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Ah, I misread this...he already had a Bats 189 with resto....

What you would be saying would be correct if I was getting the CT removed.

The Batman 189 was not a better buy, it's just a more expensive mistake. A 7.0 is not high grade, it's the high end of mid grade and its restored to boot. That book is not rare or hard to find, and just because someone else is trying to get more from their copy than it's worth doesn't mean that anyone else is dumb enough to overpay for your copy. Once you factor in shipping costs, you'll be lucky to break even on that book, even if you place zero value on your time.

 

If Gabe buys the Bats 189, he stands to lose about $200-$350.

 

The books is a /would get a cgc 8.5 IMO as is, PLOD.

 

The resto is listed as " light color touch".

 

It will cost what...$40 to have the CT removed.I don't see any point in pressing it, looks like it won't het a bump from dry cleaning/pressing.More than likely it has already been DCP'd-it looks very vlean and I'd say it's already been DCP'd.

 

So, let's put CT removal, shipping to/from CGC and slabbing costs at $100.

 

With minor CT, post removal...expect anywhere from a 7.0 to an 8.0, depends on how "minor" the CT is.

 

GPA for blue is $359 in 8.0, $315 at 7.5 and $270 in 7.0.

 

Best case scenario, it is a tiny, single spot of CT and the book subsequently gets an 8.0....last sale at $359 in 8.0 , so ....he gets $359 or so.The book isn't tied into any upcoming movies, no reason to think it will trend upwards or sell quickly at $359.

 

Call it $300, after fees.

 

At the best case scenario, he loses $200, that is if it gets an 8.0.

 

With CT on a datk cover, after it is scsped off, if there is more than a tiny smidge, it stands out like Hell.

 

2 tiny s apes, it's a 7.0 maybe 7.5.

 

It could have as much as 2-3 larger scrapes after the CT is removed..

could come back as low as a 6.0.

 

This is a prime reason how/why if you dot know how to grade, you should not try to be a flipper/dealer.

 

And another reason why any dealer should know how to detect resto, be capable of removing CT, and be capable of dry cleaning& pressing books.A dealer should also have a gradp on the nature of the comic market.

 

Gabe is at a loss on all of the qualities needed to buy/sell books.

I'm not as a loss I don't know why you keep counting it as such. You also seem to think that every dealer should know how to detect resto,be able to remove it and be capable of dry pressing and cleaning books. So tell apart from those select few tell me which dealers can do that. No I'm not thinking of removing the color touch either.

I'm not making fun.

I, like most others, just cannot comprehend how, after being given so much advice, you still do the total opposite and are certain you are right, and we are wrong.

 

The "pink variant", a crappy condition, small time key at best is the perfect example.

The problem that you have, and I mean this with honesty, not spite, is that you quite simply are just too damn lazy to do the work required.

 

How many op-shpos have you been to this month?

Deceased estate sales?

Garage sales?

Church fetes?

Do you run a wanted to buy ad?

Have you written up a small ad on Microsoft word, copied it x 500 and dropped it into your neighbours post boxes?

All the above cost cents, but can lead you to a big old box of goodies.

 

Doesn't matter who tells you how to get better - you just keep on keepin on, with the same old results.

 

You fluked on with the Hulk #180, then blew every single cent of profit with 2 bad buys.

 

You are still $1100 back in the hole, but you just will not see it.

 

I'm off to work (full-time) and I'm looking at a collection after work. Same as last weekend.

You?

PS4 and a doobie?

 

The problem is with you, and you willfully decide to keep it that way.

 

And that's the truth wether you like it or not.

I've been to the church sales twice this week, thrift shops three times and comic book shops 5 times this weeks so far at one. I already told people at the church sales to contact me if they find any comics and I don't trust the thrift shops to do that. I put up ads on facebook groups that are local

People rips flyers off where you put them I don't know if it's out of anger or not.

It seems like your whole business model is based on finding a bigger sucker than yourself.

 

 

This is not a good business model.

