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Here's another excerpt of a "fresh" RT Eternals review from a Top Critic. The Most Poetic Marvel Film Yet by Shirley Li, The Atlantic Zhao seems most eager to depict the Eternals’ bonds with the mortals they’ve lived beside. Her camera dwells on these interactions: There’s Sersi planting crops alongside farmers. There’s Makkari bartering with merchants. There’s Sprite (Lia McHugh) creating illusions to teach children myths. In these moments, Zhao channels the singular humanistic vision that guided her stunning indies such as The Rider and Nomadland. In those movies, Zhao established herself as an empathetic and immersive filmmaker, prioritizing the sensual experience of her characters, drawing strong performances from actors and nonactors alike, and capturing people’s essence in minute details and lush photography. Her work feels like poetry. Much of Eternals possesses the same meditative magic: Natural light bathes the characters and sublime landscapes—broad skies, rolling prairies, churning seas—surround them. The Eternals experience life on Earth across thousands of years, and with the help of a strong ensemble cast, Zhao tracks their shared awe and despair as observers of history. Zhao’s delicate examination of her characters outshines Eternals’ duller and more convoluted moments. The climax centers on the Eternals’ internal strife, and after spending so much time with this family, seeing them fight is both agonizing and breathtaking. No buildings fall, no hordes of alien armies invade, and no civilians are shown screaming in terror. The most tragic blow doesn’t come from a fist, but from a single look exchanged between two characters. That’s an ambitious approach—to sink a Marvel-size budget into a personal character study and still keep it feeling like a sweeping blockbuster. Only Zhao could have made it so.
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How about a lean "fresh" RT Eternals review from a Top Critic to counter the negativity that folks are having fun with here? Zhaos's touch resonates in Marvel's "ETERNALS" by Katie Walsh, The Hastings Tribune. The fundamental question at hand for the Eternals is also what makes this a fundamentally Chloe Zhao film: is a flawed, and often selfish, human race worth saving? This quandary is undertaken by Sersi, who has been living in London, working as a museum scientist. When the Eternals find themselves in crisis, with Earth and all of humanity in the balance, Sersi has to weigh her mission as an Eternal against her undeniable fondness for humans, as well as the happiness and fulfillment she herself might achieve with human life. Her anguish is palpable. Though the stakes in “Eternals” are far more epic in scope, these philosophical questions about humanity are in step with the rest of Zhao’s filmography. One can almost imagine Fern from “Nomadland” as an Eternal herself, drifting among the population but never quite within it, trying to decide if life among these people is worth the effort required. Some may argue that Zhao’s voice has been subsumed into the Marvel/Disney machine. But the more interesting take is to observe how she’s smuggled her own perspective into this big superhero movie (and it’s not just the magic hour shots, though there are plenty). As cosmic creatures debate whether or not to save the world, longing for the simpler days, it becomes quite clear that “Eternals” is a film about whether our little blue marble in the great big universe is worth fighting for. Ultimately, with her human-scale superheroes possessed of human-scale emotions, Zhao makes the argument that humanity, despite all its flaws and foibles, is worth saving, so we should try and save ourselves. Whether that’s a radical message or merely lip service from the corporate Disney machine, it rings resonantly nevertheless.
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Black Panther's themes transcended its surface level genre of super-hero action film and touched on themes of imperialism and colonialism, racism, the responsibility of leadership and the legacy we leave to our world. T'Challa's journey actually involved character development as he learned to be a better leader. While Dark Knight is full of metaphors on chaos, those metaphors still only apply to the characters within the movie. Dark Knight's themes don't really transcend its genre to more universal ones that involve real life or history. Bruce Wayne's character fails to go through any real character development. His character is essentially flat. In this way, Batman Begins is a better film.
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Super-hero comic book movies have been getting nominated for Oscar awards since 1978 Superman. I hope when I said "There was the precedent for comic book movies getting nominated set by BP and J" that folks knew I meant Best Picture since the context was John Campea expecting Eternals to be a film worthy of a Best Picture nomination when he went to see it.
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I said BP and J are the only comic book movies to be nominated for BEST PICTURE and that they set a precedent. Oddball said I left out Dark Knight, but that movie wasn't nominated in 2012. If it had an influence on the Academy expanding the number of Best Picture noms, fine. We still wouldn't get a Best Picture nom for a comic book super-hero movie until six years later with Black Panther. You can talk up DK all day, but BP is still the film that broke the Best Picture barrier to comic book movies.
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Not really, as far as "too emotionally invested" goes. I call a movie as I see it, whether it's MCU or not. I didn't think Black Widow was that great (and not because of Taskmaster) and I've posted my thoughts about it here even. I thought Black Widow was a missed opportunity to tell a more meaningful story about Natasha though I liked Yelena. If I didn't like Eternals or if I love it, I'll say as much.
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Movie Mom gave Eternals a B-. She literally says the movie isn't bad. Her main complaint was too many characters that it got fuzzy for her, and that's why she thought it was a mess. She still gave it a B-.
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Funny ha ha. Not really. Carol Danvers is almost literally the entire movie. The movie starts inside her head and ends with her going off into space. Without Carol Danvers, Captain Marvel is like four minutes of Nick Fury or Talos talking about stuff. I know I know, for you it's still better, but that four minute Talos Nick Fury short film wouldn't have grossed a billion plus dollars.
