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The final look of the ears would depend upon the inker. As this article shows (http://dccomicsartists.com/batman/Sprang.htm) one could determine whether Richard Sprang's Batman art was inked by Shelly Moldoff or Charles Paris, based on the look of Robin's ears.

Obviously, HA is in no position to fight with a consignor who has likely provided them with much product for profit. If they even allowed that the piece "might not" be Baker would limit the final sale price to probably a tenth of what they hope to get if it were a real Baker piece. I can find no example of authentic Baker art where the female's hair line is in the middle of her forehead. If someone else can, show me.

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OAFCON 2017 was a blast!

Thanks for sharing. Both scream, "BAKER!"

Had Matt Baker drawn the HA piece, the face would look like the 1st example here. For one thing, Baker consistently gave Flamingo more forehead.

It's hard to put a finger on exactly what the differences are, but Baker's faces are more expressive and his figures are more fluid.

Agreed. That ain't Baker.

I dropped by just in time.

Attended OAFCON earlier today (Saturday 10/21/17) and was thrilled to once again experience a REAL comic book convention. Bart and the crew outdid themselves this year, with what appears to be double the floor space of the past few events. Many of the top dealers from Oklahoma are there, along with a variety of names from across the country. All comic book eras are well represented. You'll also find original art, Big Little Books, pulps, premiums and more. The selection is mind boggling, and the room is full of some of America's top longtime collectors, happily discussing their passion. Admission this year is FREE, in celebration of the Oklahoma Alliance of Fandom's 50th anniversary. If you are tired of the "celebrity & costume" events with hardly any comics and are anywhere within driving distance of Norman OK, get to OAFCON Sunday (10/22) from 10 am to 6 pm. http://oafcon2017.blogspot.com/

at 50% off.

at 50% off!

at 25% off.

at 25% off.

My 2 cents: It doesn't look like Baker to me, and both Overstreet and The Art of Glamour don't designate it as Baker.

There's a button on the listing page to "Report item". I've successfully used it against bad actors. It's a 1-sale seller with only 1 piece of feedback, from a 1-time buyer. You have proof it's a scam; you can end it.

I can testify that, in the late 1960's and early 1970's (and perhaps before), boner meant something other than an error.

I'm not sure what it has to do with my original comment that it's hard for Overstreet to accurately list Baker prices...but the answer to your question is no and it's not really a reverse of the scenario I'm talking about. I'm referring to the distortion of pricing that occurs when people who have no interest in a particular item interject themselves into an auction only so they can turn around immediately and jack the prices up on true fans who they just outbid. To put it another way: Imagine you and I were at an in-person live comic book auction, and we were both rabid and ready to go to the limit for a 9.2 copy of Giant Comics Editions #12. (Dream big!) Someone on the sidelines hears us talking and realizes that you and I don't care what it costs to land the book. That person came to bid on some Superman comics, but now they smell money and decide to outbid both of us on the GCE 12, and they have the finances to outlast both of us. After the end of the auction, as I'm walking to my car, the winning bidder runs up to me in the parking lot and offers me the book for $1500 more than he just paid. Maybe some people would be good with that. I would not. And again, back to the subject that started this Baker thread sidebar: Likely being the only sale that year (or ever of course) for GCE 12 in such high grade, how should Overstreet list that issue & grade in the guide? The price at which you or I would have outlasted the other? The price the flipper outbid us to? Or the price after his mark-up? According to GoCollect, 78 9.8 copies of Amazing Spider-Man #300 have sold on eBay in the past 12 months. With that sales volume, even after some dealer hanky-panky, a reliable average price can be determined. Some of these Baker books, however, might sell once every 2 years or more, making it very hard to arrive at a reliable price for the guide. Between that and people who are manipulating the system at times, we may never see accurate Baker pricing in Overstreet.

I'm certainly not attributing high prices to a single source. No way. In general, many of us who are COLLECTING Baker are in competition and driving up the prices. And it's true that certain Baker books are always going to go for big bucks, like Cinderella Love #25, Giant Comics Editions #12, etc. May the best collector win, regardless of final price. If you have more money or just want to spend more on a particular issue than I do, no problem! (I have a habit of buying expensive electric guitars, too, so sometimes I'm thinking, "Do I really want that comic that bad, or would I rather save for another Les Paul?") However, in some cases people who are NOT BAKER COLLECTORS are butting into auctions, bidding aggressively to win...and then turning right around and selling for a profit to real Baker collectors who they just outbid on the auctions. How it works: All but 2 bidders fall out at around $350. The buying-only-to-resell bidder drives the book to $650, preventing the other bidder from filling the hole in their collection. If the non-collector were not ramping up the bid, the other bidder could have landed the book for a little over $350. Next, the auction winner turns right around and takes the book that he didn't love and desire like we do and puts it up for sale for $775, thus adding over $400 to the price of a book that would have sold for much less without the involvement of that one person. My daddy told me long ago not to expect a "fair" world, but Baker books cost enough as it is without non-fans getting in the middle and jacking up prices even higher. Seems kind of predatory and unfair. AND how is Overstreet supposed to price that issue in the guide? Is it worth $350 (the price most were willing to pay), $650 (the price the non-Baker-collector drove the price to) or $775 (the price the non-Baker-collector decided they want for it)?

It'll be hard for the guide to nail down pricing for Baker books anytime in the near future. A few rabid flush-with-cash bidders have been driving high prices lately, but if you look at bid histories on eBay, most bidders drop out way below the top bidders, often of which there are only 2. Once those few people fill their collections, continued high pricing will depend on more rabid rich bidders entering the fray. Otherwise, things will die down a bit and mid-range bidders will start to win some books. And here's something that distorts Baker books pricing to the high side: Certain people are driving bids ridiculously high on eBay...after which they turn around and try to sell their win at an even higher price in other venues. In this situation, one person is setting a new selling record as they buy...and another when they sell. In the absence of that single person, certain Baker books wouldn't be selling for such astronomical prices.