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On 3/26/2024 at 9:16 PM, sfcityduck said:

Edgar Church was the Original Owner of the group of books bought after his death by Chuck Rozanski of Mile High Comics which were initially called the "Mile High" pedigree but for reasons we don't need to delve into (many pedigree names are not those of the OO) have evolved into being called the Edgar Church/Mile High pedigree.

The "Dentist" or "DA" etc. is the owner of that comic. Steve Borock was the chief grader for CGC & CBCS and Stephen Fischler is part owner of Metropolis Comics/Comic Connect who invented the numeric grading scale, and both have seen the book and offered their 9.2-9.4 views on the grade. Most folks believe the MH is the "best existing" Action 1, but you never know. There have been rumors of other longtime collectors than DA who are sitting on really nice Action 1s. The perception of the number of high grade GA comics generally gets deflated due to the perception that almost all are encapsulated, which is certainly not the case. Action Comic 1s were a lot more available then people think they were back in the early days of comic collecting. They were also a lot more affordable. Mitch Mehdy's Guiness Book of World Records Action 1 cost but a fraction of the cost of a house in 1973 at $1,800 and change, but ten years earlier Action 1 was available in the low hundreds and less. Who knows where those are? Richard Kyle bought his copy off the stand and still had it according to Xero 8 which came out in 1962.

The best collection ever seen on these boards, Bangzoom's, is entirely unencapsulated and I don't think he ever denied owning an Action 1 even though he did not admit. The guy did, however, own the check paid to Siegel or Shuster for work on Action 1 and I just don't think he'd have that if he didn't have an Action 1.  BZ is a guy, after all, who was collecting in the early 60s and dealing nice key GA books (which suggests he had great books before he picked up the key group of OO books in the 1970s that wowed everyone on these boards).

The problem with estimates of the number of Action 1s is that a lot of numbers were thrown out at various times that were based on just local guesses. Mitch Mehdy, who I am not picking on here but he did get a lot of press so what he said entered the zeitgeist, told the press when they covered his purchase that his Action 1 was one of only 9 known copies. That wasn't true then. Wasn't a lie, just that Mitch didn't know the true numbers because he was a Sacramento teen in 1973 and there were collectors all over the country but no internet or reliable sources of information for him to tap. My guess is that there are other high grade copies out there, but one likely to top a 9.2 MH Copy? Unlikely, but not impossible.

The two 9.0s are owned by Hariri and one is the stolen but recovered "Nick Cage copy" and the other was brought to market by Darren Adams after several upgrades in its holder (the book has a spine split but blinding white pages and the 9.0 might be technically generous but seems to have some beauty contest accuracy). The copy Adams sold was owned for many years by an established dealer who kept it in the same cedar blanket box in which he found it. This has added to the perception of the magic power of cedar to preserve comics as the MH comics were, in part, stored in a closet with cedar paneling.

 

 

Amazing institutional knowledge you have sfcityduck. I really appreciate as I am sure other boardies do your post and taking your time to write this up. The history of comic books and the people involved is so interesting and I really enjoyed reading about it. Thank you so much.

On 3/26/2024 at 9:02 PM, Crowzilla said:

Yes the Church copy = Mile High copy, and is owned by "The Dentist" (at that level, you aren't just a dentist, but THE dentist). The Dentist also owns the nicest known copies of Detective #27, Superman #1, Batman #1, Whiz #1, and Pep #22, along with the next couple of dozen issues of Action Comics from the Church collection, the original 1966 Batmobile (#1 and #2), and a host of other GA/SA and OA treasures. A true collector who loves the books and the hobby, and is unlikely to be motivated to sell anytime soon.

Both 9.0 copies of Action #1 are owned by the same person (Ayman Hariri) who also has a bunch of other really nice books, is in an even better financial position than The Dentist and also unlikely to have a motive to sell for the foreseeable future.

Wow super informative thank you for sharing

On 3/26/2024 at 2:10 PM, sfcityduck said:

As far as anyone knows you are describing one book, the uncertified Mile High Action 1 estimated by Borock and Fishler to be a 9.2-9.4 9 (few others have seen it), and it appears the owner and his son will never sell.

I must have gotten confused as I thought the Mile High was a 9.0 … sorry for the amateur question…so the Edgar Church copy is the Mile High copy and the current Owner is the “Dentist”? Apologies read this somewhere but think I am mixing things up!