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I mean, I did preface my statement with "Unpopular opinion", didn't I? Would better integrity mean that I should change my opinion of the movie because everyone else is telling me it's the greatest comic book movie of all time? Out of respect to Heath Ledger, I said "take out the Joker scenes", but okay, leave them in and I THINK The Dark Knight still ain't that great. For me, Jack Nicholson's Joker is Joker. As effective as Ledger was, he still portrayed some kind of Elseworld 90's Grunge version of Joker who would pseudo-psycho-analyze everything(in an interesting way I'll give it that, Ledger didn't win the Award for nothing) and talk about how crazy he and the world are. However, when it comes to action, he is quite masterful, meticulous, and deliberate in his planning. Nolan's Joker would have us think that all is chaos inside, but a deeper dive shows me that there actually isn't a lot going on underneath. Another term for it is pretentious. And this view of Joker could be a metaphor for the entire film of The Dark Knight, as far as I'm concerned. As I see it, Christopher Nolan and his brother do a masterful and meticulous job of making it seem like there's a lot going on in The Dark Knight and that it's all important and deep, when actually there's not a lot going on at all. Joker would be proud. The dramatic cinematography, the very good score by Hans Zimmer, all the serious talk, and Bale's Batman voice make it seem like the Godfather of comic book movies when actually it's just wearing a shroud of seriousness and intellectualism over an empty body. Whether it's a forensic scene of Batman studying bullet holes in a wall or Batman proclaiming he must be the villain because he can take it, there's just not a reason for a lot of it. It's a lot of dramatic show with no real character development or plot. Well, at least Harvey turns into a Two-Face, who nobody cares about, so never mind.
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Take away the cool parking garage opening scene and Joker’s scenes, and The Dark Knight is Batman doing some redundant CSI detective work that goes nowhere, a bunch of chatter about politics and corporate takeovers, a 40 minute goose chase charade game to which the end result would have been the same if Batman had just gone back up to the penthouse party, a lot of Bruce Wayne simping over a girl who isn’t worth the heartache until she (spoiler alert) dies, and an unsympathetic Two-Face.
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Hope y’all secured your copies of Marvel Premiere #10.
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Ok. But what’s more important, a spicy villain or a spicy hero? Apparently it’s a spicy hero because that’s been Marvel’s formula and that’s a big reason why they rule pop culture.
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Without Obadiah Stane, Iton Man still works. Without Red Skull, Captain America First Avenger still works. Without Ronan, GOTG is still funny as hell. Without Mads Mikkelson, Doctor Strange maybe works better.
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Unpopular opinion: without Heath Ledger's Joker, The Dark Knight isn't that great. And Heath Ledger's Joker isn't as good as Jack Nicholson's.
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Dark Knight was never nominated for Best Picture. Black Panther is the first major comic book movie to be nominated for Best Picture.
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I'll be more specific, there was actual online chatter and insider tweets that Marvel Studios was astounded with how good they thought Eternals was and that Marvel was releasing the film in November in order to be closer to Awards season. There was the precedent for comic book movies getting nominated set by Black Panther and Joker. Then of course, there's the fact that the director Zhao makes very good movies and is herself an Academy winner. From this, one should be able to understand why there was a lot of critical expectations for Eternals based on the circumstances and the online chatter. That being said, Marvel Studios itself never released any official statement saying Eternals would be considered for the Oscars or would just be a popcorn flick.
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There was online chatter and insider tweets that Marvel Studios was astounded with how good they thought Eternals was and that Marvel was releasing the film in November in order to be closer to Awards season. There was the precedent for comic book movies getting nominated set by Black Panther and Joker. Then of course, there's the fact that the director Zhao makes very good movies and is herself an Academy winner. The talk had nothing to do with the original comic book source material, although Neil Gaiman's Eternals limited series is very very good.
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It was actually chatted about online and other places that Eternals, like Black Panther or WB's Joker, might be another comic book movie Best Picture candidate for Marvel.
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Hollywood in Toto did us the favor of listing them out in his RT review: The reviewer, having seen the film, does add that these "bona fides" are just mild "distractions" at best (with the connotation that they did bother him) and goes on to complain about the movie's story. But for the faction of haters who have not seen the movie, "the film's woke bona fides" are the theme the haters are focused on.
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I also didn't say a majority of the general public hate Eternals and didn't mean that. I guess I need to be more specific in my language. But there is a large faction of folks who are opposed to what Eternals represents. The movie has already been troll bombed on IMDb with hundreds of 1 star user reviews. The usual hater YouTube videos are up. The hate is there and as I said, it's large. The low RT score is now just giving them more ammo to work with. I'm just waiting for the "go woke, go broke" chants to start up.
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It was actually chatted about online that Eternals, like Black Panther or Joker, might be a Best Picture candidate. And it still might be. Joker got a 68% RT score and was still nominated for Best Picture.
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I said one RT critic is, Hollywood in Toto, and I faulted RT for including it as a review as it's practically an automatic rotten review. The general hate towards Eternals I talked about is from social media, YouTubers, and the general public.
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When I'm referring to haters and naysayers etc regarding Eternals (or Black Panther, Shang-Chi etc), I'm not referring to the reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. I'm talking about social media, troll YouTubers, other pundits, and folks in the general public i.e. the close associate I had a convo with about Black Panther who says the same stuff a lot of other haters and naysayers say about these Marvel movies that dare to solo feature anyone but a white straight male as if the haters and naysayers all got the same memo talking point in an email or something.
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