 

That's not my business model. My business model is to buy comics and sell for a profit. But there are times where I overprice them to see if there will be any bites or to make up for a mistake of mine or test out the market if data is old.

 

You may not believe it's your business model, but that's what it boils down to.

 

 

You're currently in the hole over $1000 after 2 1/2 years using your current business model. You make 1 good deal and then make 3 poor deals.

 

 

Whatever you believe to be your current business model is not working well.

 

You are not going to corner the market in written on / restored krap that nobody wants.

 

You are a sellers dream in that you buy junk at GPA highs that no one else will buy.

 

You're correct over the past 2 1/2 years I've been nothing but impulsive and making bad choices that's not to say I don't make any but they're becoming less frequent.

 

you believe that I'm making a mistake with the bat 189 and the asm 101 and I don't. Once I'll sell them I'll bring them here and you know I have nothing to hide.

 

The mistakes are not less frequent. Out of your last 4 deals, only 1 has been good and the other 3 are not, everyone in this thread knows this except you.

 

 

Do you remember how fervently you defended your "non emotional" decision to buy the DV3 9.8? How we were all wrong and you ( and your Facebook friend ) were right?

 

Why is this any different?

 

Well for one it wasn't a emotional or impulsive buy I did my research on it. The asm 101 was based on my incorrect knowledge of what grade it should be however I know that by waiting I will make my money and this was a cheap buy. The bat 189 is the same thing except much better because it's a high grade key, silver age and sought after.

 

Written on krap and restored krap is still krap. These are deals that if you make any money off of them it will be minimal at best and the turnaround will not be quick.

 

Your research was bad, everyone knows this but you.

 

Just curious...would rather that we just shut up and read your journal?

 

I assume that you would want advice and feedback, but it never seems to have any effect.

 

So would you prefer that we just observe your journey in the world of comic flipping and not participate?

 

I want advice and feedback but I don't like every-time I see something differently I get chewed out for it. When I'm overpaying for something then yes but when I see potential you guys don't.

 

I did my research and I know it's not exactly what you would base it on but I'm getting a feel for the market and looking on ebay

 

For example The hulk 180 5.0 I priced it fairly as was the advice by a few boardies so we'll see how quickly or not it will sell.

 

 

So case in point you guys don't give the chances to comics I do yes most blow up in my face but in my eyes I only overpaid for the dv 3 and asm 129 recently.

 

Have you ever seen the TV show Fantasy Island or played the game Candy Land?

No but I loved playing monopoly

 

This sums this thread up.

Even the poor baby seal has more chance of making money out of selling comics.

In the last week alone there have been 20 books on the boards you could have made a $10 - $20 profit on.

But, like the seal, you continue to hope for the best.

 

 

 

 

PS: I hope the guy with the club meets Lucille.....

Well then I missed out. Make fun if you want but I'll keep working at this.

Gabe can you take this thread to a live podcast? I mean this is just fascinating. You could have people call you direct on a 900 number and the can give you good advice and then you go do what you want, mess up and take another 900 call and get that same advice again from another and you could be raking in sick Bank from the 900 line and the pod cast no doubt will be viral. Advertisers like State Farm would be advertising during your breaks.

 

Haha there's no point of turning this into a podcast and I have no need for that.

Please consider the ultimate value that you possess. It's not you savy comic buying/flipping that makes this thread pop. It's you. This is great entertainment and you are a natural. You work this crowd better than anyone. This has to be shared more widespread than these boards. You could be a millionaire in less than a year. And that's on just advertisers. You could have celebrity guests appear too. Please consider

I wouldn't even know how to start something like that.

It seems like your whole business model is based on finding a bigger sucker than yourself.

 

 

This is not a good business model.

 

That's not my business model. My business model is to buy comics and sell for a profit. But there are times where I overprice them to see if there will be any bites or to make up for a mistake of mine or test out the market if data is old.

 

You may not believe it's your business model, but that's what it boils down to.

 

 

You're currently in the hole over $1000 after 2 1/2 years using your current business model. You make 1 good deal and then make 3 poor deals.