I wonder if after a record sale, someone other than the seller of this one will dump a 9.2-9.4 on the market that someone has been holding onto for the right time.... Not sure if the market could potentially handle that value in that grade yet.  I guess also it would have to coincide with their life circumstances too IE needed/wanted to sell. The right time to sell is presumably never as the value should keep going up on Action #1. Do you guys think that there is a 9.4 for example out there and "they" are waiting for the market to "mature" enough? Or would they wait until someone sells one of the 9.0's?

On 3/22/2024 at 2:01 PM, WolverineX said:

Does anyone know how to navigated Hip comics to find this sale?  I have tried for the last hour and can't find it.  Did it exist? 

Could it have been some weird Best Offer option? Its says $930.75 online. Sorry I cant figure out Hip Comic either.

Famous Funnies #210 (1954) CGC 2.5 Frank Frazetta cover!

HipComic

https://www.hipcomic.com › listing › famous-funnies-2...

 

 

 

On 3/22/2024 at 4:01 AM, sfcityduck said:

Sorry, sold that set.  The prints are way better than the comics if you want to be able to look at them up on a wall. More durable and no worries.

Thank you very much for letting me know for kindly taking the time to respond to this hope you have  good day! Awesome to hear that they look wonderful! If I can find one it is good to know they will look great!

On 3/21/2024 at 10:23 PM, lou_fine said:

If I remember correctly, I received a PM from fellow boardie, @sfcityduck, about 2 years ago since I had expressed interest in acquiring a set.  

I already acquired another set in the interim, but you should try to contact him to see if his set is still available and if he still wants to part with it.  

Oh my gosh thank you so much I will ask

On 3/21/2024 at 8:00 PM, adamstrange said:

214 Print was only produced as part of the set.  I'm not aware of any other set or authorized printing of the 214.

The color design for these was done by Frazetta and produced under license by Russ Cochran.  They look great.

Hi Adamstrange, thank you ever so much for letting me know. Knew I would get definitive expert advice here:) I will try to see if there is a set for sale especially as 214's are still through the roof and might not come down....Thanks again

On 2/11/2022 at 6:41 PM, lou_fine said:

For those of you here who are fans of the Frazetta Famous Funnies cover artwork, another boardie just PM me with this HA listing they saw:  

https://comics.ha.com/itm/memorabilia/comic-related/frank-frazetta-famous-funnies-portfolio-russ-cochran-1975-/a/322206-47159.s?ic2=mybidspage-lotlinks-12202013&tab=MyBids-101116

Not sure about the price point here at $576, but I believe this is probably somewhere in the ballpark as I have seen them sell from $400 up to the $900 price range in past years.  Also not sure if the recent upsurge in prices for the underlying Frazetta Famous Funnies books would result in an increase for this type of related collectible, but definitely a poor man's way of acquiring a gorgeous example of Frazetta's classic artwork without having to pay 5-figures for some of these individual issues here.     

Just wish that I had been made aware of this Heritage Auction listing while it was still active, instead of after it had already ended.  

Hi Guys,

Sorry for the boring question, but I thought I would ask the experts  Do you know of any FF 214 prints, or if these exist outside of this set....I can't seem to find this set plus wondering if they might crazy prices now if I do find....I know Frazetta Girls do a print but its in black and white. Thanks for any pointers  

Am late to the party. I think Kirby is iconic... as in the style is so unique and is art on its own. He created his own genre and his art cannot be mistaken for anyone else. Having said that Adams art would look good on any character and would look 'natural' as in the storyline/ character was intended for him to draw.  Not so sure Batman or Superman for example would have looked ideal done by Kirby. However I am biased as Kirby's style is not my thing. I prefer Adams by a country mile. For me Adams is obviously realistic and you feel you are immersed and in the story and feel you are there. I guess it is a personal  preference and tastes differ. Also I am sure I am not qualified enough to be able to judge at this level! Like someone else said its also apples and oranges.... Long story short if I had original art on my wall it would be Adams and a character I loved.

On 3/20/2024 at 3:14 PM, jimbo_7071 said:

The latest technique is using blue light to lighten comic book covers, especially the white parts of the covers. (I have no idea whether that was done to this comic.)

CGC isn't treating it as restoration, probably because they don't have a way to detect it.

Here's one video on it:

 

Thank you so much for sharing jimbo_7071

Yes apologies I meant dry cleaned...which has made it whiter! However would this bump it up a half grade if all else stayed the same...

Just wondering what your 2 Cents or Pence from where I am...is on this one...

In theory would a Golden Age comic be cleaned and pressed and go from 8.0-8.5? I don't see much difference if that's what its had. I guess it does look whiter! 

