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What was the truth KJ - I spent at least half an hour trying to guess!

You bought them all on a previous St Patricks day after 15 pints of Guinness and thought #83 was #35?

For my Amazing Adventures Miller set (all 10c printed copies), #1 and 4 aren't stamped and my #2 & 3 each have a different price stamp - #2 is a 9d and bizarrely #3 a 6d. They're just two of the mysteries of the Miller Marvels - how many of the 10c priced copies have no UK price stamps at all and for those that do, the different types of stamps and prices extant. Very inconsistent, on Marvel, was Miller.

If they want that purely to evidence what exists Paqart, send them this summary instead: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/blogs/entry/4922-marvel-1999-~-2000-us-newsstand-price-variants/

Afternoon It's been raining most of today so I've been pottering a bit, dipping in and out of files. Have I ever listed the possible Marvel magazine price variants? I've done the comics and the Treasuries but I'm not sure if I've posted anything about magazines. Anyway, one such title is Marvel Super Special (formerly Marvel Comics Super Special) which ran for 41 issues between 1977-1986. With the comic UKPV cover date window being May 1960 to December 1981, it's possible a few magazine sized UKPVs may have crept in. My magazine size research - mostly done long ago, and by no means exhaustive - found only two potential UKPVs within the overall 41 Super Specials set. Here's a summary. Marvel Comics Super Special #1-4: Close Encounters #3 (1978) has an apparent 60p UKPV. When compared to images of the US version, everything but the price appears to be the same, and the price appears to be printed, albeit fairly crudely: Oddly perhaps, no UK copy seems to exist for #4, The Beatles Marvel Super Special #5-41: Battlestar Galactica #8 (1978) – 50p stickered copies seem to exist in reasonable numbers in the UK. There appear to be 3 different US versions of this magazine - here are the US and 'UK' examples: So no UKPV there it seems, just a stickered US issue (albeit I don't own a copy to inspect it closer and see what is under the sticker - it might say 60p for all I know) The Savage Sword of Conan #9 (1978) has a £1.00 repackaged reprint with a different UK back cover and front cover dressing: So no UKPV there it seems. I wonder why they did it that way, and not the 'Close Encounters' way? For Your Eyes Only #19 (1978) is our second apparent 75p UKPV - on this everything is the same except the printed price: Same barcode details and same US indicia: The first dual priced Super Special is #27, Return of The Jedi (1983), and from then on all copies have joint UK pricing: One curio is this UK only title, Werewolf #nn (Undated) which, at 45p, reprints Marvel Spotlight #4. I include it for reference only because it has a 'Marvel Super Special' cover title: So, 41 issues in the title, 2 actual UKPVs (both in the comic UKPV date window), a sticker and a repackaged issue. Did I miss anything? (and why do I get the nagging feeling that I've already posted all this?)

Hence: US Price Variants (30/35c, $2.29/2.49) UK Price Variants (pence) Canadian Price Variants ($Can) Australian Price Variants ($Aus)

Look everyone! It's a Miller! I'd love to run through your collection Albert. I bet there's some gems hiding in there.

One where the hologram doesn't cover the character art please

No, I don't think I've seen that one before Albert. Funny little thing isn't it. Like a T&P stamp minus the number and with a smaller price font that is not dissimilar to the early printed UKPV prices. Is it a Miller indicia copy?

It's an easy subset to miss. Some owners wouldn't know what they had, and not note the submission form, and some CGC staff haven't got this pinned up on their noticeboard: I don't know how their system works, but once a variant is discovered I would engineer the internal CGC process to flag that up at some point in the data entry process to prompt the consideration before the book is encapsulated - a "This book has variants" flag might cut down on some of the missed distinctions. Maybe that is part of the process though, and human error overrides it. You see the same thing with slabbed second printings. Sometimes the omissions are costly for the seller, but that's life isn't it. Knowledge is power....

Good man Ganni! 103: Sooner or later someone will notice the intentional 'reprint' nomenclature on this and dive in.....