 

 

Whatever you believe to be your current business model is not working well.

 

You are not going to corner the market in written on / restored krap that nobody wants.

 

You are a sellers dream in that you buy junk at GPA highs that no one else will buy.

 

You're correct over the past 2 1/2 years I've been nothing but impulsive and making bad choices that's not to say I don't make any but they're becoming less frequent.

 

you believe that I'm making a mistake with the bat 189 and the asm 101 and I don't. Once I'll sell them I'll bring them here and you know I have nothing to hide.

 

The mistakes are not less frequent. Out of your last 4 deals, only 1 has been good and the other 3 are not, everyone in this thread knows this except you.

 

 

Do you remember how fervently you defended your "non emotional" decision to buy the DV3 9.8? How we were all wrong and you ( and your Facebook friend ) were right?

 

Why is this any different?

 

Well for one it wasn't a emotional or impulsive buy I did my research on it. The asm 101 was based on my incorrect knowledge of what grade it should be however I know that by waiting I will make my money and this was a cheap buy. The bat 189 is the same thing except much better because it's a high grade key, silver age and sought after.

 

Written on krap and restored krap is still krap. These are deals that if you make any money off of them it will be minimal at best and the turnaround will not be quick.

 

Your research was bad, everyone knows this but you.

 

Just curious...would rather that we just shut up and read your journal?

 

I assume that you would want advice and feedback, but it never seems to have any effect.

 

So would you prefer that we just observe your journey in the world of comic flipping and not participate?

I want advice and feedback but I don't like every-time I see something differently I get chewed out for it. When I'm overpaying for something then yes but when I see potential you guys don't.

I did my research and I know it's not exactly what you would base it on but I'm getting a feel for the market and looking on ebay

For example The hulk 180 5.0 I priced it fairly as was the advice by a few boardies so we'll see how quickly or not it will sell.

So case in point you guys don't give the chances to comics I do yes most blow up in my face but in my eyes I only overpaid for the dv 3 and asm 129 recently.

Gabe can you take this thread to a live podcast? I mean this is just fascinating. You could have people call you direct on a 900 number and the can give you good advice and then you go do what you want, mess up and take another 900 call and get that same advice again from another and you could be raking in sick Bank from the 900 line and the pod cast no doubt will be viral. Advertisers like State Farm would be advertising during your breaks.

Haha there's no point of turning this into a podcast and I have no need for that.

It seems like your whole business model is based on finding a bigger sucker than yourself.

 

 

This is not a good business model.

 

That's not my business model. My business model is to buy comics and sell for a profit. But there are times where I overprice them to see if there will be any bites or to make up for a mistake of mine or test out the market if data is old.

 

You may not believe it's your business model, but that's what it boils down to.

 

 

You're currently in the hole over $1000 after 2 1/2 years using your current business model. You make 1 good deal and then make 3 poor deals.

 

 

Whatever you believe to be your current business model is not working well.

 

You are not going to corner the market in written on / restored krap that nobody wants.

 

You are a sellers dream in that you buy junk at GPA highs that no one else will buy.

 

You're correct over the past 2 1/2 years I've been nothing but impulsive and making bad choices that's not to say I don't make any but they're becoming less frequent.

 

you believe that I'm making a mistake with the bat 189 and the asm 101 and I don't. Once I'll sell them I'll bring them here and you know I have nothing to hide.

 

The mistakes are not less frequent. Out of your last 4 deals, only 1 has been good and the other 3 are not, everyone in this thread knows this except you.

 

 

Do you remember how fervently you defended your "non emotional" decision to buy the DV3 9.8? How we were all wrong and you ( and your Facebook friend ) were right?

 

Why is this any different?

Well for one it wasn't a emotional or impulsive buy I did my research on it. The asm 101 was based on my incorrect knowledge of what grade it should be however I know that by waiting I will make my money and this was a cheap buy. The bat 189 is the same thing except much better because it's a high grade key, silver age and sought after.

