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Well... this has finally gotten to the point of ridiculousness.  Stu, your beliefs in your own self importance is completely unfounded and a little pathetic. You really need to get professional help. Redd, see my suggestion for Stu.  Logan, thanks for the PMs regarding these bozos. RMA, your reply’s give them an iota of “power” and only reinforce their delusions.  You shouldn’t even waste your time replying to these guys.  

I’m out. Y’all STUpid. 

On 2/23/2018 at 9:12 AM, seanfingh said:

George - that is magnificent!!!  And I have to tell you, it may be the biggest blessing that Miller was left off.  He was stamping his hand in the ink to create a "speed effect" and it is very possible that CGC would have not awarded the 9.9 if he had signed it. Sometimes mistakes are benefits . . .

I would have lept across the table and murdered him. The way celebrities and creators treat our books sometimes.  Like Carrie Fisher sprinkling glitter on books and people. Ugh. 

Dearest @NiceTryGuy and @SueStu,
Since you are obviously the same person, I'm going to kindly as that you please (for the love of the gods) go away.  Your inability to comprehend sarcasm, rational thought, and your own hypocrisy, combined with this personal vendetta thing you have going on against RMA is mindbogglingly boring - and honestly a waste of ALL of our time.  I've reported your post and IP to the Admins.  Please spend the rest of your trolling days in YouTube comments where you belong - not here. 
Sincerely, the ENTIRE board.

On 2/28/2018 at 6:54 AM, subash said:

Thanks but have been unable to find anyone so far--even CGCs Phillipines Rep said that there would be no CGC presence at the Con.Praying that Stan gets well soon

The last I heard was that Stan Lee will NOT be at that show. There was a problem with be Con organizer. 

If you're not going to intelligently contribute to the discussion about why Rob Liefeld has decided that CGC is not worth his time or the merits (and lack thereof) for up charging  for signatures on books that will be sent to CGC, then you can start your own thread, somewhere else.  If you just want to sit an eat popcorn, have at it, but put the keyboard down while you do so.  Thanks.

13 minutes ago, reddwarf666222 said:

You still lost your argument

... because he made a point about something off topic and unrelated?  Wow.  The mental gymnastics you must perform to get through your daily life is astounding. Perfect 10’s, bro. 

8 hours ago, TooBadSoSad said:

I guess they need to grow up and get a real job 

 

... not the point at all.  Good job missing everything said over the last 122 comments. Bravo. 

15 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said:

John Denver - Rocky Mountain High (video/youtube)

This is my fault... I'm sorry... I need glasses.

3 minutes ago, reddwarf666222 said:

They have been tricked in your mind. You are not being confrontational more of entitled feeling coming from you.

I guess we know who's swallowed the blue pill, and who's swallowed the red pill here.  (And who's read the entire thread, and who hasn't)

5 hours ago, Celestial Comics said:

It is the “right” of the creator to charge IF that is what they choose to do.

As for are we a facilitator who “encourages” creators to “charge extra” for CGC? The answer is we “RESPECT” the creator’s rights and decision to want to charge a fee. It is THEIR right and THEIR decision to charge a fee. We don’t encourage or discourage it. We simple RESPECT it. We make nothing more from a creator who chooses to charge a fee, we simply pass the same charge onto the customer.

Just as it is YOUR right to choose NOT to pay the fee and to walk away from getting you items signed. And we RESPECT that right as well.

What you DON’T have a right to do, is LIE to a creator when he asks you the question if the book he is signing will be graded or not. It is because of actions like that, that has caused creators to do what they do, such as using specific facilitators or handlers to PROTECT them.

If we brought our own witness from the CGC booth, would we be allowed to just ask for a signature at the "signature only" rate then? 
Because if the creator thinks that they can charge the extra fee to people who CGC their books because it creates extra work for them, then by that logic if I DID ALLTHE WORK INVOLVED MYSELF, then I should be able to get the signature at the lower cost, right? 

The point that's trying to be made here is that the creators have been TRICKED into thinking that people who slab their books are all selling those items on eBay.  They've also been tricked into thinking that they are ENTITLED a share of the profits from any possible future sale of a slabbed book.  Does the person who painted your house get a share of the profit from final sale price when you sell it down the line?  No. They charge you the price to paint everything and they reap thier profits from THAT pool of cash, not ask for a second stab at it because you MIGHT sell the house. 

I agree that they should be able to charge more IF AND ONLY IF they make special arrangements for something like a "private signing" or something like Todd McFarlane or Jim Lee often does - there is an obvious additional cost involved there.  But if they DO charge more, they should be charging EVERYONE more, not just slabbers.  Just because I want to have my book graded for longevity, authenticity, and display, what is supposed to entitle a creator to extra profit on that item? Why should you get a slice of the profit?  And that's THE ONLY other possible rationale that they could be using to charge more to sign their name on a book that is going to be graded.  That's not really how is supposed to work, and that's not how it worked for the first 10-15 years that CGC existed, why has it suddenly changed?  Your blind support of this as their "right" to charge one person more for the exact same thing is wrong-headed and complicit.  

I'm not trying to be confrontational, I'm just trying to condense the conversation down a little so it's easier to understand how these creators have been tricked by not being challenged on this practice.  It's allowed the LIE to persist.  That's all.

