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Yep, my own policy is always that it remains unproven until I've seen it myself or have photographic evidence.

...updated summary for TTA 16 It's looking like all Cents copies include the T&P indicia line. If so, we're down to three variants only, and a question mark over why the font difference exists (if it is not related to copies run off for the UK market). I'll keep digging.....

Here's a table I put together to make the TTA 16 variants clearer. We have 3 confirmed variants so far. Could anyone who owns a copy check their indicia pages and let me know if I can add any more to the chart please (e.g. Tall Font with no T&P indicia line) ? Cheers

Ok, wish me luck - first attempt at posting images! Tales To Astonish #16 Variants 9d Pence Copy [/img] 10c Copy (Tall Font) 10c Copy (Tall Font) Indicia with T&P Distributor Line Does anyone have a TTA 16 cents copy with no T&P indicia line?

Would someone be able to do that compare thing? The 1st copy is almost certainly a UK "original owner" copy. WE need to see the indicia. Amazingly, a copy has just appeared on ebay showing the indicia with a Thorpe & Porter line. T&P tta 16 I've just realised that TTA 16 has a 9d price variant. If there is a cents version without the T&P indicia line the there will be three versions: Cents price / no T&P indicia line Cents price with T&P indicia line Pence price At least......

Sorry Ewan, that should read YOU have discovered a new variant line. Credit where credits due!

I like it Ewan. I've never liked CGCs "UK Edition" myself. I prefer "Pence Copy ". If you call the US copies cents then you may as well call UK versions pence. My research only relates to the Marvel copies which all rolled off the presses together in the US at the same time, not reprints. I'll keep investigating and see if any other Cents copies with UK indicias turn up. If they do, and there are also versions without the UK indicia addition , then we have indeed happened across a new set of variants. Until we have copies in our hands / internal scans, we'll need more research before we can call up font variants - it may be that they are the cents with uk indicias. .... all good fun

Would someone be able to do that compare thing? The 1st copy is almost certainly a UK "original owner" copy. WE need to see the indicia. Amazingly, a copy has just appeared on ebay showing the indicia with a Thorpe & Porter line. T&P tta 16

Thanks. It is definitely a newly discovered variant. But yes, has anyone got another GS no.63 to show the indicia pls? L Miller / T&P / Alan Class all shared printing and distribution resources over the 1950s and early 1960s. However, it is a good point. Unfortunately this is the only example I've seen so far - but I recall seeing stickered 9d cents comics previously. I've got a cents Gunsmoke 63 on order so should be able to confirm the indicia status in the next few days. I'll then try out some more at upcoming fairs, although many dealers aren't too happy when you ask to look inside a book you don't intend to buy just for research. If we can find a few more we can start to build a picture.

......but if they were the guy doing it was very consistent in his placing! And does that second image have the little star stamp we some times see on bronze Mark Jewellers copies? Bit of help please - can I not add an image to a post direct from my computer so that the actual image shows in the post, rather than the URL link?

Two more links - this time to Tales To Astonish #16 - both lifted from Ebay, both 10c copies but with completely different fonts. Maybe they were applied by hand? TTA 16 TTA 16 2

I think you're onto something here. I saw your Gunsmoke variant in the other post and have been pondering it. What is odd is that it's indicia says L Miller , not Thorpe & Porter. All online evidence suggests that Miller only did reprints and T & P were the sole distributors of Marvel originals. I'm planning to do some investigating on this and will report back. What is clear is that, as long as there is a cents priced Gunsmoke 63 without the L Miller indicia, then we have identified a new strand of variant. The debate would have to be what we call them . Really interesting stuff and, with the JIM example, a potential load of under the radar variants. I'll see what I can find out.

Thanks for adding the pics - I haven't worked out how to add them direct from my pc yet. Looks like you can't. I find these little printing quirks fascinating. Any reason to mess about with comics is a good reason I guess...

Not seeing much difference. Possibly just random variation in how the different colors were laid down on the page caused the size of the white box to vary a bit? There is 100 % ABSOLUTELY a difference in type used! Nice find. I checked out some back issues of it on Heritage and there are examples of both so I'm not sure there's a huge rarity on one over the other. Pretty interesting. I agree, the difference is palpable. So, why would the price size change midway through a print run? People have speculated which were printed first - Cents or pence - maybe they printed some cents, then changed the plate to pence, then back again with a different cents template. Maybe there was a second printing. Maybe the printing press broke. Will we ever know.....

......it's amazing what you spot when hunting down pence variants....

Thanks!

Hello. I'm new in town, so apologies if the two links below don't work, or if the subject veers too far into the obscure to warrant anyone else being interested. What they should show is two different copies of JIM #65 with what appear to be different size 10c prices in their respective white boxes: www.ebay.com www.ebay.com Looking at other copies, the size of the 10c does seem to fluctuate.... Anyone else intrigued?