jimbo_7071

On 6/1/2024 at 11:22 AM, Professor K said:

Wow that looks like at least a 9.0. The spine alone looks well over 9.0. That cover. Why would a rich guy have a sign like that on him? But he does look nicely dressed so maybe.  Nice over the top cover.  My books were the National 7 and the Ghostly Weird Stories 122. 

Those creases in the lower right corner are what keep it to an 8.0.

Maybe he isn't rich; maybe he's a guinea pig so they can perfect the technique before using it on the rich guys.

Did you consign your books early or late? Books that get consigned late sometimes go very cheap on C-Link because buyers either don't see them or have targeted other books.

On 6/1/2024 at 7:44 AM, vheflin said:

Your little emoji looks like he would have fun bouncing around on those things.

On 5/30/2024 at 12:35 AM, Professor K said:

Thanks. I'm going to head over to the Fox thread so as not to interfere with all the Heritage/Books that almost no one can afford talk. 

But on the downside for the average collector it's few and far between to get anything there without paying more than you oughta. I just sold 2 GA books I got on Heritage on Clink. Massive loss on both. 

What books? Just curious.

On 5/30/2024 at 12:06 PM, tth2 said:

Why would you do that?  That's like buying a diamond at Cartier and then trying to resell it at a pawn shop.  In the OA forum, we joke that Clink is the last place in comics that bargains can still be found.  Which means it can be a lousy place for consignors.

I guess the way to get deals is to put in low-ball bids on a bunch of books and hope that other bidders don't show up on one or two of them. The chances of getting a deal aren't great if you target a particular book. I just paid $4,850 plus tax and shipping for this one—3.7 times guide. I wanted a Novick cover in 8.0 or above for my artist type set, so I can live with the price. I'm sure the consignor was happy. I don't think the book would have gone for much more on Heritage, and the commission would have been bigger.

ETA: I guess this comic predicted the future. The woman is about to become an unwilling cornea donor for the benefit of a rich old man, and there have been many reports worldwide of poor people and political prisoners in developing countries being killed in order to supply organ transplants for rich people.

https://brighterworld.mcmaster.ca/articles/analysis-killing-prisoners-for-transplants-forced-organ-harvesting-in-china/

On 5/28/2024 at 3:55 PM, cstojano said:

I am all fine with definitions and usages changing over time but to me the BWS Conan run uses splash pages in the sense of the original use of the term. 

I didn't know that dealers were trying to bend the definition of "splash" page, but I'm not surprised. They also call anything that has less than 1,000 universal copies in the census "rare," so there you go.

To me a splash a) has to be the first page of a story and b) has to take up the entire page. 

On 5/31/2024 at 2:11 PM, Silver Surfer said:

What a steal. That book would look sweet in a mylar.

I was watching that one myself but decided I'd rather save my money for something else. That's how I usually feel about westerns, even nice ones.

Pig to a man who strongly resembles one.

On 5/31/2024 at 8:47 AM, Grendel72 said:

Haha...so long u neva take the preserved mummy out of the sarcophagus, it will never turn to dust so easily. 

. . . unless you drop the slab. 

On 5/31/2024 at 5:51 AM, Grendel72 said:

Based on the positive sales of brittle pages in the recent comic link auctions, are collectors changing their perceptions ? I knew a time when PLODs were reviled. 

Aren't PLODs still reviled? I wouldn't bid on a PLOD.

I don't think perceptions of brittle pages will change. Dust will never be that collectible.

On 5/27/2024 at 10:02 PM, gadzukes said:

This comic is worth it just for the dialogue on the cover.

The dialogue on the cover is a big part of what I dislike about the book; it's very misogynistic. I also don't like books that depict realistic domestic violence. Those are the reasons why I got rid of my copy years ago.

My mother was almost killed by an abuse boyfriend who broke her nose; the doctor told her that if he'd been 1/4 of an inch closer to her when he hit her, she would have died, so I have a strong negative reaction to scenes of domestic violence on books—unless the woman is about to be rescued or the artwork is drawn in such a way that it's more goofy than realistic, such as on Crime Suspenstories 22. (The realism without any mitigating sense of absurdity is why CS 19 bothers me but 22 doesn't.)

People can collect whatever they want to; there are just certain kinds of covers that I can do without in my own collection.

On 5/28/2024 at 4:08 PM, Fischb1 said:

As the hobby grows and the really good stuff becomes very hard to make someone move, the next stuff down also grows in price (supply and demand). Some stuff will move temporarily (caution here), and some stuff will move permanently. The game is either A) Figure out which is which or, B) Just buy what you love!

What I'm seeing is that there's not enough differentiation between the good pieces and the mediocre pieces. The good pieces are still undervalued but the mediocre pieces are, if anything, overvalued. People are just buying "whatever" without discriminating enough. It makes me think that the OA market must be flooded with newbies.

On 6/28/2023 at 10:00 AM, Drgoldage said:

You put it much more succinctly than I did but agree suspect that the Planet comics 5 was the last book he/she needed to complete an early run and price was no object . Later when I saw the nicer Planet 5 come up for auction I thought for sure the same individual would outbid me but that didn’t happen . He or she had their Planet 5 and that’s all that matters didn’t need an upgrade . In any case don’t mind the Heritage system gives me the chance to buy a book I missed and occasionally provides me with an unexpected windfall .