Morning Werner I understand where the sentiment of what you are saying comes from. Please, let me see if I can change your view. First, have a read of my explanation here regarding differentiating the first printing UK Price Variants (as I call them) from the locally produced publications and reprints of non-US countries. It's half way down the page: https://www.cgccomics.com/boards/blogs/entry/5028-john-morlars-journal-summary-page-or-how-to-tell-a-uk-price-variant-that-you-dont-love-her-anymore/ Additionally, Marvel printed copies for distribution in three other countries during its lifetime - the UK, Canada and Australia - hence the terms UK/Canadian/Australian Price Variants that are used by many and recently adopted by CGC. In each case, the copies were run at some point during the original US copy printing event. So this pence copy... ....this Canadian copy.... ....and this Australian copy.... .....were all printed at the same time, in the same place, on the same printers as the original US copies prior to being shipped to their respective country destinations for distribution. They are variants because they are a small subset of the original US print state/run and 'price variant' is the shortest description we can use without clouding the issue and having to use a whole load of additional words to 100% inform their production nature. The price difference is the salient point, hence "Price Variant". So we have: US Price Variants (30/35c, $2.29/2.49) UK Price Variants (pence) Canadian Price Variants ($Can) Australian Price Variants ($Aus) That's it - there are no others in respect of original US comics. No French, no German, No Filippino. One of the reasons I personally pushed CGC to adopt this terminology is that they were in the habit of labelling both first printing UK Price Variants and locally produced UK publications as "UK Editions". This, in my mind, further fuelled the incorrect assumption held by many still that the UK Price Variants as I call them were reprints. They are not. This is a variant, as it was printed at the same time, in the same place as the standard US original copy: This isn't a variant, as it was printed at a later time, in a later location, under license by a different country: In terms of labelling, it is 'Spider-Man Comics Weekly' #130. It is not a variant of Amazing Spider-Man #96. And it is not a "UK Edition" as that implies there is a US equivalent somewhere - there isn't. The US never printed Spider-Man Comics Weekly. So it is its own thing, needing no additional clarification. Some people like to overcomplicate things with oceans of sub-divisions. I don't. Crudely, there are books from the original print state, and there is everything else. Books from the original print state can be subdivided as variants, with the destination country and associated price being the salient factors. Everything else, wherever it was printed, is its own thing. If CGC adopted this strategy overall, with a short note indicating things like "Reprints content from the US publication Amazing Spider-Man #96" on non-US publications, then everything, over time, would become so much clearer I think. Anyway, a long attempt to clarify a relatively simple premise, once the basics land in the mind. Let me know if this changes your thinking in any way!

Chaykin Stevens

This ole Spidey's getting shaky, this ole Spidey's getting old...

I used to own these:

Snuck in the 'Whitmans' there I see Eric.....

I sold my 181 for a thousand pounds about 5 years ago. I could be annoyed that I could now get four times that figure but then when do you sell? If I'd held on until now, and sold it for four thousand would I be annoyed in 5 years time if it then went up to ten? If we worry too much about missing out on future top dollar we'll never sell anything. And sometimes you have to sell. The only ones that bug me are the ones you've had for ever which increase in value by a miniscule amount or not at all. Every fibre of your comic knowledge and experience tells you they will never escalate. So you sell. And they escalate. Often, beyond all reason. Those ones can be annoying.

Paging @cansomebodyelseanswerthepencequestionforonceplease

I'm pleased to be able to laugh at that comment, Albert. It's been a long day my flat-capped friend....

Albert, you are a man of rare insight and nuance! Internal front covers - the Miller copy advert & US indicia details are raised to accommodate the Miller distribution blurb: Internal back covers - same position!

A bit late, Albert, but we aim to please. And besides, you've got me intrigued. I'm going to dig out these two... ... and see if the back internal covers are the same or whether the Miller one is in a higher position than the US copy in line with the front interior. Both copies have similar front cover positioning yet the Miller interior is clearly raised to accommodate the Miller blurb when compared to the non-Miller copy. The back interior will either be raised as well, or in the same position as the US copy in which case the printers would only have raised the one page. Won't be long...

It was fun while it lasted Spud

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