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another back from slabinator. Not one seen every day.

Pretty stoked - made it to updated sig line:)

Robot Man, your killing me. I don't think I can sleep tonight.

DWC7.... What the ?? Where did this come from?! I'm like dancing around the room and twisting in summersaults. Major personal grail attack.

My two...

Thanks, jpepx78 for keeping on top of mind this unforgivable and tragic part of U.S. history. I’m grateful for our very own U.S. legal system having reversed the unconscionable incarceration decision in the Supreme Court case Mitsuye Endo vs. the United States December 18th, 1944 followed up many years later by the Civil Liberties Act of 1988. World-wide, I’m continuously shocked by learning of the numerous horrific slaughters enacted from various sides in WWII - like the Nanjing Massacre in 1938 where 300,000 Chinese were killed by the Japanese. In just one other location, 150,000 people were killed at Babi Yar Kiev under Nazi occupation. I sincerely hope we’ve learned from these unimaginable experiences. It is interesting as the comic you showed demonstrates, 33,000 Japanese Americans joined the Allied efforts against the Axis in the U.S. military during WWII.

Thanks Miracle. I think this is the by far the most detail yet known.

Some hard to come by stuff..

Two here two. Those in know of the history of this pedigree, and where/how it ranks in the Pedigree pantheon please feel free to contribute.

Up to two..

Double Ped!!

Double Ped!!

Love that All Great Sky.

My goodness Robot Man!

Cant' compete. But can still post my best two.

New add, Cosmic Aeroplane pedigree. First time paying state taxes via HA lol.

What a beauty.

Was hoping for sure someone here would know the story behind these.

I changed the wording a bit in my original post to clarify Robot Man, I knew you bought a few on secondary market direct from Ron, and I was teasing a little bit. Heck you probably passed over while scanning through those long boxes a couple of the ones that made it in my collection now. If I get a time machine it may be my second stop (after I grab a couple of Action #1s off the rack of course). There is some new information in your post. You mention that four of the five post camp books you bought from Alan with COA had no markings at all, no date stamp, nothing! I don't believe its been mentioned that some (or even possibly a majority) were unmarked! That would mean a great many of the post camp books from Ron's group will be and are just lost. Kudo's to Ron for doing the COA - was he also instrumental in getting the Pedigree recognized by CGC? One can imagine one day mystery buyer's copies suddenly appearing for auction at HA or ComicConnect, or perhaps a repeat of the estate sale like the original in 1995.

Here are a couple of questions. Within this very thread the story unfolded that there were three original buyers of about 1,200 comics, split evenly between them. Of the three buyers, 1/3rd landed in the hands of Alan Bahr who made Certificates of Authenticity (COA). The other 1/3rd were sold by Ron Murry to numerous different lucky buyers (like Robot Man) at Con's up and down the West Coast in 1995/1996. The final 1/3rd presumably is held tightly by a mystery buyer in a hoard not yet released to the public. Question 1: From the books and lists posted here in the thread, I estimate from coded date gaps there were probably about 180 copies with the sigs/dates (camp copies - did that term also originate here?). That is only 15% of the total pedigree. So, why don't we see more date stamped post-camp books come up for sale? Even if only Alan Bahr's COA date stamped copies were selling as Okajima's there still should be 3x the number on the market vs. camp copies. Question 2: How many owners of these camp copies in particular have or had an Alan Bahr COA associated with them?

For me, the thing that supports a single signer theory the best is the coding itself (I'm not a hand writing expect but the sigs look darn similar to me). As far as we know from books shared in this very forum, with very few inconsistencies, the coding is in chronological order "1e" is followed by "1f" etc., all the way to "4x" then over to date stamps. Seems unlikely the shop keep would have keep such perfect numbering holding books for someone? There was a brother and sister at the time, I suppose its possible the two wrote and coded them together in some way. I don't think we will ever know exactly.