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I love Jim Lee art - but as @Rick2you2 said - a tiny headsketch for this price is a terrible value when you can get actual pages for that rate. The problem is that such a sketch is not really satisfying. Nothing personal or special about it. If he does 1000 of those there would be no difference between them. The attraction for me of original art is uniqueness. A side view headshot of Batman is the opposite of unique. If it's $50-100 and you just want something - I get that, but better to go with something else if you are spending 1k or more.

The way that last sentence was going I thought you were going to say " and romita has always been - so bad he's good too." As a way to tie it all together. And also as a nod to all the romita haters in the other thread.

like this?

I figured you had to be joking. Anyone with Sergio Aragones and Kent Burles art among their holdings, has to be decent at heart. It's just I heard of this (punishment bidding) before - and really can't understand the concept.

who does that?!

not me. they are on my list too. and in an open auction type situation - I am not likely to win over Gene.

wonder woman 174 here

cool story. If i got it wrong - feel free to correct me - but he did the art first, then you saw it then you got it? or did you commission it blindly and then love it after it was done. Asking because i don't have a problem with buying art that was drawn first - if i like it. Blind commissions are more of a gamble in my view which is why I generally shy away from getting them.

when I started this thread I was looking forward to more participation. I know that asking for images is asking for a bit of work -but ultimately in art collecting its a visual medium so showing images makes this much more fun. It doesn't need to be a lot of work though- just pick an artist you are interested in, but don't yet have art from and show some images of work they have done (google is easy to use.). Sharing the love for artists and their art seemed like a great thing to do among 'art lovers.' As the post has gotten a lot of views, I think there is interest and as a way to hopefully evoke more sharing - I would like to share another artist I love that I hope to one day pick up a piece of art from. Dave Stevens - he needs no introduction. Super famous. Created the Rocketeer. Everyone loves him. I got to meet him at San Diego back in the 90s. Heck of a guy. My first taste of Dave's work was those 3d comics back in the 1980s - seduction of the innocent and Shana. I was also a huge fan of Johnny Quest -and Dave's cover to #5 has been burned onto my brain. I know I will likely never own any of these -but I love his work. I especially love his luscious inking style. I have the art books and they are sweet. Many folks have pointed out that Dave was influenced by Matt Baker . Baker's brush technique certainly fits the bill. Is there a new Dave Stevens in comics today? If so - who is he/she? here are some of my favorite Stevens Covers.

As collectors - it's always exciting to get your first piece of art by a particular artist. Is there any artist that you hope to get an example from one day? So - I have been on the lookout for a cool painting by Massimo Carnevale for a while now. He was one of the cover artists on Y the last man and Northlanders - but most of his work is on Italian comics. What I love most from him is his paintings. He draws great faces, costumes and more - but I adore his rendering in his paintings. While some pieces are available for sale right now- still have not found the right one for me. Not looking for more than 1 - so I gotta love it. Thought I would start this post as a way to talk about artists whose work we hope to own someday. Doesn't need to be a specific piece. Just the artist. Tell us who they are, what you like about them and show a representative image of their work. As we know many long practicing artists have changed their styles over time - so try and show an image with the qualities you enjoy. So - what artist are you on the look out For?

Hold on. Unless you know the guy - could be lots of reasons. And there is no guarantee of a final price.

It' not a bad page - but the cover has Spidey and what made that comic cool at the time was the idea of 2 of them fighting each other.

A new car costs less than his sketches. Nice page btw!

Bumping as ending the sale Monday.

Have you ever bought a piece of art - that you never would have thought you would like or even care about until the day you saw it. That's what happened here. If you had asked me am I a Jones fan or if I care for a Batman cover - I would likely have said No. Not really. Then it happened. Did I mentions there are mummy and Deadman? Just added. Batman and Deadman cover by Kelly Jones. See it Here.

who is the artist?

IDW adoring DC artist books. Interesting.

11 pieces just added to for sale folder. 10 covers. One batman/superman dps. Michael Turner, Ivan Reis, Ernie CHAN, Carlo Pagulayan, Ed Mcguinness, Dan Panosian, Terry Dodson and more. Batman, superman, deadpool, hulk, iron man, she hulk, X-Men, Cloak and Dagger, Deadman, etc All items priced. Best offers considered. Sale on for a short time as I raise funds for new art. Thanks. See all art here.

Inspired by a comment in the Jim Lee commssion post - where a board is said they got commissions with expectations to not get their money out t any point. I present this poll. For art you buy at $500 or more - even though you may not buy for value - most of us have expectations of value - so what is yours for art you buy now ( not art you have held for years already. ) time line for gains or losses will vary - but in general - it' for however long you will keep it. Assuming didn't buy to flip in the first place. Talking published art here. Not commssions.

If you are comfortable doing so - what is this A art you speak of?

I had this mad idea that I can come up with my own system - like the famous 'Andy Method'. But now I know - there will never be another one like that.

Thats what i get for staying up instead of going to bed.

so with the discussion being all very deep - I thought I would try and sum it up as a math equation. where C = Character, A = Artist, N = Nostalgia, P = Popularity and V =Value CA+NP = V now - to do math -each needs a value - so if we say a value from 0.1-10 with 0.1 being low and 10 being high. as an example character = samurai santa (0.1 out of 10 since we don't have zero as a choice) A = Jim Lee (9.5 out of 10 -since he's a meagastar) N = 0.1 (since again, don't have zero to choose from) p = 0.1 Value = 0.1x10+0.1x0.1 value =0.11 now 0.11 is kind of a weird value - so to get a $ value, you would need to calculate this for a lot of art, then figure out the median price and extrapolate.. etc.. (example if median price for a comic page is $100 - then a samurai santa page would be worth $11) if we tried this out with something popular like Batman hush A = Jim Lee (9.5 out of 10) C = Batman (10 out of 10 - is there a more popular character in comics?) N = key story collected by a lot of folks and still a big hit in trade (8 out of 10) P = 9 V =9.5x10+8x9 value =167 so between the 2 examples - its clear batman hush - is worth more than 1500 times the samurai santa feel free to destroy my attempted art math. no hard feelings if you do.

Wow! The knowledge here never stops to amaze me.

So its the cabal! I knew it.