Gabe - you are stuck gambling at high odds with minimal pay offs. There are risks everywhere but flipping books in todays market should be a minimal risk situation but you keep making it difficult. Glutton for punishment I guess.

Yes I don't buy the easiest books to flip and how I see it the bat 189 will be easier to sell then the asm 101. I do buy cheap comics and rare occasions though if I come across them.

It seems like your whole business model is based on finding a bigger sucker than yourself.

 

 

This is not a good business model.

 

That's not my business model. My business model is to buy comics and sell for a profit. But there are times where I overprice them to see if there will be any bites or to make up for a mistake of mine or test out the market if data is old.

 

You may not believe it's your business model, but that's what it boils down to.

 

 

You're currently in the hole over $1000 after 2 1/2 years using your current business model. You make 1 good deal and then make 3 poor deals.

 

 

Whatever you believe to be your current business model is not working well.

 

You are not going to corner the market in written on / restored krap that nobody wants.

 

You are a sellers dream in that you buy junk at GPA highs that no one else will buy.

You're correct over the past 2 1/2 years I've been nothing but impulsive and making bad choices that's not to say I don't make any but they're becoming less frequent.

you believe that I'm making a mistake with the bat 189 and the asm 101 and I don't. Once I'll sell them I'll bring them here and you know I have nothing to hide.

 

That level of thinking is flawed as well who think their gonna get a 8.5/9.0 from a comic that's graded a 7.5.

 

Is that different than buying a 2.0 and thinking you'll get a 4.5 out of it?

That was my mistake basing it on what I thought I knew not because of someone's reputation so yes it's different

It seems like your whole business model is based on finding a bigger sucker than yourself.

 

 

This is not a good business model.

That's not my business model. My business model is to buy comics and sell for a profit. But there are times where I overprice them to see if there will be any bites or to make up for a mistake of mine or test out the market if data is old.

Here's a listing I want to bring your attention to

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-1940-189-VF-7-5-RESTORED-/131952560985?hash=item1eb8fc4b59:g:WmQAAOSw4shX6oi4

 

It's a 7.5 raw restored for 410 BIN

 

 

Now if I put up my copy that's 7.0 R that's already graded for 275 OBO what do you think has a better chance of selling?

 

This is like the asm 7 example except now I have the advantage

 

sigh, you really have no clue.

 

Did you read the auction text? Look closely at the scan? Realize who the seller is?

 

It's being offered by mycomicshop. They're known for under grading and realize extraordinary results on many of their auctions - look at the scan, it's a nice looking book. It's also a consignment item where the price is set by the consignee. There's no guarantee it will sell for it's asking price

 

You should be basing your likely return on sold items, sold by sellers with reputations more similar to yours.

 

 

I know who they are and their reputation To me it doesn't matter who they are I want comparable listings not going by reputation if that were true I wouldn't get very far.

 

You're comparison is flawed. Bidders are gonna assume this book is an 8.5 to 9.0 because of the seller's reputation and you're not factoring that into your 'analysis'. Also, the price is set by the consignee and is unlikely to sell at that price.

 

You should base your comparisons on sold books, sold by sellers with reputations similar to yours.

 

I wouldn't get very far.

That's the point. You're not getting far, you're losing money and you'll continue to lose money.

That level of thinking is flawed as well who think their gonna get a 8.5/9.0 from a comic that's graded a 7.5. Also what good will comparing myself to others like me? I compare to this that have similar comics to mine in terms of grade and value.

Well since most of you are so adamant about it

 

These are the two books that I can prove I can sell for a profit despite your thinking and yes it's a bold statement.

 

ASM 101

BAT 189 CGC 7.0 R C1

 

No emotion there, just pure logic.

 

 

I thought you agreed you would stop buying these stupid books?

 

You're so quick to spend energy on defending these bad decisions.

 

You would be better served to spend that same energy on market research.

 

Why spend $100+ to "maybe" make $50? Why not spend $20-$50 to make $150-$200? It can be done, I know people who do this regularly.

