adamstrange

and finally

next please

continuing from where we last left off...with a couple of bethlehems

I think they'll fit quite nicely if you take them out of the slab.

Very cool cover. Cover artist was Sheldon Moldoff. I thought about having him do a re-creation but didn't take the time to arrange when was able to do them. Darn!

re: Jon -- does have the best centaur collection. but these are mine that he posted for my while i was learning the ropes.

thanks, just trying to keep up with tth2. "Much better than seeing the usuual Marvel SA books which seems to be relatively common in high grade in comparison to early SA DC's." This has been my experience. "The condition on virtually all of your books look to be right up there. During what time period did you purchase most of these books and what kind of multiples were they going for at the time?" Too many posted to answer. I started about 20 years ago. The scans approximate the books. Some books are better than the scan, some not quite as good. I love 'em all. I'm mostly a 10 cent and early 12 cent collector. So that includes that GA and Atom Age. Glad you enjoy them -- makes it worth the carpal tunnel!

i registered Feb 12 and already have 124 posts. many of them are books. you can look up all my post by selecting my avator or follow a partial set of links below. amazing mys funnies are mine, re-posted by jbcomixbox since i hadn't figured out how to post properly http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=gold&Number=719659&page=0&fpart=2 other posts have disappeared. been too busy at the scanner i guess. http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=345720&page=0&fpart=42&vc=1 http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=653631&page=0&fpart=4&vc=1 jayman re-posted these for me http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=gold&Number=592290&page=0&fpart=35 http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=gold&Number=627462&page=0&fpart=11 http://boards.collectors-society.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=gold&Number=473372&page=0&fpart=29 and there's more in some silver/gold threads. this will get you started

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Feel free to look it up, but that was not a hurried or careless post on my part. I do know the picture that you refer to, and he's holding the Newsboy copies. If you peruse the early issues, you'll also see the Bethlehem Showcase 4 held by Fred Khassian. Most of the early Beth. Showcases were sold at the time I mentioned.

i've heard this name somewhere before, but i can't remember where?

the comic that will respect you in the morning

there's a balloon and a statue of Superman, but there is no Superman. tth2: you're a lawyer, right? -- can you get away with this in court?

they forgot to put the number on it!

first cover since action 16 without superman

better post something or i'll fall even further behind.

hey, tth2, he's showing you books from the "good" part of the run. maybe you could trade that big gun of yours for of them.

I was thinking more about this, and I'm actually not so sure how true this is. I'm under no illusions that there are not more HG copies out there (in fact, I really hope there are more HG copies out there, otherwise I'll never be able to complete any runs), and adamstrange has indicated that he knows of collections with some gems that have continued to sit quietly out there. But think about this: a primary source of HG SAs has been pedigree collections, but of the major SA pedigrees, 1962-63 seems to be the earliest when most really start going strong (PC, Curator, Northland, Mass). So that leaves Western Penn, White Mountain and Bethlehem of the known pedigrees which cover the 1950s and early 1960s extensively. Bethlehem is, well, Bethlehem, which means there can be pretty wide variation in quality, and even the nice books can have a bit of tanning. But there are undoubtedly some nice runs of DCs from that pedigree. I know almost nothing about these early Bethlehem DCs, to be honest, but would be willing to bet that Bethlehem will not be a massive source of 9.4 and 9.6 early DCs. I've seen 9.4 Western Penn DCs from as early as 1961, but no earlier thus far. Tom Hanlin has confirmed there is a complete Western Penn Showcase run, but doesn't seem to think that the Showcase 4 and 22-24, for example, are of 9.4 quality. Does this hold true for Western Penn runs of other DC titles from 1956-61? So the jury's out, but I'm not setting my hopes very high. The wild card is White Mountain. Like Bethlehem, it can be of uneven quality, but we also know that many issues from the 50s and early 60s can be absolutely stunning. I know very little about early SA DCs from WM, the earliest 9.4 WMs I have are from 1962. Perhaps adamstrange knows whether there are WM runs of early Showcase, B&B, JLA, GL, Adventure, Flash, etc., and how good they are? If I had to pick where I think the most HG copies from this era would come from, it would be WM. Of course there is always the possibility of yet-undiscovered pedigrees and non-pedigree books, and I hope they will emerge. In fact, most HG copies that I've seen of early SA DC have not been pedigreed (or at least identified as being from a pedigree). Not one of my GLs is a pedigree, and none of the ultra-HG early JLAs that I've seen yet is a pedigree. But if this is the case, then the supply of new HG will continue to be more in the form of a slow drip than a massive flood ala the Pacific Coast collection. Jerry Wiest is the ultimate source on the WM. Many of the books from that collection were sold to Carter, but condition varied. They were heavy on the Sci Fi titles but I have seen a handful super-hero books. Can't recall what. There have been several lots of books released from the collection -- it was not all done on the first trip. As I understand it, the WM books sold through Sotheby's were straight from the original owner to be included in the sale. Carter didn't get first shot, Bob Overstreet did, but he didn't purchase all that many books in comparison to Carter. The last lot from the collection to surface (through Wiest) was about 4 years ago -- my memory's fuzzy on the date. It's always possible there are more books, but it seems likely that the WMs are concentrated in DC SciFi until contrary evidence surfaces. The Bethlehem Showcases were sold by Phil Weiss, the original purchaser, around 1998. Goldman's run is the Newsboy. I do not know any exclusively high-grade completist DC collector of the 1950 - 1963 period. There are/have been many high-grade Marvel collectors going for all of the titles and there are high-grade collectors who specialize on certain DC titles, so there will be books coming out eventually. Probably not enough to go around (are there ever?). I'm hard-pressed to think of any pedigree from the 50s with "massive runs of 9.4 and 9.6". If I had a complete runs of major titles in 9.0 pedigrees I'd be doing awfully darn good. "Perhaps adamstrange knows whether there are WM runs of early Showcase, B&B, JLA, GL, Adventure, Flash, etc., and how good they are?" Books from 1961 up will show up, but will still be tough to find in a NM pedigree-quality copies. If you are looking for books earlier than that, you are typically need to pick the best from different sources.

you mean you're one of these:

Win Mortimer was the main cover artist for all the Bat/Supey titles. Underrated and mostly ignored. I'm not surprised you like it -- I do too (nice copy!). I got a few omics out from that time period but didn't get to them. Soon. Sorry my post didn't make sense. I'm a little punchy this late. MM had no impact on the comic market at the time in any significant way. It made no impact on kids/collectors in that time. He's just another second string. So why did he get promoted as the prime mover? MM never guided for much before he got hyped. He guided for a lot after he got hyped.

It was so shocking the way Martian Manhunter became the lead story in Detective and pushed Batman right off of the cover and out of the book. After that, I don't think it surprised anyone when Manhunter's nephew joined him becoming "Manhunter and Chickadee", eventually spinning off and taking over Action Comics from the has-been hero over there. Of course there were all of those imitators bursting. hurtling like comets through the comic universe: Saturn Scene Stealer, Get Jiggy With Me Jupiter, and Uranus the Unmentionable. Oh wait, that was Earth 1! Anyone who goes for anything other than Showcase 4 as the start is The one significant super-hero change prior to Showcase 4 was World's Finest 71. And I don't promote that (although it is a very cool book).

No way. If this were a boxing match, you'd BOTH have heads that looked like a sack of bloody meat. Sweet books! Just plain old jaw-droppers, and stuff you just don't see! You help me back up just so tth2 can knock me back down. Some friend you are! tth2 that's an extraordinarily attractive copy. do your feet touch the ground?