SteppinRazor

I inferred you had based on reading the thread, which I did after the fact, not in real time. It appeared as people were asking for the name and you replying, 'pm me' that you were answering in private. My apologies for misunderstanding, I may have read it differently had I not been catching up. I completely understand waiting until a resolution, I would just consider it resolved once the box is in the air. That is, if it's full of newspapers, you have a conclusion. if it has the comics in it, you have a conclusion. @skypinkblu is absolutely correct, we can wait. Also correct both that the PL may apply as you haven't recovered shipping, and that it is community-policy. I think that the purpose of it is to give both parties a chance to put forth their side of a deal gone south and to let the community know that a) that has happened, and b) decide for themselves if the instance merits dealing or not dealing with a party. It's a venue for those who feel wronged and those who do not feel they have wronged anyone, to present their cases and to seek resolution. It's not just a check box of parameters IMO. In any case, I hope that the solution you have found works out in your favor as best it can. It really sucks that it happened, and it made more expensive and complicated by shipping from Canada to here. Good luck

Now that you have a tracking number for the books being sent, is there some reason you are making everyone pm you for the boardie's name? We all make transactions on this board, and have the PL list and HoS, to protect each other as much as ourselves. We rely on feedback from each other. If we don't help one another by supplying information, both good and bad, then we don't support the community. The only person who is helped by not being named publicly, is the shady boardie. It doesn't help us. It doesn't help anyone who hasn't read all of this thread. It's one thing to withhold a name to give the person a chance to resolve the situation. That ship sailed. It's one thing to wait until the goods are in the air so to speak. That ship's sailed. What we are left with is what seems to me an unnecessary hoop to jump through, which not everyone will, that partially shields a buyer who is clearly one for which people should be forewarned. Not on a case by case basis, but forwarned for all to see.

Thanos is a greek name, pronounced Thah' nos (short o, hard s)

They aren't grading the transaction, they grade independent of transactions even taking place. But that's not what I meant about their bias. What I mean is, if you ask yourself why PGX is so poorly thought of, the answer is their bias. PGX's business model is vastly different than CGC's. That leads PGX to grade very differently. Different scoring by different companies shows that whether they have a dog in the fight in any one transaction isn't of consequence to the numerical value assigned. What is of consequence is how collectors respond to their service. That is where CGC's value is. Collectors want less risk. To mitigate risk, they collectively agreed that an entity consolidating a score of condition is worthwhile. They may not be able to tell why a comic is a CGC 9.4, but they know what it represents. They don't have the same relationship with PGX because they often see PGX grade at a lower standard than CGC. PGX could've and probably should've just gone with an entirely different scale, like SAE v metric and make everyone do a conversion.

These aren't accurate. Being unattached to the particular transaction does not mean they don't have their own bias, just that they don't care about a transaction. They can have their own goals that may influence their grading.

gocollect.com is a good resource to look up what comics are being slabbed and what their ebay sales data is. I'd start there for what to slab.

There's no such thing as an objective opinion. Opinions by nature are not objective. An objective measurement is precisely what a numerical scale, say between 1-10, with .1 increments, is intended to measure. Your given, that grading is subjective, is due to a - human nature, and b - impossible if the criteria is secret (a condition that is proprietary for a reason). I happen to agree with your given, which is why I think CGC both offers stability, and yet does not offer what people assume it does. it is essentially a group agreement that an assigned number corresponds to a particular price, whether one X.X comic looks better or worse than another X.X comic. 3rd party grading cannot solve 'objective opinion' (the idea that a 3rd party has no dog in the fight so to speak) because the buyer and seller may evaluate a particular condition differently from each other and/or the third party grader. Rather than provide any clarity of objectivity, what 3rd party grading does, is provide a score that is popularly (ie the populace in general) accepted. In that case, the commodity is not only the object to be purchased, but also the number assigned. It sets a price floor in the sense that one will not send a comic in for grading if one does not believe it is worth the cost, and one will not accept a value for an encapsulated comic equivalent to the same comic in a non-encapsulated form (unless forced by market forces). IE, you wouldn't sell a 9.6 graded comic for the same price as a raw comic. That only happens with misses, and even then, the inflection point for that is mostly lined up with a relatively high score in the high value comics. There might be a point where a raw NM98 meets a high grade encapsulated, but for most comics that aren't major keys, the slabbed v raw price will never be close. Ergo, a graded comic will usually go for more than a raw. It's natural for that to be the case, as the submitter has made an investment, and the investment is printed on the plastic case that the buyer knows the cost of. I don't think there's a problem, any time the buyer and the seller disagree about the condition, a problem occurs (without a grading service). The grading service in fact does not solve that problem, even though it exists, as you say in the bold, to provide objective measure used to determine value. But, what it does do is provide consensus, as you said (I would say though that informed buyers as opposed to educated graders are the consensus that applies). Note that this is not a judgment of whether CGC is good or bad or 3rd party grading is good or bad, or effective or not. It really does not matter. What matters is that the market - informed buyers - agrees the assigned number has a particular value. If tomorrow all informed buyers agreed that CGC was no better than PGX, everyone's slabbed CGC values would drop to align with PGX slab values. That's all that really matters.

The problem it's supposed to solve is objective measurement of condition, represented by numerical scale. It provdes stability to the market despite not doing that by providing solutions to other problems, some of which @blazingbob posted. The existence of 3rd party grading also sets price floors.

Funny, looking through my old What If?s, Punisher was War Machine in the What If Capt. America founded the Avengers story, so I guess this is the second time he's been War Machine

I don't think CGC solves the problem it's supposed to, the one RMA is extolling, but it is a stabilizing force for online purchasing.

I think it is far more likely that demand will die way before the comics do. Copper/Moderns are eras after the idea of them being collectible existed. They were bought and bagged/boarded new. Kind of like baseball cards too. Kids used to stick them in the spokes of their bike wheels. Comics in the Silver age and before weren't considered valuable, other than for the kids who swapped them with friends for other stuff. No, I think there won't be a scarcity of Copper/Moderns, as too many people had already realized they were of value. There would need to be a lot of throwing away of comics that people just don't do as much anymore

Isn't it up to the vendor to decide if he/she wants to pre-sale items on set up day?

yeah, one complaint in there was that people were in his way. How is a store owner supposed to keep someone from standing in front of a box and browsing?

My last completed steel sculpture This one's called Harvey's Influence because my shop flooded when hurricane Harvey hit, and the bottom foot or so got rusted. It hadn't been painted yet, so I left the rust on and painted the rest.

There is. They can revoke their status as an authorized delaer

My hope is that the seller did the right thing here.

It's a synonym of dearth I thought it was more a question about effective use of space and quality of container, so the room in which they are stored doesn't look like a stock room. If there's enough interest in that, I might be able to design a steel box to put them in.

Everything that's listed in the first post of the thread is still available. I'll be closing this thread soon, as I just don't have time to scan and post on a reasonable time table to keep it alive. When I get some more time, I'll start anew. Thanks for the interest!

Prints certainly seem worthy enough of their own thread.

Careful, ask and ye shall receive

Maybe just not here then Still say drek should be sold, not stored

Dropped the Ghost Rider lot on pg 1 to just GR#1

With the parent companies, there's no incentive for a creator to create someone cool. Unless a creator feels like Disney could really use a few bucks since they hardly have any, so gifting them a new property is just being nice

No one seems to want my X-Force or Ghost Rider stuff, so I don't get your point of reference, but it seems like just being a way station for drek is still a good idea. A better question would be what to do with keys that aren't major, like Batman 497.

Isn't that Weapon H?