 

That wasn't a stupid purchase and I even showed my work. I'm not opposed to buying smaller books if they can make me a profit.

 

Profit margins shouldn't get smaller on smaller books, they should get larger. You should buy $10 to sell them for $20-30, not $108 restored books to sell them for $135.

 

I seriously don't know why I'm bothering. You're just going to do whatever you're going to do, obviously.

 

I see what you mean and I will be aiming to sell the bat 189 for 200- 225 if I can manage it.

 

 

You'll be sitting on this book for years to hit that price.

Maybe 2-4 months max

Gabe, if you need a book how to grade, it's time to move on to something else. Focus instead on something you are good at.

 

Jim

I don't need it every time but if I'm not sure about it I check it.

 

(I apparently have still not figured out how to post youtube videos)

 

You need to try harder and not make excuses.

 

Don't let your emotions be a reason for not figuring out how to post Youtube videos.

 

Study the methods others have used to successfully post YouTube videos.

 

Have you met with a guidance counselor who will aide you learning how to post YouTube videos?

 

That wasn't my video though.

Well since most of you are so adamant about it

 

These are the two books that I can prove I can sell for a profit despite your thinking and yes it's a bold statement.

 

ASM 101

BAT 189 CGC 7.0 R C1

 

No emotion there, just pure logic.

 

 

I thought you agreed you would stop buying these stupid books?

 

You're so quick to spend energy on defending these bad decisions.

 

You would be better served to spend that same energy on market research.

 

Why spend $100+ to "maybe" make $50? Why not spend $20-$50 to make $150-$200? It can be done, I know people who do this regularly.

 

That wasn't a stupid purchase and I even showed my work. I'm not opposed to buying smaller books if they can make me a profit.

 

Profit margins shouldn't get smaller on smaller books, they should get larger. You should buy $10 to sell them for $20-30, not $108 restored books to sell them for $135.

 

I seriously don't know why I'm bothering. You're just going to do whatever you're going to do, obviously.

 

I see what you mean and I will be aiming to sell the bat 189 for 200- 225 if I can manage it.

 

 

Hope is not a strategy.

 

It is and it will be pretty successful imo and of course I will be happy to share results.

 

I honestly try to give you the benefit of the doubt, but what you just said...

 

 

+1000

My strategy is simple

1) Make it cheaper by comparison to others and add BIN and OBO to further entice people

May not make sense to you but it does for me.

Here's a listing I want to bring your attention to

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-1940-189-VF-7-5-RESTORED-/131952560985?hash=item1eb8fc4b59:g:WmQAAOSw4shX6oi4

 

It's a 7.5 raw restored for 410 BIN

 

 

Now if I put up my copy that's 7.0 R that's already graded for 275 OBO what do you think has a better chance of selling?

 

This is like the asm 7 example except now I have the advantage

 

Please write this down: Asking prices are not market prices. If they were, the book would have sold by now.

 

I should have been clearer. With my comic compared to this one regardless of what the fmv is for this comic what do you think will be sold faster? My copy of the one by MCS?

 

Why do you ask questions when you will ultimately use mental gymnastics to produce the answers you want?

 

I'm so out this time. I'm not even going to make the mistake of reading this exercise in futility anymore. I think I can read without getting involved, but it is just too difficult not to comment when you continue to do the same stupid things over and over despite your promises to stop doing the same things over and over.

 

Seriously. Out.

Mental gymnastics? I asked you questions that I have the answers for but thanks.

Here's a listing I want to bring your attention to

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-1940-189-VF-7-5-RESTORED-/131952560985?hash=item1eb8fc4b59:g:WmQAAOSw4shX6oi4

 

It's a 7.5 raw restored for 410 BIN

 

 

Now if I put up my copy that's 7.0 R that's already graded for 275 OBO what do you think has a better chance of selling?

 

This is like the asm 7 example except now I have the advantage

 

sigh, you really have no clue.

 

Did you read the auction text? Look closely at the scan? Realize who the seller is?

