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#1 seem questionable as it offer no explanation for cert numbers. Unless you are stating there are now multiple Hulk 181's for example, with same cert numbers? if that was the case by now an example or 10 would have been caught and displayed here or Social media. #3 while certainly in conspiracy range is only one that explains everything found. Then again a hallmark of any good conspiracy is something that with a causal glance explains everything on the surface that the observer desires to see...

I've no idea of that but was able to obtain an image of the perp

Fair point. More of Fish in Barrel statements on my part. We have apologists here who insisted there would be a response prior to Christmas weekend Apologists will now probably insist CGC will respond before New Years weekend - well those folks can keep clutching; CGC will not respond this week, nor next week, nor next month, nor 1st quarter 2024... The only way CGC/Blackstone makes a statement, or even begins an investigation, is if the flow of submissions sublimates downward. Even then Blackstone may still simply sell CGC once certain profit thresholds are negatively breached and execs begin to fear their large bonus' might be impacted by even a dime. Therefore entirely plausible as long as Blackstone owns CGC nothing will be said or done. Remember folks Blackstone's ownership (via sum of their actions) is a somewhat textbook pump and dump.

Prediction for Today Dec 26, 2023: NO Statement from CGC! No Actions by CGC Today! Prediction for Remainder of week, Dec 27,28 and 29 2023: NO Statement from CGC! No Actions by CGC! CGC will continue to be sent and receive submissions unabated and those Benji's will keeps rollin' in. So why would they ever say anything... Thus far all my predication's in this matter have been 100% correct

The more I think about this situation the more I feel CGC missed or ignored every single Distant Early Warning, and we all new see the tip of the iceberg.

At this juncture probably safer to assume not legit. Sadly this type of thing is one of those CGC was formed to prevent. Or so I recall from around 2000

I meesed up , yes Dark Mansions is correct. Super Jr very difficult. I got lucky...

Seller has poor feed back and book at best is 9.4 - given that seems like they did rather well. IMHO who purchased it at $1175 needs to learn the hobby better.

Except in this case the correct metaphor would be; Bad Actor Figured out how to roll the odometer back then sends vehicle back to the auto company where they auto company performs the work of rolling it back. Thus a Civil suit against the Auto Company for gross negligence at the very least, could easily make it into a courtroom. Of course the Auto Industry is Regulated, Collectible grading is not, thus somewhat apples to oranges.

I could definitively see the following books for example taking hits unless they are in a Gen 1 or Gen 2 slab: ASM 238 All Newsstand versions ASM 252 All Newsstand versions ASM 300 All Newsstand versions Hulk 181 Regular and Mark Jewelers Hulk 340 All Newsstand versions New Mutants 98 All Newsstand versions Feel free to add to above list. Sadly folks like me who have clean self-submitted books on the list would be hurt as well in event we go to sell. CGC's parent company has less than zero care with aftermarket sales, unless it's book they can brag about on their Home page like Detective 27 or Amazing Fantasy 15. It's important to remember this is a pump and dump by Blackstone. IF profits trend down below what ever their already determined threshold they will simply sell off CGC.

While you are correct that it should occur, 1-6 ain't never happening. #5 IRS? The scammer is getting their paypouts from services that report, at least eBay and Paypal do, thus IRS could not care less how the income is made as long as they get every single cent of their money. As for 7, and as much as it pains for me to say this would not have occurred with their current slabs.

yeps, I've been saying pretty much that all thread. Next Fish-In-A-Barrel Prediction: Zero response from CGC this current week, the week of Dec 24, 2023

4 Decades of experience with Comic Dealers, Flippers and Speculators makes my tongue in cheek comment well within plausible range. The cries of "It's a Newsstand baby" from those folks tonight will drown out Santa...

They are trying to dump the books on rubes via Social Media. Likely at just below "FMV" and accepting Friends n Family only type payments. on a different note I do wonder if Borack is chuckling over this?

Agreed! Shareholders have the right to be very very pissed! Gunn needed to keep his big gob shut until early Jan 2024. Zaslov also to blame for not reigning him in. Shareholders and the board will now need pound or 2 of flesh...If Gunn fails to produce a HUGE revenue generator from the get-go seems like he's whom the TWD Board will target. They may very well be sharpening their axes... P.S. Reasons aside, fact is; Having been employed by TWD the entirety of this year, the only studio Gunn actually made money for in 2023 was Disney!

Sad to hear that you got taken in, but glad you are coming forth!

I like your thinking, however the chances of that are less than 0

Plot doth thicken..extending to the #2 career NFL passing touchdowns leader

Zero chance, It's actually a measured and ensured revenue stream for them. The eBay exec's who collect 7 and 8 figure bonus' however can and will strong-arm, threaten and haress any they have reason to believe will affect a single penny of those bonus'; https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ex-ebay-exec-heading-prison-harassing-couple-behind-newsletter-2022-09-29/ Two former eBay Inc (EBAY.O) executives were sentenced to prison on Thursday for carrying out a campaign to harass and intimidate a Massachusetts couple through threats and disturbing home deliveries after their online newsletter drew the ire of eBay's then-CEO. Jim Baugh and David Harville were sentenced to 57 and 24 months in prison, respectively, for their roles in an extensive harassment campaign that involved sending the couple cockroaches, a funeral wreath and a bloody Halloween pig mask. U.S. District Judge Saris, who imposed the sentences during hearings in Boston, called it a "hard-to-imagine" scheme fueled by a "toxic culture" at the Silicon Valley e-commerce company.

Given there is ZERO QC totally agreed. Thats 2 times in 2 days, end of world is nigh... If the issue in this thread is ever even addressed by CGC, and I still thinking it won't be, the simplest solution that ultimately increases their revenue without additional expense is no more mutants re-holders, re-submissions only. IMHO logically we are barely in tip of the iceberg territory.

This was not from Vane's collection. Vane's was a Direct Sale. This one is a Newsstand. Love the Andru/Giordano art on the Villains on both front and back covers

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Sadly I know many people who think that's good rating

A CGC re-verification submission offering at same cost as regular subs. CGC win$ again eBay could enact same Verification Program as they do Trading Cards but that will only push the bad actors elsewhere. Stefan, seem you'll need to stay away from the common books used in the scam. IMHO the Day of DC Digests has now arrived

That brings up an interesting question @ThothAmon is it a crime, that you know of, if ultimately you sell a fraudulent item to yourself?