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Redshade
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4 minutes ago, Get Marwood & I said:
That's a very nice pence Porcupine which I know would find favour with a friend of mine
My understanding is no, you are not 'allowed' to post competitor slab images here. But in the last year or so I've seen a marked increase in references to competitors which do not get removed like they used to. Admin and moderation activity are seemingly at an all time low.
Maybe just post the comics Stephen, and trim off the slab labels from the pictures.
Sound advice as always Steve
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When the aforementioned five comics are returned to me they will be going onto a well known auction site along with other comics that I am selling.
As will Mr Porcupine when I gather a few more for slabbing, the postage being silly for just one item.
Would your friend be interested in this as it is? Everything has a price.
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Just showing off my latest acquisition but I also have a question. I have sent off five similarly broken out of the shell comics to the other place because like the seller I hate Newton rings. My question is : Can one post photos from the other place on this site?
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44 minutes ago, rakehell said:
Hmmm...
Trying to think of an overseas British Territory with a Spanish speaking population...
Anguilla? Gibraltar maybe?
Both very valid conjectures which prompted me to get the old atlas out.
I see that Belize, a British Colony bordering Mexico had English, Spanish and a local Creole as their official languages.
I suppose these could have been stamped in pence for sale in the Naafi but would British troops and civilian workers buy periodicals in Spanish when there surely would have been English language magazines present? I wonder if we'll ever know definitively.
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7 hours ago, rakehell said:
I think they probably paid some of them per stamp. Here's one from my collection:
It looks like one of the stampers took his stamping kit on holiday.
How on Earth did this happen?
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3 hours ago, gaz973 said:
One that I've just had to dig out of inventory for a customer. Always seemed funny that they stamped a book with the same price that it was already printed with.
Yes I've thought that myself when I've come across an instance of this (oddly enough usually on annuals). I've wondered if perhaps the "stamping operatives" were a little trigger happy or the comics weren't sorted properly and a few pence variants got mixed in with the cents ones?
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2 hours ago, rakehell said:
Here's an odd one...
Sounds like the seller is the one who had them bound.
Hmm! Nice. I don't usually go for bound volumes but if this had been all pence issues I might have been interested. Still worth consideration though at its current price although it's early days and that is *ahem* bound to change. Are you having a pop? If so I'll stand down. Just off to vote and do some shopping toodle pip.
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8 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:
I did thanks Stephen, yes. Very relaxing. I found an old shop on the coast and my God if it didn't have a load of old pence copies in a box on the floor. AF#15, ASM#1, Gorgo#6. I couldn't believe it. Shame I had to wake up really...
But it was a nice dream while it lasted
Yes, I know. Any excuse to post a picture though, eh? Especially one with a 'newsstand' price box and a 'direct edition' UPC.....
I was hoping to snag a 9d JIM#58 while I was away, having had one cruelly snatched from my grasp by a last minute off the books accepted offer a week earlier (don't you hate that? Especially when it's not you doing the offering?). Alas, I was then outbid on the second copy that surfaced. A bit like buses these books, they come along in pairs, after ten year waits:
I'll get one one day. Hopefully.
They are getting too expensive to take a chance on raw copies from civilian sellers where "an excellent looking comic" invariably turns out to be absolute $h*te.
I bagged this one at the weekend although it has not arrived yet. Someone somewhere really doesn't like NRs.
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3 hours ago, Get Marwood & I said:
Hello Steve. I trust that you had an enjoyable holiday?
Rakehell has already pointed this out. When I mentioned the barcode strike-through I should have mentioned that some had the Spidey face as well, although my point was that the vast majority of all pence editions were newsstand editions.
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48 minutes ago, rakehell said:
This is only really relevant for the tail end (late 70's early 80's?) of the single price pence variants. Prior to that, there was no direct market for comics in the UK. Not sure when the first dedicated comic shop opened here, but it was all newsstand in the early years.
Morning Rakehell.
You are quite right of course, I should have made my meaning more evident. Up until July 1979 all UK editions were newsstand editions. It was the very short period between then and the onset of dual pricing in Jan 1982 that UK pence variants had the barcode struck through identifying them as direct editions. What I meant to say was that the vast majority of all pence editions were newsstand editions. (I hope that that doesn't sound too pompous, I'm a bit foggy until my second cup of coffee
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On 5/5/2019 at 9:25 AM, Get Marwood & I said:
In the case of pence variants, the books themselves have been around for nearly 60 years! Whether it has taken 58 or 59 of them for the grading companies to catch up, I'm not too fussed. The fact that they are correctly labelling them now is the good news.
Forgive me if this has been pointed out but these UK Pence Variants were also newsstand editions. I hope this is also picked up on with the new nomenclature.
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30 minutes ago, Aman619 said:
as for the Batman cover. I think ANYONE could have reduced Batwoman's sign shape and added a few shading lines off to the right edge.
As I stated above there are thousands of examples in the GCD. I'm sorry Aman but I fear that this conversation is going nowhere. Good day sir.
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On 5/11/2019 at 2:55 AM, Aman619 said:
Problem for the UK here was that given their large masthead, the art area left over was very square. They couldn’t fit the vertical US cover artwork in the square box. Normally they just take what they were given and reduce the size to crop something out to fill the wider shorter area. But on this cover, they have to cut off the dead body, OR, Spidey! Looks like they ponied up the dough to have somebody add some artwork on the right.
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54 minutes ago, Aman619 said:
Im learning the GCD. But I don't really know which title I'm comparing covers for. I didn't find any with extra artwork because I didn't look very deeply, but I did match up thee 3 Tower comics covers reprint in Astounding Tales (Seems Alan Class had deals with many US publishers to reprint that he placed in this one title. These 3 Tower covers were all simply cropped from the US art he was given.
