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I also wanted to mention - this was a response to a WTB thread. NOT an in a sales thread.

 

If it was a response to a sales thread, I'd be more inclined to say this could be a valid PL nomination. But it's a PM response to a WTB thread. The guy wasted your time and that sucks - but I don't see it as a completed deal and not PL worthy. Again, just my

 

It really doesn't matter where and how the deal was done. A deal is a deal - period. We can argue about symantics all day long, but deals get done in the sales thread itself, in PMs and on eBay. People have been added to the PL or HOS in all 3 situations listed above. As soon as the buyer says "OK, I'll take them" then that constitutes a sale and both buyer and seller need to fulfill their obligation to complete the deal.

I am afraid it is a valid point simply because there is no list of rules posted for a WTB thread in the way there are in a selling thread.

Customs are customs and posted rules are posted rules.

Compromise is a two way street.

Oh Man that was intense...huff huff huff

 

It's definitely a frustrating situation and glad you made it public so anyone can know the type of buyer they'd be dealing with if they were trying to work out a deal with Xela, but I don't think it's a PL worthy situation since the actual price was never agreed upon with the shipping costs factored in. A couple of books difference is but we're talking about a difference in $20 - $40 difference.

I think the medicine has taken affect.

That's what I said.

 

Horrorshow, if the buyer thought that the cost was going to be $25 he should have said so, or should have asked for an approximate shipping quote BEFORE saying he takes it. Heck BCC GAVE him a quote of 50-60 at the start of the discussion and the final price as 63, so it's not like he quoted him 50 and said oops it was 75. BCC compromised. He 1st gave him an approximate quote and gave him a $20 credit. Then he offered to drop the price down to $11 cost for buyer but the seller is not responsible for any shipping damage. Don't agree to a "cost" price and then not like it after you agreed to it.

 

jaybuck I suppose you make a good point for the seller trying compromise as well.

 

FYI The buyer did not politely back out of the deal, he said "I'll pass" no other explaination and refused to communicate anymore

 

We did agree to shipping terms. I said the shipping would prob be $50-$60 and he said I'll take it. in that order.

 

Finally, he made ZERO attempt to compromise, I have no idea where you are getting that from.

Must think on this...

 

No, it's not really that good of a point

 

The seller was going to chip in $20 towards the cost of shipping - which would cover the added expense of insurance.

 

The seller also offered a couple of shipping rates that were uninsured. Yes, he was clear that there would be no coverage. But since the buyer suggested a shipping rate of $25 - which was also an uninsured rate - he should have been o.k. with that.

Must think on this too...

 

 

Buyers going to blow a deal over shipping?

 

 

 

 

 

Pardon my saying so but I have noticed before that you seem to be quite un-moving and not terribly understanding of the difficulties involved when it comes to international shipping.It is exactly the point that can break a deal.

 

 

 

No it's not because I'm not understanding of the difficulties. I would however have honored a deal regardless of cost of shipping,because 1) I know shipping is expensive for international shipping 2) I have morals and ethics and would complete my purchase.So breaking a deal would not have happened with me regardless if shipping was 25 dollars or 75 dollars,because I made a deal and my word is my bond.

Ok I should not have said you were not understanding.My mistake.

I tried to find a rule book on the boards for WTB threads and it does not appear there is anything as clear cut as posting a selling thread.

Just saying.

 

 

Buyers going to blow a deal over shipping?

 

 

Not really so funny Oak. There is the matter of $500 liability here.

Pardon my saying so but I have noticed before that you seem to be quite un-moving and not terribly understanding of the difficulties involved when it comes to international shipping.It is exactly the point that can break a deal.

 

Only issue is, insurance is seller's responsibility, not buyer's, unless specifically agreed

I am sorry but this is a really good point. Both parties need to be willing to compromise if a deal is to be met and the buyer appears to have been more understanding at this point. He had no choice but to back out as that was probably the least foul action he could take.

IMO not PL worthy

Only issue is, insurance is seller's responsibility, not buyer's, unless specifically agreed

I am not usually involved in probation discussions and I do not have anything involved but I am not so sure this is probation list worthy.

First the buyer politely backed out of the deal. Clearly resigned,but not reneged. They did not like the conditions of the sale.

Second the deal was struck but the 2 parties could not agree to shipping terms.

Finally the above quote does make a valid point as the buyer appears to have made more of an attempt to compromise than the seller.

Perhaps a strike or two is in order for the buyer, but in all fairness I would limit it there.

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