On 3/7/2018 at 4:00 PM, Rich_Henn said:

ACTION COMICS #1000-----this is a big one.  There are going to be a BUNCH of variant covers for these, including several LCS specific covers.  I'm offering just one flat price for each cover, to add as many signatures as I can onto the book without it becoming ugly from all the sharpie.   Because the book itself comes out just after C2E2 (which is unfortunate, a number of sigs could be obtained there).....I'll probably be starting the line up of sigs sometime in May, going through to Heroes in June and possibly wrapping up at SDCC.   I'll keep you updated on the signatures applied but the targets are Jim Lee, Dan Jurgens, George Perez, Brian Bendis, Steranko, Marv Wolfman, Louise Simonson, Paul Dini, Bruce Timm ---anyone I can find in relation to the book or Superman mythology.

No less than five signatures per book would be ideal.

I'm going to start by promoting my own LCS cover variant by Kaare Andrews

Action Comics #1000 (Third Eye/ Kaare Andrews variant) - $175  signatures will vary but will try to maintain a healthy selection of the above. Hopefully I'll see Kaare at a show and can add him too.

Blue universal 9.8 optional - $95

When will we see the final trade dress of this posted?  Or is this a "Virgin" ?

Oh gosh... I can’t believe I’m commenting on this... I must be a glutton for punishment...

You’re both right... and you’re both wrong.

RockyMountain... in the definition for Third-Degree Discrimination simply substitute “groups” for markets and the definition works. The “who” the “groups” are sorted into is one for resellers vs collectors. At least that’s how it is in the minds of the creators who upcharge for CGC.  I realize that’s not a whole accurate way to group people in line for a signature, but that’s what they are doing and that’s why people understand the rationale behind it. Wrong headed or otherwise. 

Kevhtx... and regardless of the group or market that the person waiting in line belongs to, it doesn’t change the physical action by the creator, it costs him nothing additional to write his signature on a book I plan to sell or a book I plan to have slabbed.  So, why should they get to charge me more if they don’t have to do an ounce more work?  They are making a biased assumption about my intent and their asking for part of any future and potential profits. What if a Con organizer asked top-tier creators to pay more for each of their booths and get a percentage of sales generated at the booth, but cosplayers/inkers/self-publishers paid the “normal” rate because they don’t generate as many ticket sales for the con?  That’s what RockyMountain is arguing.  (BTW, his airline ticket analogy was briliant.)

For BOTH Rocky & Kev... Now, if the creator has gone to the trouble to hire someone to handle all the CGC submissions for books they sign (and CGC has granted exclusive rights of submission for that creators team), then by all means they gotta pay that person somehow. I’d rather see creators going to more conventions than less conventions. If facilitator-managers like Doug Peters make that more possible, but charge a fee to cover the increased expenses, then that’s what we have to contend with.

Like any great debate there is never a simple, single-faceted solution. It’s gotta be attacked on multiple levels. That’s a discussion for a completely different thread though. 

***please have mercy on my soul and honor my courage for stepping in between you two with my comments***

3 hours ago, 1p36DSA said:

can't blame him with all these facilitators charging fees on top of CGC, anyone should be able to get anyone's signature witnessed by CGC without having to go through yet another person.

That’s a little dismissive of the whole reason facilitators exist.  I can’t personally attend any cons due to family obligations. So, a facilitator like Doug Peters or Rich Henn get me the signatures I want for my books. I don’t mind the few extra $$$ I have to throw their way to get my quad signed books.  If Rob wants a cut of THEIR profits too, then that’s a reall a-hole move. And “the other company” facilitators charge the same surcharge, so that doesn’t really make any sense. 

I’m wondering if this has anything to do with the Stan Lee/Max/Anastasia’s/Excelsior situation right now?  Or is this another situation where a fan screwed it up for the rest of us?  ... with Rob it seems to come down to getting paid for every little thing he does. I bet he wanted a kickback from each submitted slab (despite already charging for graded signatures) and CGC said no.  It sounds like EGO, and not like “business” as he claims it to be?

Yeah... He doesn't sign books anymore.  He's "out of the comic business" was the quote I heard from a huge facilitator. 

2 hours ago, Rich_Henn said:

Mera #1 ECCC Exclusive---foils.  We love 'em.  We hate 'em.  They always need work.

I'll throw out 5 spots to start, depending on how the quality is.

Blue universal $125 or s/s Artgerm at $145, but please inquire about signing----that will most likely happen over the summer.

Unless you want Abnet, which could be sooner.
 

... and these would be 9.8's?

Is that even an option?

Has the pricing for Boyega been finalized?  I might have a book I want to add him to. Enquiring minds want to know!!!

I've paid and sent both a message here AND an email to the sales department... I haven't heard ANYTHING back yet.  Can I get a reply PLEASE?!?!?

I will take a full body sketch. I would like to have it CGC’d when it’s complete. Payment sent ($265+4% G&S).  I will send my blank this week!  When is the deadline to receive our blanks?  When is the sketch opp happening?  Ooooo... so excited!!!!

Hey gang... are there any facilitators at Victoria Comic Con this weekend?  I have an overdue commission sketch that needs to get picked up and submitted to CGC. ? Let me know. Thanks. 

I'd contact the Scorpion Comics people... I believe they are closely affiliated with Todd directly, as in he's part OWNER of the shop or has some sort of equity deal with them.  I was told back in December that there is a signing in February or March with Todd.

An "ART" label or better yet an "OA" label would be SOOOOOO welcomed by CGC fans.  PLEASE!!!???!!!???

On 1/3/2018 at 6:42 AM, Rich_Henn said:

I don't have any Steranko books to offer at the moment, but I have a signing with him in February, just FYI if there's any books you have that need big Jim.

How much?