The answer may come down to how each US publisher supplied materials to other pubs. Either the final vertical US cover pasteups. or just a stat of the original art only, plus the US cover pasteup (with words, titles blurbs etc.). Tower sent US covers that had to be cropped. Charlton may have sent wider art stats that could fill the wider covers with art that was cropped in the US.
Hi Aman. I'm not sure what you are saying here? If you look closely at the UK reprints that you show it can be ascertained that there is slightly more artwork on them than the original US comics although I admit not as much as on the images that I supplied.
Alan Class being a pretty much one-man-band used many different printers and the comics were never a uniform size, some were taller/shorter or wider/thinner. I remember some issues that had gone to a different printer and the covers were glossier than normal and the page stock was better than usual, these comics being stapled and not the usual AC glued squarebound issues.
Below is a copy of a Marvel UK comic where as before the artwork was supplied by Marvel US. Once again the original artwork was cropped on the US original.
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13 hours ago, Aman619 said:
I don’t understand how to use the site to find same cover artwork. Is there a simple method?
It's not really that daunting
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PS. I chose the Astounding Stories 1 at random but not only was Strange Suspense Stories 56 reprinted in AS1( an anthology title) but Charlton also printed a Pence Variant. As you can see because this was produced in the US that the same cropped artwork was used. (There you go Steve, back on topic
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9 minutes ago, Aman619 said:
in this Strange Suspense Stories, it seems that the the Astounding Stories had access to the actual artwork because the type elements are in different places. And being from the 50s, before Marvel/DC etc normalized production with pre-printed cover templates, I agree it looks like the artists drew wider artwork, perhaps as they were told given Charltons having already secured foreign reprint rights for shorter cover dimensions.
There are a lot of ways to assemble these covers from photostats. It all depends on what you are starting with and what you need it to fit into. We can get to a greater consensus if we had lots more examples, as Marwood accomplished with the British "reprints!"
As I said Aman there are thousands of examples in the GCD.
What sayest thou Marwood (this being slightly off-topic, but you did start it
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And here the art on the US cover has been cropped on the left. These images are from the GCD who size all their photos to the same dimensions. In reality the Astounding Stories as with other Class titles were wider than the US comics, which is why more of the artwork could be shown.
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10 hours ago, Aman619 said:
Looking at the American Spidey 96 cover, I now see that the artwork is actually one big stat, a print of the art. What could have happened is that Gil Kane drew it the usual width, but Marvel added that strip down the left side. So they had to move Gil’s image to the right.
therefore Gil May have drawn the policeman on the right intending for it to appear on the cover. And it wouldn’t have needed to be drawn later.
If Marvel sent them a stat of the artwork alone, not the US final cover layout, then yes, no extra drawing would have been necessary. But as you see on the original art shown above, the template cover boards pencillers and inkers worked on have printed lines. Nobody was drawing outside them with extra wider art for other markets overseas.
Hi. I've been looking at a lot of UK 70s reprints such as Spider-Man and Hulk ( Rampage) titles on the GCD site, and in every instance the artwork was a lot wider than that of the original US titles (as well as the 1000s of Alan Class reprints). There is NO WAY that these publishers would have commissioned artists to "add" artwork. I'm sorry but the original artwork was cropped in the US and used fully in the UK reprints.
Log into the GCD and see for yourselves.
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Hi. I've been looking at a lot of UK 70s reprints such as Spider-Man and Hulk ( Rampage) titles on the GCD site, and in every instance the artwork was a lot wider than that of the original US titles (as well as the 1000s of Alan Class reprints). There is NO WAY that these publishers would have commissioned artists to "add" artwork. I'm sorry but the original artwork was cropped in the US and used fully in the UK reprints.
Log into the GCD and see for yourselves.
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2 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:
Sometimes if you start a post in a thread and don't post it or rarer when you do, I've noticed the boards will save that reply for when next you DO post...
If you can follow that train of thought
But your not going mad!
Mr Adam, you do not know how reassuring that your reply has been to this silly old duffer who is about as technologically competent as a squashed frog.
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18 minutes ago, Redshade said:
I'm sorry that these images have appeared here. They were not meant to be. I fear that as I do not know what I am doing technologically that my PC has taken over.
This post was not meant to be about Hulk 181 specifically. I tried to put these images in another post. I apologise for my technological deficiencies.
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2 minutes ago, Redshade said:
Hi. I've been looking at a lot of UK 70s reprints such as Spider-Man and Hulk ( Rampage) titles on the GCD site, and in every instance the artwork was a lot wider than that of the original US titles (as well as the 1000s of Alan Class reprints). There is NO WAY that these publishers would have commissioned artists to "add" artwork. I'm sorry but the original artwork was cropped in the US and used fully in the UK reprints.
I'm sorry that these images have appeared here. They were not meant to be. I fear that as I do not know what I am doing technologically that my PC has taken over.
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22 minutes ago, Aman619 said:
Problem for the UK here was that given their large masthead, the art area left over was very square. They couldn’t fit the vertical US cover artwork in the square box. Normally they just take what they were given and reduce the size to crop something out to fill the wider shorter area. But on this cover, they have to cut off the dead body, OR, Spidey! Looks like they ponied up the dough to have somebody add some artwork on the right.
Hi. I've been looking at a lot of UK 70s reprints such as Spider-Man and Hulk ( Rampage) titles on the GCD site, and in every instance the artwork was a lot wider than that of the original US titles (as well as the 1000s of Alan Class reprints). There is NO WAY that these publishers would have commissioned artists to "add" artwork. I'm sorry but the original artwork was cropped in the US and used fully in the UK reprints.
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