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Yes, I've speculated along those lines, given their own production capacity, somewhere in that forgotten Charlton thread of mine. They were actually very consistent with their Charlton price variants, Miller. One of the stronger UK related patterns that I have enjoyed piecing together over recent years.

Good thought Eric, but both prices are identical in every respect - placing, strike and ink balance. In isolation, they look to have been applied by hand when compared to the rest of the cover. Looked at together however, every aspect suggests automation.

I love printing errors and I think that looks fantastic @DuckAmuck. I love the way the yellow appears at intervals down the red of the cover. Back in the day, as a Spidey completist, I would have paid a premium to have it. But that would've been at the much lower prices of the day of course, not the prices we see for that particular book today. Very nice looking error copy.

Alans were prone to a production slip or two... Mandrake's cool isn't he.

There's quite a bit of circumstantial evidence to suggest that in the early days, the pence copies were printed first on some if not all occasions. CGC graders themselves have noted 'deeper colour strikes' on early pence copies. So maybe the reverse could be true - a book printed early in the run, with a deeper / stronger ink application, could be the reason why some of it was absorbed by the inferior interior paper on assembly. But then we're back to the hypothesis that the indicia details may have been applied in a second print event so....

I've gathered lots of evidence to support a theory that the UK cover details (cover price / indicia) were applied after the event in the early days - different ink strike, different price locations on the cover, etc. Some of the early Charlton UKPVs certainly give the impression that the prices were added post production: From what I know of the printing process, which isn't much, they may have 'struck out' the US cover price and indicia from the plates, run the covers, and then added the cover price / indicia details in a second printing event. That would help explain moving prices above, and the ink transfer that you have identified on the Marvels Albert. It would also mean that the covers would, initially, have no prices and no indicia details after the first run. Should we expect to see examples that missed the second run therefore? There are a tiny handful of no price examples to support the above, e.g. TTA#16, but these could just as easily have been caused by the price fallen off of the template during production. It's all quite interesting isn't it, and I think the process changed rapidly, but we'll never really know unless we find that bloody Tardis. I can see it. The fact that only the indicia has transferred rules out the possibility of damp playing a part. Notwithstanding Malacoda's summary above, I still might expect an indicia that has not completely dried to leave a mark on the next cover on which it sat in the pile prior to being assembled. If we could find a cover that looked like this... ...with the T&P or LM indicia showing accordingly, that would be cool.

It's why I started the club Aman. They've been posted here and there in other threads, but are far too cool not to have their own. Go find one and become our sixth member! Brilliant. Comics bought on seaside holidays as a kid - as good as it gets

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Thank you Andy, glad you enjoyed it The table here notes when the cover months were present Andy (second and third entry): Every ASM #11 will have no cover month therefore, yes: It's very hard to know exactly what comics were on sale in the UK for any given month in the early days. We know that the comics tended to be printed 3 months or so in advance of their cover dates and we know that they were shipped to the UK by sea after printing. We don't know exactly how long the shipping took though, or how long T&P took to distribute, so can't be precise. There's an nice little example of trying to work that kind of thing out using real examples here, in one of my other UK related threads: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/471133-a-brief-review-of-the-first-official-uk-distribution-of-us-published-comics-in-19591960/?do=findComment&comment=11736984 If I were you, and in the absence of anything concrete, I would buy the ASM #11 pence copy as its indicia certainly says April 1964, even if the cover doesn't: (Sorry that's a bit blurry) If you were lucky enough to find a US cents copy with an arrival date that matched your birthday, that date, of course, would be the date it hit the US newsstand. No one in the UK seemed to go in for that kind of thing alas, stamping arrival dates, as far as I can see. So I'd stick with ASM #11 if it has to be a Marvel - you'll never know if it was for sale on your actual birthday, but at least it has your birth month printed in it. Good luck

Who knows Albert. If you think about it, we know the covers were printed separate to the innards, and logic says that they would have been run off and placed in a pile prior to assembly. Consequently, I would expect any ink to transfer to the next cover in the pile, not the splash page of the finally assembled comic. But who knows. It's fascinating, another physical clue as to what went on. I love what a comic can tell us about itself, before we start any Googleating - it's always been the bedrock of my own research approach - letting the comic tell its own story. Or at least, give us a few hints.

My understanding is that Arch does not work on the CGC forum account any longer - either way, he has not logged in here for over a year now so it's pointless tagging him, or Scott. Dena is the appointed admin lead, but her responsibilities extend far beyond managing problems here and, as such, this will be very low priority. I raised the missing sales button in a thread here... https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/480195-a-list-of-issues-relating-to-the-mid-december-2020-forum-software-upgrade/ ...which I put together to help Dena who is a great lady, deserving of our support. It's not her fault that the CGC management team under resource the day to day administration of their site and I know that she would do more if she could. Dena is aware of the issue by nature of having read the above thread, so it may happen at some point in the future if the updated software allows it. The site software is provided by Invision - CGC are a client of theirs - so Dena would have to flag the issue with them and they are not that quick in responding (I have tried myself in the past to get answers to other CGC board issues from them). There are very few things that our admins can influence directly, now that the site is in third party hands. We'll just have to cross our fingers and be patient.

No evidence in my T&Ps, but one example in one of my Millers:

I've checked four of my copies in that indicia type period (see table below from my T&P indicia types journal page) including my MGP#7 and I don't see the ink transfer in any of them. Here's my ST#75, clean as a whistle: I'll check the rest later.

Probably a bit soon Reggie - UK to US airmail can take 10-14 days. Tracking shows it was in San Francisco yesterday...

It's a question that many have pondered before you reptileking - hope this link works - lots of fun reading in there: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/search/?q="cva"&updated_after=any&sortby=relevancy&search_in=titles

That wasn't an easy example to find as it goes Rich...

That makes sense. The error doesn't exactly jump out like some do, so both CGC and the owner / submitters might have missed it.

I was just looking at posting the very same thing. Can't find a picture of any online though.

Serendipity doo dah...

Here's another: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/topic/424042-printing-error-books/?do=findComment&comment=10974382

It was all down hill after the title really...

DC aren't the most loved I find, or expensive. They're easily the least popular of the UKPVs too, if my journal page views are anything to go by. You'll have to keep working I'm afraid.