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On 3/8/2024 at 4:37 AM, DougC said:

I used to have a spider set-up through google alerts to key word search certain books (including misspellings/numbering/ect) that would report back through email sorted into leveled subfolders depending on results. Unfortunately this is heavily SEO based and the CGC are not very good (they seemed to be indexed only once a day). I have since changed to the AWS back-end which is a bit more robust but still has SEO limitation for non-direct sight inclusions.

you can still do set-up alerts with google but I have heard they are not very good even for direct submission sights that are supposed to be checked every hour.

Thanks DougC for explaining I really appreciate it. I guess I have to keep manually searching and lose out to the speed of the folks on the CGC boards!  

On 3/4/2024 at 9:00 PM, Lightning55 said:

Yeah, it's not really a forum function, since it's not primarily a sales platform. 

You could do a general search for your comic within the site pages, and save the search as a favorite/bookmark in your browser. Rerun as often as you can.

Thanks Lightning55!

On 3/3/2024 at 1:12 PM, KCOComics said:

For the sales forum here? 

 

You can follow certain sellers who sell stuff you like,  but I think that's about it.  

Otherwise you can refresh the page on your phone every 26 seconds like I do. 

Thank you KCOComics

Hi All,

I hope everyone ins happy and healthy. Was not sure where to post this, but is it possible to set up an alert for when a certain issue is posted for sale? If so would you ever so kindly let me know how I might set this up? I tried to look at my profile etc but could not work it out! If anyone knows it would be much appreciated Thank you so much in advance for any pointers.

On 2/20/2024 at 6:07 PM, Robot Man said:

There is also this…

Never seen that before! Thanks for sharing

On 11/8/2019 at 5:51 PM, geofan said:

Guys...this is very confusing, my book is missing the following pages according to CGC Just checked my copy of Suspense and it is missing...pages 2, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19...which is so weird.

Can anyone help me in figuring  this out. 

I think this is your missing interior!!!!!

https://www.comicconnect.com/item/1035243

On 10/10/2022 at 4:40 AM, Cat-Man_America said:

Well, since we're all over the map on what constitutes a comic cover, here's the best cover I think Frazetta did specifically for EC material (mid-60's Ballantine paperback)...

After seeing this SF cover, even if you'd never seen an EC comic, you would buy it ...then immediately start hunting for the old back issues!  

Anybody know if this is also on any comic cover or is it offered as a print if anyone knows? Man this is amazing and have never seen it before. Thank you for sharing and any feedback

On 12/6/2023 at 3:52 AM, alxjhnsn said:

There are a lot of venues. You can find a list of some of them in the hidden text of the first post on this thread - Pricing Comic Art - 2023 Edition.

Wow thank you very much I'll go through this. This forum is amazing as usual as you all are and I thank you for this!

On 12/6/2023 at 1:33 AM, Will_K said:

If it's an Adams commission in a unique pose or unique medium (e.g. pencil or paint) then you should do well.  Even if it's a recreation of one of his panels, those are also nice.

If it's one of the Adams example that seem to be repeated over and over (e.g. Batman in profile), you might be disappointed.

Thanks alxjhnsn, its a color Batman headshot in a unique pose and not one of the generic ones, thank you for the insight as that's really g0od to know!

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On 12/5/2023 at 5:33 PM, Twanj said:

Forgot about that, there's a Deal or No Deal FB group and some others for selling comic art.

Thank you. I saw the Neal Adams Appreciation page so maybe there too! Thank you so much

On 12/5/2023 at 3:18 PM, christosgage said:

Commissions are always harder to sell than published art, because people don't have the nostalgia factor of remembering when they read the story years ago. As a result, commissions are often worth less on the open market than the seller paid for them, which probably has something to do with why you see them failing to sell. Having said that, the value will probably depend on factors like what year the commission was done, who the character is, and what it looks like. For example, a commission from the 1970s would be more in demand than one from the 2010s. A popular character like Batman will be more in demand than a more obscure character, but a character associated with Neal Adams like Deadman might be more in demand than a more popular character who isn't associated with Adams, like Spider-Man. I would suggest sharing some more information about the commission, such as year done, size, character, etc. or perhaps an image. As for where to sell it, I haven't sold commissions so I can't really help there, but I'm sure people here can give advice. However, they'll need more information about the piece. Best of luck!

Thanks so much for this detailed message and for the heads up for the character's etc, It sounds like if I decide to go ahead I'll put a description together and from what Twanj mentioned seems CGC and other forums and Facebook might be best,