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On 2/14/2022 at 1:40 AM, lou_fine said:

So it's all about the back covers here and not so much about the classic Flessel front cover images. 

Well, how utterly devious and definitely food for thought here.    

I love Flessel myself, but you are kidding yourself if you don't think the back cover to a Tec 27 is extremely valuable.

On 2/13/2022 at 8:08 PM, RareHighGrade said:

The big winners in today's auction were Adventures #33 and #38.  Although they are both restored, they went for, respectively, 9x and 11x unrestored Guide prices.  What the . . .??   

Do they have the same back covers at Action 7 and Detective 27?

On 1/23/2022 at 12:45 AM, Aman619 said:

I seem to recall Four Color Comics selling the pay copy and the Motion Pictures Funnies copy to Geppi...  Anyone else?

Yes, and then it passed in the above-mentioned Sotheby's auction. And people may argue whether the Marvel 1 is nicer than the Church, Denver, WC, or some other high grade copy, but there is no question the MPFW is much, much better than the next best surviving copy.

On 1/21/2022 at 9:01 PM, tth2 said:

More like "You scratch my back, I'll scratch yours".

I remember when the owner of Mastronet auctions was buying comics. He was a nice guy but forgetful (had a pretty Detective #27 that he couldn't remember where it was).

Wonder whatever happened to him...

9.2 is still too low on the Pay Copy compared to the other high grade Marvel #1s, but I'm glad it was regraded to separate itself from the other two regrades.

On 1/15/2022 at 3:20 AM, tth2 said:

I think what I'm hearing from those in the know is "historical significance" means "historical significance to Millennial crypto guys".

And they all think Superman is lame. 

Yes, but they love the Joker.

So the Batman #1 page is probably the one that would/could pass the record.

On 1/14/2022 at 3:49 AM, tth2 said:

Logically, the following should be more valuable, although it's still hard for me to believe that they would be:

1.  AF 15--virtually every page from the Spidey story, but at a minimum the opening splash, panel with 1st Spidey in costume, page where Spidey lets the burglar get away, page where he realizes the person who killed Uncle Ben is the burglar)...

Are the single known pages from Batman #1 and Marvel Comics #1 not good enough to even get mentioned anymore?

The Batman page even has the Joker card (and Joker) in it, and now that Subby will be joining the MCU...

On 1/14/2022 at 2:02 PM, Professor K said:

Yes right, quite a few restored were sold the past few years. So was the last Blue Label Action 1 sold in public the 8.5 in 2018? 

If by public you aren't counting the blue 3.0 that ComicConnect auctioned last month for $1.6 million (which was my basis for the comparison to the Tec27), or the resale of the 8.5 last April, then yes.

On 1/13/2022 at 8:22 PM, Primetime said:

The Marvel 1 in 4.5 at $80k a point was strong.  

Yep, trying to close the gap with Batman #1 and equal/better than Cap 1 maybe.

On 1/13/2022 at 8:25 PM, Professor K said:

But the last Action 1 Blue was a few years ago.

If you don't count the two high profile copies that sold in the last 12 months, sure.

On 1/13/2022 at 6:14 PM, szav said:

Can’t disregard PQ just because it’s a big book can we?  Tan pages, not just light tan.  It looked more like a 3.0/3.5 than a 4.5 to me anyway.

Grader Notes

HEAVY RUST TO BOTTOM staple
flexible pgs/no corner chiping whole book
light, multiple creases don'tbreak color along full left of spine
moderate staple recessed bottom of staple
small scuff top of back cover breaks color
small, multiple stain full right of whole book
staple detached bottom of spine

The “heavy rust” was already capitalized in the notes… I didn’t add that for emphasis.

Action 1 was Cream, so I assume it was discounted also, right?

Plus it had some of the same grader's notes including: Left Bottom Back Cover Chews, Left Center Back Cover Piece Out,  Staple Multiple Rusted, Staple Multiple Tear, Top Spine Large Spine Split, and
Top Staple Cover Detached.

On 1/13/2022 at 2:57 PM, Chicago Boy said:

I was disappointed in the TEc 27 sale actually.  Besides the PQ. very nice looking book.

Same.

