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2 hours ago, Keep_It_Clunky said:

Don't know if you'll be compensated for postage, but they will reholder for free. I've had slabs with hairs, etc that they took back with no problem.

Thank you so much Keep_It_Clunky for letting me know your experience with this situation

Thank you so much guys for your replies. I really appreciate it. Unfortunately it does take away from the aesthetics :( I am pretty sorry it was my first submission too. Thing is I am located in the UK so on the fence about what to do about it. LOL sagekilz post!

Have a good day all.

Hi Folks,

Thank you for any feedback in advance it is super appreciated I just got back my first CGC submission and it came back with some debris in the case as in the photo below? What would you do about this as it is an ugly spot!

1 minute ago, valiantman said:

CGC 9.8 ASM #33 was certainly undervalued for less than $2,000 in 2016.  It was overvalued at $9,700 in 2009, but there weren't as many on the CGC census.  I think CGC 9.8 ASM #33 was undervalued at $3,600, but the most recent sale was $5,000 and that's right in that historical middle area for the book.  I'm not sure I understand why there are so many CGC 9.8 ASM #33 (41 copies), but relative to other $5,000+ Silver Age books, 41 isn't very many.  It's just "a lot" compared to other early Spider-Man CGC 9.8 books.

Do you think the rarity of some of the Spidey books is intentional?

7 minutes ago, valiantman said:

Scroll through some of the topics in Silver Age and you'll see several where someone posts "Can you believe ### just sold for five times the previous high sale??!??!?!?"

That only happens with "highest graded copies".  You won't find a CGC 8.5 doing that. 

Truer word never been spoken!

1 minute ago, Martin Sinescu said:

Those days are gone.

 I might have to set my sights lower ...

3 minutes ago, Martin Sinescu said:

I'm curious as to why you have targeted 33 without having completed the story. Not saying that in a negative way, it's just that I would expect most buyers looking for a copy of 33 would want it because of the emotional attachment to the story.

Well I was saving the rest of the story to start at the begining of the arc and was going to do that this weekend I thought the cover was a masterpiece really and would enjoy seeing it everyday

2 minutes ago, Martin Sinescu said:

It's an interesting point and I'd guess it's unlikely a higher grade exists (does SA ever hit 9.9?), but I would be a little concerned at the volatility of the "highest" grade, just seems it makes that a bit more perilous. Also, we're talking an $850 difference between the 33 9.8 (last sale at $5k) and 9 8.5 (last sale at $4150). The money saved could buy a 9.4 of 33 

I saw an 8.5 sold for 3K and a #33 sold for 3.5K i think unless those were really old prices....I looked all over Heritage, CL and all the usual spots including Ebay!

10 minutes ago, bc said:

Good Luck (and your patience will be rewarded) 

Thank you bc

2 minutes ago, valiantman said:

This is a good counterpoint, and if we were talking about any grade besides CGC 9.8 ASM #33, your argument would probably sway me as well, but the phrase "and no higher copies exist after 20 years of CGC grading" pushes the scales toward CGC 9.8 ASM #33 by a whole bunch.

I gotta say I like the sound of a 9.8 although bc is going to say the 9.9 will come up! They always say don't buy the grade though don't they, as in deer in headlights 9.8.....

4 minutes ago, Martin Sinescu said:

Oh and I should mention I'd go after 9 in an 8.5 if you've got the money to spend. 8's can be a bit rough. Just like what's been mentioned before, there are plenty of qualities beyond just the grade to take into account, especially when you're spending that kind of money, you owe it to yourself to grab the best looking copy in that grade that you can find.

Thanks for your expertise Maritin So go for a 9.0 not an 8.5 with good centering and off white pages? I have never bought a high value book and until now my most expensive is a $70 Tarzan CGC! So this is a big step. I am forgoing a scooter on this one! A comic book nut I guess

2 minutes ago, Martin Sinescu said:

If it were me, I'd go after the first appearance of a classic villain. He may not be an a-lister, but certainly a villain that is instantly recognized by all Spidey fans. Not to snub 33, it's great and that storyline is almost always in the Top 5 Spidey stories of all-time (although we're really talking about 3 issues combining to make that story), but I think that original Rogues Gallery just has a certain mystique about them and being in the first 10 issues should also make it a bit scarcer. We've seen a pretty steep run-up for ASM 14 lately and it seems like all those original villains have been making pretty strong gains lately.

Oh no being swayed back! I had originally thought that as was drawn to the top 13 or so issues....but sone might be over inflated by movies such as ASM# Mysterio IMHO it should be of equal value to another villain like Electro not higher. But maybe thats because of the white cover scarcity etc. By the time I am done with you guys I will end up with a 3.0 for number #2 LOL! Thanks Martin!

