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Those look great. The strange thing I have seen with pre-lims is that they go for 5-20% of the published piece. Depending on the piece. What I never understood is how a finished prelim could sell for less than a similar looking sketch or commission piece by the same artist. I agree with you that the process is very cool. At the same time - the prelim is where the spark of creativity took place. The artist created magic from a blank page. The finished piece is usually a more detailed copy of the prelim. The reality is - that most comic art collectors prefer finished(slick?) looking pieces. Perhaps thats why most of us like inked more than pencils. Interesting topic - hope more folks here chime in on how they feel about this stuff.

thank you.

@AnkurJ your premise is correct as long as you see the market going up. I know that for comics and toys and such - every year new stuff costs more than previous years. and yesterday's prices on most items usually feel cheaper when looking back. a lot of folks I meet will say about a purchase ' its expensive' - but not if you try to imagine what that item might cost in the future. I think for me any way - its got mostly to do with budget. how much do I have to spend. Even if I feel an item will go up, - I am constrained to some extent by my budget. Also - it is possible to overpay for stuff. For example when buying of coolyness. Perhaps the market will catch up to their prices in the future - but how long is that?

another interesting report. the one item on the list that I was actually very keen on was the Lee X-men. But after winning some other stuff to be posted soon, I couldn't go to 15k on a page. The reason I am talking about this page here is your comment about the team not having their regular costumes. For me, the costumes in that issue make this more special as that Jim Lee run with the 'new costumes' was so cool when it came out and is preferable for me as a collector of art. It will be interesting to see what happens with UXM 248 cover coming up in the next big heritage auction. Not Lee's best X-cover, but it is his first. the other piece I did not win,but which I was initially excited about and wanted to go after was the Bill S Elektra painting. not sure if the final hammer price was good or bad - but the off-centered image (all the way on the right) kept me from bidding higher. I loved the way he painted Elektra, but that blank space beside her was going to bother me if I ever had the chance to hang it on my walls.

Booyakasha my cgc art fan brother!

wow! Can't believe that is Vigil. Its outstanding. Congrats.

so - I am not sure if this page was inked by Buscema - but I suspect it might have been as it all came in a package when I got it some 20 years back. I am not sure what its from and perhaps if anyone knows - you can let me know here. the writing on it says amazing spider-man annual. but not sure which one, if at all. what makes this piece interesting to the discussion is the 3 stages of drawing Big John went through to create this. 1st is the loose layout page drawn on regular 11x17 paper. 2nd is a slightly tighter pencil piece on marvel board finally the inked page. as you can see - he made some changes to the shots -but the most striking thing for me is the fact that the earlier stages are far more lively. On the other hand -the inked page seems to have lost a lot of that energy and life that existed in the rough work.

hey guys and gals, if anyone here is heading to art con on Sunday March 18th and has pictures they can post of the event (booth displays, cool pieces etc..) it would be very nice of you. thanks in advance.

not sure if anyone cared for the series Silent Invasion -but the cover for 5 just showed up at koch comic art for $800. not sure if that is a fair price or not - the original price is still written in pencil at the top corner.

maybe that could be a topic for a future podcast. do a survey and discuss. or not. just an idea.

I had the toy - got at a garage sale as a kid. loved it. not sure what happened to it -but as a kid, the best part was that it fired missiles out of the wings which popped open.

What is the story behind this thread. Feel like I have been in a cave and missed out on the news here.

wow. great podcast. this was back to basics, collectors talking to collectors - and real treat overall. one interesting point that came up with the Andy discussion was ending auction prices 'with juice'. Although lots of folks say they look at the final price when they bid at HA - I think there are many of us who consistently fail to do this. The hammer price is always the physically larger # on the screen and the one that is mentioned by the auctioneer -while the 'juice' portion is played down. The end result is many of us spend more at HA - and the extra money doesn't go to the consignor. This is one reason I like CLINK better -as ending prices don't carry that same level of fees that make it seem like a great result -but in HA's case -that result benefits them, not the consignor. The other part of Andy's story about a friend who sold art to buy art - was very relatable. I have sold stuff only to not have enough to fund a piece. The trick, I learned, the hard way - is to buy first -and then sell. this way if you lose the auction, no need to sell.

At least one collector exists. Remember the Capullo Batman 1 cover?

What is LW&C?

Perhaps if this poll was up on CAF - it would be different? As the pool is larger than thoae of us here.

The universe is so depressing

I have the Reis cover. See it HERE. I love the Cooke piece too. Was going to bid - but since it was a commission - I passed on trying. This cover was 'homaged' several times and remains a fun topic for sure. I am sure new versions will come up in years to come.

This poll was inspired by the poll for 'how long have you been collecting art'. Since the results there show most of us in the higher end - I was curious to see if that makes most of us fall into the higher age groups ?

There is a ralph snart color guide coming up @ ha.com - the image wasnt up when I found it posted via CAT the other day. Comes up in next week's Sunday auction.

ah.. makes me think back to the era of epic illustrated, void indigo and the like. Nice page. Incidentally Fish Police has come up often at ha. another long running series of the time.

there was a cool piece a short while back at heritage -but I missed it as I was bidding on other items. its not from the original series -but a very cool piece by Steve Rude. heritage link

So was your dad a collector too?

Not sure what you are saying. I dont have any art from that series yet. Keeping my eyes open.

Seems like a lot of the items you checked off had longer runs. In that respect - some of my favorites include Nexus, Groo, Grendel, teenage mutant ninja turtles, badger, grimjack and judge dredd. At the same time - shorter series that I still care to own art from include: adventurers, elf lord, troll lords, whisper, eagle, mr monster, megaton man, adolecent black belt hamsters. 90s indy titles at the top of my list - madman, the tick and bone.