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Daredevil #158 and #168 were $25 books shortly after they came out. ;-p

Someone needs their meds again. Medic!

I edited my post the 1st time it happened and it still stayed red until it was approved. Once it's flagged it needs to be released, I think. Yep. Same thing happened to me. Apparently, any mention of the other guys' acronym causes the post to be hidden until a moderator can look at it. As you note, even editing out the acronym doesn't cause it to automatically go through. My post was an observation that the other board is too disorganized for me to spend time there. Too bad CGC decided they to take their "no mention of the other company" this far. It is unfortunate and unprofessional. And it will likely have the opposite effect that it was intended to have. I assume someone in higher management made the call.

Well, so far I only have my two posts with the word C8C$ that went red and hidden. Could you see your post right away after submitting it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above was what I posted (obviously with some adjustments so that you guys can get the gist of my post).

I just realized when I replied to Transplant that I used the forbidden word and now it's in red and Hidden. Yes, @Transplant it seems like that is the word that shall not be spoken unless a moderator allows it.

Well, so far I only have my two posts with the word CBCS that went red and hidden. Could you see your post right away after submitting it?

You can't beat Heritage for online scan database. Literally 10,000's of books in all grades going back 15 years and all in high resolution.

I edited my post the 1st time it happened and it still stayed red until it was approved. Once it's flagged it needs to be released, I think.

I like mine. Anyone else's, not so much.

By the time you looked it was approved and now appears normally to me as well. But it was Hidden and in red when I first submitted it.

It always does. I argued this years ago. We saw 3 Pedigree collections appear just after the collapse of the US stock markets in 2008.

I'm not sure how it works. For me, it was just a guess that it was the word C$$S And it is. I typed in the word and my post above is in RED and hidden. Does anyone else see it?

I'm not sure how it works. For me, it was just a guess that it was the word CBCS

So the new chat forum software seems to have a new censorship feature. A boardie complained how his post had to be approved by the moderators and nobody could see it. I took a look at the post (which just appeared finally today after being approved Iguess) and noticed that the acronym C@C$ was in there (you guys know what I'm talking about - I don't want to type it all out). So I typed in a reply using the same word, and BOOM sure enough after submitting my post it appeared only in a red box, and I assume it was only visible to me until it got approved by the mods. Sure enough within a few minutes it became part of the thread. Big Brother is watching. Has anyone else experienced this? @Architecht

And now the post has appeared. Thanks, mods!

OK, I just typed in a reply and used the name for the other grading company and my post was 'Hidden' as well, likely waiting to be approved by the mods. It's sitting just above this one but in red and I'm betting only I can see it. Looks like they have a new censor installed that prevents people from naming the competition until the mods approve the post. Personally, I think it's silly that you can't name them.

I wonder if the mods have some new form of censorship because the word C@@S was in the post...that's odd.

@drbanner I'm not disagreeing with you. I agree that many of those prices haven't been repeated. I just quoted you along with jaydog to keep the context.

Dunno Roy, the GPA data I show above certainly shows a 2-3 year trend of "record prices" for this book and they can't all be exceptional copies/destined for upgrade. I realize it doesn't show Clink or private sales, but the trend of record sale after record sale (even just wrt GPA reported data) is quite obvious. 8.0 and above are their own animal and there are so few sales I imagine they fall all over the map. When I say 'record' prices, I mean the copies that sold in the last 2 months for a multiple of what they normally would have sold for just weeks or months prior. The outlier prices. In those same auctions there were books that didn't go for outlier prices. Yes, the book has been rising in price for 55 years but I'm talking about the exceptional copies rising and the non-exceptional copies rarely making a blip on the radar (meaning, just following their usual trend).

Went under the radar??????...it was talked about here TWICE. Why cause the first time it was an overgraded voldemort copy and went for what sub 100k... and then a wow look at this great 8.5 CGC copy that went for 150k. It was on Heritage, which arguable has the best sales platform in the hobby, is the largest auctions collectibles house in the world and as a rule, AF #15 doesn't go under the radar from my experience. Especially high grade copies.

Fiction. They were not only repeated but exceeded (in the last comiclink auction, no less). What you guys regularly don't mention is that every record sale price has been for books that were either improvable (my professional opinion for the books I've seen up close) or exceptional for the grade (possibly improvable or speculated as such) and not mentioning those things is kind of like quoting top GPA when selling a book but ignoring all other sales figures because they don't support what you want for your book. Non-exceptional or average AF #15 copies did not go for record prices (to my knowledge). I still can't understand how an AF #15 CGC 8.5 in Feb goes for $150K but then a CGC 8.0 goes for $260K 3 months later.

I don't understand you logic here, Roy. I know the history you're referring to but don't understand why it went for a " weak" price because of it. There was a lot of discussion regarding this book both pre CGC and post CGC certification. In my experience, this sort of online discussion can tend to make the general public skittish for various reasons - some people don't like when a book keeps coming back to the market in a short period of time, the talk of whether it was accurately graded or not in the CBCS holder, etc. It's just people reacting to market noise. Very people few can see through the noise when it comes to dropping big bucks on a book. As I've said numerous times in the AF #15 thread, someone got a steal when it was in a CBCS holder and someone got a steal when it finally sold in the same grade in a CGC holder. I don't bid in auctions much but if I was paying attention I'd have tried to buy the book at the time. And right now I'm betting everyone wishes they stepped up and bought it either time. I think it's a marvelous purchase.

Oh, when I was aggressively collecting I waaaay overspent on books I wanted.

The left edge of the back cover has several small tears, possibly from when the book was bound in a distributor stack. One wouldn't think the book is upgradable. Eye appeal from the white page quality, lack of chipping, and the unyellowed white cover stock (making the cover colors look great) should lead to a big price for the assigned grade. Great looking book. Wear on all corners, top right being the worst, top edge right side, spine stress, etc. Solid looking 7.0 The best grade AF #15 I ever owned in my personal collection was a 7.0 and it was spectacular. It would have graded much higher but it had a staple pop that kept the grade down. I sold it about 6 years ago for $35K to another dealer. I thought I killed with that sale. Guess it's all relative.

Sometimes it takes a special number for someone to part with a book and if someone meets that special number the deal happens. I think that's how Barton described how he parted with his AF #15 9.2 $275K was a strong number. I feel like $230K is a conservative number, even though it was realized at auction I think some people were put off by bidding simply because the book came back to market so quickly. I think a similar thing happened to the AF #15 8.5 that was previously in a CBCS label. It SHOULD have gone for a stronger number IMO but it went weak because it had a bit of a history to it. If a copy had not been on the market for the last year or two it may have gone stronger. Metro may have also sold their copy. I don't know. Sometimes books move quietly without much fanfare. A lot of the biggest books I sell go that way. Shameless plug. http://vintagecomics.com/marquee-books.html