Just now, bc said:

Thank you Will stay away from those! Which seem to be the vast majority at the moment!

1 minute ago, valiantman said:

The wrap (miswrap) on ASM #33 could cause the letters of 

MARVEL

COMICS

GROUP

which is beside the 12cent price to be wrapped toward the back, making it look like...

MARVEL

OMICS

ROUP

Which would be an "ugly" miswrap for a CGC 9.8.

I gotcha! Sorry for making you write that out and for being a dumbo!

Just now, bc said:

OW or OW-W is fine, as that is pretty subjective anyway.

The centering would be the selling point for me. 

Ok good thanks! Will stick to that. Yes I can't stand a mis-wrap. 

4 minutes ago, bc said:

ps - if you haven't read the story line, pick up a cheap reprint or TPB (ASM 31-33) . You'll likely want the book even more

 

I started reading a reprint but have not gotten to #33 yet. Yes one of the things I would really value is loving the story as well as the art inside a book as well, even though I doubt I would ever crack it open!

Just now, valiantman said:

Agreed, if you go for a CGC 9.8 ASM #33 make sure the price box clearly says "MARVEL COMICS GROUP" on the front cover, not "MARVEL OMICS ROUP". 

How do you mean valiantman or are you pulling my leg (joking with someone in the UK) : because it would be an obvious fake?

1 minute ago, bc said:

Whatever you decide, if you go with a high grade 33, wait for one with White pages and excellent centering. See many with half of Spideys head on the back cover.

Thank you so much bc. I have been looking at a lot of them and wondered why they are all mis-wrapped. Too right. I have literally only seen 2 white pages copies one in a 9.8 and one in a 9.2 I think. I think that maybe as they were Silver age white might be very thin on the ground. Slippery slope but would you go for white pages, pretty good centering or off white to white and not so good centering 9.8? Or does that take us back to ASM #9 LOL!

2 minutes ago, valiantman said:

I just revised my post, there are nearly 300 copies of ASM #9 in CGC 8.0 or higher. I was just thinking of the 150+ at CGC 8.0 and 8.5.

That is a lot! Hmmmm now I am in a quandry! But sounds like I shouldn't be and get on the ASM# 33 bandwagon as you guys suggest.

5 minutes ago, bc said:

Until one of the 41 CGC 9.8 copies gets CPR'd into a 9.9 

It's a "key" in its own right, part of a classic story line.

 Hi bc don't burst my bubble LOL! This is tough as is  You guys are right it's a key in itself. I guess I always thought of keys as first appearances etc..

3 minutes ago, valiantman said:

ASM #33 isn't a first appearance, but it is a "classic cover" that will always stand out beyond ASM #32 or ASM #34.  To me, ASM #33 is a "better book" than ASM #9, since Electro isn't a top-tier Spider-Man villain, ASM #33 is a classic cover (and classic storyline) and the difference in the ages of the books and numbers surviving are offset by the much higher grade of a CGC 9.8 ASM #33 (just 41 CGC 9.8 copies on the CGC census) versus 150+ of ASM #9 at 8.0 or higher. 

I have to start thinking like you mathematically , and too right Electro is not realyl the gold standard of Spidey villains as you said.

53 minutes ago, valiantman said:

If the ASM #33 CGC 9.8 is beautiful, then it literally has no ceiling in future value.  All the other books you mentioned have a ceiling, a next higher grade, and they'll always be valued as some percentage of a different book which "ranks above" them.

Hi Valiantman,

I never thought of it like that at all. Wow! I always thought of what your money can buy, of course I love both books equally in different ways, and have been saving for a long time now. Do you think even though it is ' not a "key" like the first appearance of Electro then it being a 9.8 it trumps that? Or will it not hold it's value as it is a randomish issue? Thanks again

Hi all you geniuses on this board

I need your expert advice. If you had the chance to either buy an Amazing Spiderman #33 in 9.8 0r 9.6 OR for the equivalent money an Amazing Spiderman #9 in either 8.5 or 8.0 which would it be and why? Thank you you for any feedback all!

RIP Syd Shores

On 5/28/2019 at 10:07 PM, Chaykin Stevens said:

Your drawing is by Syd Shores and Frank Giacoia from Daredevil #102.  Shores sadly passed away a couple of months after this was published.

Gosh thank you so much all! Geniuses abound here Have a good day! Am going to be looking at those issues and especially Daredevil 102!