After the $1.6 million sale of the 3.0 Action 1, how could a 4.5 Tec 27 not reach that same number?  I guess this will at least temporarily silence all the people who constantly claim that Tec27 is closing the gap on Action1

On 1/8/2022 at 6:17 PM, tth2 said:

Verzyl still has the best Timely collection some years after his death.

A Verzyl might, but not John. And let's see what happens when 30 years is up.

Pretty sure another John, Teftteller, has the best collection of blues 78s. Many not even known when Hite was alive and collecting. The internet has enabled some amazing discoveries to be found.

On 1/8/2022 at 12:44 PM, Robot Man said:

Not sure. But these people make him (and most of us) look like rookies.

Crumb and Bob Hite of the band Canned Heat, have probably the biggest known collections of old 78’s that I have heard of.

How big a collection can Hite still have 30 years after his death?

On 1/4/2022 at 8:02 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:

There have been a lot of Bat 1 pages showing up on the market lately, and the prices have jumped.  Since there are are 2 Joker stories, there’s a total of 14 Joker pages to every Bat 1.  Up until the last few months, most of the Joker pages could be had for less than a thousand bucks. Now all of a sudden they are bringing $3k-$5k.

there are some who speculate that the price of a page will encourage people to cut up their Bat 1s and sell the pages individually. To them I say “have you seen the prices Bat 1s are now bringing?”      $240k for a 2.0!!!

with only 130 copies on the census, demand for a full book will not motivate sellers to piece their books out.

You are looking at the wrong census numbers. You need to focus on the 141 restored copies. Most restoration is done to the cover of the books, and what little might be done to a page can easily be pulled off when you are separating pages. Some people keep insisting that low-grade restored Bat 1s are $50K or less, and that is where I think the motivation is to pull them apart and piece them out.

Really, a complete restored Bat 1 should be close to 100K now (as long as ok eye appeal and non-brittle pages)

N/a

Is it just me, or is this a scary picture?

On 12/18/2021 at 8:10 AM, Sarg said:

You don't see pre-1940 Church books posted very often, except the DCs that RareHighGrade has. Any theory as to why that is?

If you remove DC from the mix, there aren't a lot of pre-1940s comics period (mostly Dells). Famous Funnies, Super, some Features, King, etc.  of the few hundred total books that qualify they turn up in about the same frequency as any other specific items from an 18,000 book collection.

On 12/18/2021 at 6:32 PM, sfcityduck said:

Supposedly the best ungraded copy is the Larson - anecdotally an 8.0. 

Pretty sure that's not ungraded any longer.

Well it did say "For over" $4.5 million, and certainly the Church would hit the over. $15 million, $20 million, whatever, all of those numbers are over $4.5

Maybe that's why it's a sample copy

On 12/6/2021 at 1:05 AM, Daveb25 said:

Page 7 and page 8 recently went for over $3k on eBay too… hopefully this doesn’t spur people to start breaking up their copies. 

Page 28 sold for over $8,000

I said a few months back, that the break-up value was getting too high and that restored copies were the super bargains. realistically, the page by page value is somewhere in the $50-60,000 range if you pull apart the book, possibly more depending on how much work was done to the cover.

On 12/1/2021 at 11:55 PM, lou_fine said:

Speaking about Bonanza, rather kind of shocked that after some 20+ plus years of certification and the seemingly pervasiness when it comes to Dell File Copies, that the highest graded copy for Four Color 1110 or the first Bonanza would only be 2 CGC 9.0 graded copies, with both of these copies being graded more than 10 years ago:  

 

Especially since Bonanza was such a long running and popular TV western which stil shows up on reruns, that you figure collectors would have latched onto this book and kept it in nice condition right from the get go.  After seeing how much the more readily available Rawhide books have gone for in terms of thousands of dollars, makes me kind of wonder what a HG copy of Bonanza 1 would be able to fetch in today's hyper inflated marketplace.  

It is strange that a 9.0 is the highest, and I agree that Bonanza was huge at the time, but Rawhide is an earlier series and Eastwood is a much bigger global icon that Landon or Greene, so I don't think it would be that close dollar-wise.

And there we go - $2.041million