 

It's being offered by mycomicshop. They're known for under grading and realize extraordinary results on many of their auctions - look at the scan, it's a nice looking book. It's also a consignment item where the price is set by the consignee. There's no guarantee it will sell for it's asking price

 

You should be basing your likely return on sold items, sold by sellers with reputations more similar to yours.

 

I know who they are and their reputation To me it doesn't matter who they are I want comparable listings not going by reputation if that were true I wouldn't get very far.

Here's a listing I want to bring your attention to

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-1940-189-VF-7-5-RESTORED-/131952560985?hash=item1eb8fc4b59:g:WmQAAOSw4shX6oi4

 

It's a 7.5 raw restored for 410 BIN

 

 

Now if I put up my copy that's 7.0 R that's already graded for 275 OBO what do you think has a better chance of selling?

 

This is like the asm 7 example except now I have the advantage

 

 

No way does your book some close to selling for that much.

 

Basing your sales data on the ridiculous consignment prices that people ask for when they cosign through MCS is not a wise move. FYI

My point isn't to sell it for that amount, it's to make more people see my copy as the better and more affordable choice when you compare the two.

Here's a listing I want to bring your attention to

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-1940-189-VF-7-5-RESTORED-/131952560985?hash=item1eb8fc4b59:g:WmQAAOSw4shX6oi4

 

It's a 7.5 raw restored for 410 BIN

 

 

Now if I put up my copy that's 7.0 R that's already graded for 275 OBO what do you think has a better chance of selling?

 

This is like the asm 7 example except now I have the advantage

 

Please write this down: Asking prices are not market prices. If they were, the book would have sold by now.

I should have been clearer. With my comic compared to this one regardless of what the fmv is for this comic what do you think will be sold faster? My copy of the one by MCS?

Well since most of you are so adamant about it

 

These are the two books that I can prove I can sell for a profit despite your thinking and yes it's a bold statement.

 

ASM 101

BAT 189 CGC 7.0 R C1

 

No emotion there, just pure logic.

 

 

I thought you agreed you would stop buying these stupid books?

 

You're so quick to spend energy on defending these bad decisions.

 

You would be better served to spend that same energy on market research.

 

Why spend $100+ to "maybe" make $50? Why not spend $20-$50 to make $150-$200? It can be done, I know people who do this regularly.

 

That wasn't a stupid purchase and I even showed my work. I'm not opposed to buying smaller books if they can make me a profit.

 

Profit margins shouldn't get smaller on smaller books, they should get larger. You should buy $10 to sell them for $20-30, not $108 restored books to sell them for $135.

 

I seriously don't know why I'm bothering. You're just going to do whatever you're going to do, obviously.

 

I see what you mean and I will be aiming to sell the bat 189 for 200- 225 if I can manage it.

 

 

Hope is not a strategy.

It is and it will be pretty successful imo and of course I will be happy to share results.

Here's a listing I want to bring your attention to

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Batman-1940-189-VF-7-5-RESTORED-/131952560985?hash=item1eb8fc4b59:g:WmQAAOSw4shX6oi4

It's a 7.5 raw restored for 410 BIN

Now if I put up my copy that's 7.0 R that's already graded for 275 OBO what do you think has a better chance of selling?

This is like the asm 7 example except now I have the advantage

Well since most of you are so adamant about it

 

These are the two books that I can prove I can sell for a profit despite your thinking and yes it's a bold statement.

 

ASM 101

BAT 189 CGC 7.0 R C1

 

No emotion there, just pure logic.

 

 

I thought you agreed you would stop buying these stupid books?

 

You're so quick to spend energy on defending these bad decisions.

 

You would be better served to spend that same energy on market research.

 

Why spend $100+ to "maybe" make $50? Why not spend $20-$50 to make $150-$200? It can be done, I know people who do this regularly.

 

That wasn't a stupid purchase and I even showed my work. I'm not opposed to buying smaller books if they can make me a profit.

 

Have you ever seen the movie Groundhog Day?

Never heard of it.