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RICKYBOBBY

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    Art Prices

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    34 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    Again, no one is saying he wasn’t a capable artist.    But take Gil Kane off of SA Green Lantern and replace him with John Romita.     Does anything really change?   Heck no.   Same goes with replacing Romita on ASM with a relatively good artist - the example I used earlier was Heath.   

    Of course the artists brought a lot to the stories and of course each artist brought their unique strengths.     

    But at the end of the day Archie comics still sold whether it was Lucey, de Carlo, Bolling, whatever.    They were all capable but somewhat interchangeable because the reader just wanted to know whose plan to get Archie was going to work - Betty’s?   Or Veronica’s?  And who Spidey was going to tangle with - Doc Ock , or the Vulture?    Those of you that preferred the soap opera elements notwithstanding I suppose. ;)

    Don Rosa, who most would call the second best duck artist/writer ever, once described to me his inability to move the sales needle in these terms:    In Europe duck books sold great no matter who drew them and in the US they didn’t sell at all no matter who drew them.     So, someone with all that skill and hard work couldn’t make sell extra books.     Late 60s early 70s marvel was going to sell no matter who, within reason, drew the books.    With all due respect to Trimpe most would view him as way down the list of Marvel artists but Hulk did not get cancelled in the 70s.     Despite, ironically, being cancelled in the early 60s with Kirby at the helm

    Don't agree. Romita redefined Spider-Man and made him more acceptable to a wider audience, hence increasing sales. Saying you could have brought in anyone to do this is silly.

    With no Romita we have no Kingpin ( with no Kingpin what happens to Millers run on DD?) no Punisher and a whole wack of other characters. He designed the Wolverine as well.

    Are we saying all of that could have been easily done by, Heath? Nope. He's a good artist but don't think the vision would have been there

    There is a reason he was art director at Marvel for almost a decade.

    Art Prices

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    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    44 minutes ago, Bronty said:

    Please show me a NON ASM Romita cover that would sell for 478,000 dollars.  

    That's a top cover from Romita's ASM run. However, I can show you other Romita ASM covers that have sold for less than his non ASM covers.

    Art Prices

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    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    18 hours ago, vodou said:

    All I'm really trying to say, which is just repeating Bronty actually, is that the demand (and thus prices) are due to the character/title combination and then the relative ranking inside that by artistic run. This is proven constantly by all the non-whatever art by these artists. Sure it sells and it sells for more than nothing, but the heat is on the title and character not the artist.

    Who's paying Trimpe Hulk prices for comparable anything Trimpe non-Hulk? Nobody. Romita ASM prices for anything Romita non-ASM? Nobody. Etc etc.

    Not true. Romita could draw any cover with any popular Marvel characters and it will sell for as much as as ASM stuff.

    https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/john-romita-sr-defenders-10-cover-thor-vs-hulk-original-art-and-cover-proof-marvel-1973-/a/7137-92258.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

    And Avengers covers and Thor covers.

    Any splashes or covers Romita did for FF would go for huge money too.

    So to say Romita is ASM only is jokes. He just happen to spend a lot of time there.

    There was a reason they would bring in Romita just to do faces. His style of drawing was one of the best looking in the comic art business.

    Jack Kirby Collector - Cover Art

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    Posted · Edited by RICKYBOBBY

    Hi all,

    Was really excited about this new acquisition. Not it hand just yet but I couldn't wait to post it!

    Cover to the Jack Kirby Collector #41. Large art measuring 13 x 21- the largest image Kirby created of Black Panther. This piece hung at the Kirbys home for many years. Now it will hang in mine :)

     

    Thanks for looking!

    http://www.comicartfans.com/gallerypiece.asp?piece=1459599

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    Art Aquisition - Jack Kirby Thor

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    3 hours ago, stinkininkin said:

    I do not have examples on hand.  Generally, it seemed like Everett tried to take a bit more of an illustrative approach, adding more textures and details/hatching that weren't part of the essential raw Kirby power.  Also, stuff is a bit more angular with Everetts' inks on Kirby than I prefer.  Don't get me wrong, it's all very polished and it's easy for me to see why people like this pairing (as do I on this page in question).  Some people really like Syd Shores inks on Kirby and I can't stand it as it's too feathered and soft.  I sold my Captain America 108 cover years ago because of this (you're welcome Glen Gold!).  Having said that,  I admit that I really like Wood on Kirby from Skymasters, even though it's likewise very heavy handed and softens up Kirbys' power pencils a great deal.  In the end, it's all just personal preference.  And to repeat, this particular Kirby/Everett page is a home run!

    Scott

    I have to agree. Everett struggled with alcoholism so a lot of the time he was hastily going through the inking to meet deadlines. Especially when drawing over Kirbys layouts on TTA - the art just didn't stand out. But for whatever reason on their short stint on Thor 168-175 they created some brilliant looking art. Not sure if they worked more closely together during this time but whatever they were doing - it was honestly brilliant. Almost every page of Thor 171 is a masterpiece.