I don't know where the "upgrade" mentality comes from. I have been collecting for 40 years and have never upgraded a book. I generally don't buy a copy unless I'm happy with it, so why would I upgrade?

I do have a few books that turned out to be a little rougher in hand than what I was hoping for or that have particular defects that bug me, so I have a few books that I would upgrade were the right copy to come along at the right price, but even with those books, upgrading is a very low priority.

I guess I don't think like the number-in-the-corner chasers.

Web to web.

On 5/27/2024 at 5:34 PM, zen514 said:

Your 82k estimate could happen but most likely many flippers and buyers would pounce on it.

 

Now your new estimate of  100-150k is  more reasonable. Once again just my opinion.

Neither of those was my estimate. Someone else must have mentioned $82K; I'd probably be a little north of that, but not much. 

$100–$150 is a range that I see as possible depending on who's bidding, but that would be a very good result for the seller. The seller should be thrilled if the book goes over $100K. Coverless copies are not that hard to come by, and the pool of interested buyers is far more limited than it would be for a complete beater.

On 5/26/2024 at 1:35 PM, Chicago Boy said:

I think they are worth an extra 10 %. Creator or Publisher File Cooy 

I usually bid less for file copies because I know they're not going to be very fresh. (The Harvey file copies are so bad that I don't even bid on those.)

On 5/27/2024 at 11:33 AM, woowoo said:

Well, I guess we all agree that ether one would be nice to have.

I think like @jimbo_7071 says the price on both crossed the line and the bidders parachute never opened and they paid high.

I just don't see any way you get 57k back on the Action 1 page brittle?

I don't see getting 222k back on Detective 27 cover unless you have the insides, it's not going to be a blue label but will be nice to own.

I guess paying 222k for cover 150k for insides than 10k for someone to join them and grade you than paid 382k for a Detective 27 complete THAN it sounds like a good deal but there is a lot of ifs.

I also think it does not matter what it grades Detective 27 in low grade .5 to 4.0 restored or Qualified will sell high.

I do own a Detective 27 but since I was 20 I always thought it was a better book to own than Action 1 and these last few years Batman has always been more popular than Superman.

I am only using IMO and holding nothing against Action 1 that I would love to own. Look at FF 1 vs Fantasy 15 both great books but Spiderman wins IMO.

I work in education, and from what I've witnessed, among the younger people who could be the comic collectors of tomorrow (if there are any!), Spider-Man is far more popular than Batman, who is the only D.C. character who gets any attention at all. D.C.'s Superman and Marvel's Captain America are both utterly passé. You can't deny Superman's importance to the hobby, but eventually it will only be a tiny group of comic book übergeeks who care.

On 5/27/2024 at 8:40 AM, zen514 said:

Jimbo wants 84k  when  Ac Page 1 brittle sold for 56k

 

Does someone want to buy this Holy Grail for cheap🤔

 

 

I'm not in the market for any single pages or coverless copies. If I ever win the lottery (which I don't play—but I've been given lottery tickets as gifts before), then I may buy a complete Tec 27 some day.

All bets are off with auction items because of bidding wars. It only takes 2 bidders to drive any item sky high. The price on the Action 1 page was bizarre. I'd be more interested in knowing where the third-highest bidder was. I suspect he or she was far below the buyer and the underbidder, but only that bidder and the auction-house insiders know for sure.

The coverless copy could hit $100K or even $150, but the price that the cover sold for shouldn't be the basis for the estimate. A bigger factor is whether the bidders are collectors who want the book for their own collections or flippers who need room for a profit. I would think that the flippers would be more cautious, but who knows for sure.

On 5/26/2024 at 6:45 AM, zen514 said:

Next time it sells it will sell for

more than 222k. 

 

That's your opinion only, for what it's worth—which is to say, nothing.

That's possible, but it still has nothing to do with the valuation of a (front) coverless book. That's my opinion, also worth nothing.

Complete Tec 27 covers are far more rare than coverless copies. That's not opinion, that's a fact.

You can't infer the value of a relatively common item based on the sales price of a much scarcer item. That's simple logic.

On 5/25/2024 at 8:00 PM, misterrmystery said:

Thanks. I have mixed feelings but have been thinking about it for quite a while.

The hobby has gotten too expensive and wouldn't want to leave it to my wife to deal with, should anything happen to me.

I think you're getting out at the right time since you have a wife. So many baby boomers will be getting out over the next 10—20 years that moving books for good prices could start to become more difficult. It's hard to walk away from a hobby, but from a financial standpoint, it's the safe move. I've been thinking more and more about setting a deadline for myself to stop putting money in, meaning that I'd have to sell some books if I wanted to buy others.

On 5/18/2024 at 5:18 PM, MrBedrock said:

 

On 5/18/2024 at 5:20 PM, grendel013 said:

THAT'S AWESOME!

Is that Grandpa Jones? He had a song about a dog. Sometimes I play it for my students as a joke.

On 5/25/2024 at 9:16 AM, zen514 said:

Tec 27 coverless with back cover  

with cover only Selling for 222k and actions comics 1  page 1 only brittle for 58k

 

150k seems a fair estimate

Have there been other examples of covers only selling for that sort of price, or is that a one-off? If they're consistently selling for that, O.K., but it doesn't make sense to base a valuation on that sale if it's an outlier.

Youthful Hearts to Dear Lonely Heart.

Lever (in Albion) to lover 'er & leave 'er all by her lonesome.

Sam's head to Hallahan's head.

Flashlight to candle.