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On 4/11/2023 at 6:46 PM, media_junkie said:

Had the Marvels not started filming until after they saw the box office for Ant Man 3, then yes I would agree that it was the wake up call, but kind of hard for the studio to make significant changes to "The Marvels" at this late date without pushing this movie out yet again (which would speak volumes about the lack of quality).

And if you really think Paul Rudd/Ant-Man can carry a 2 billion movie you are seriously drinking the MCU Kool-aid.  Paul Rudd (while I find him funny) is a mid-level actor at best.  The crime was Marvel Studios spending so freaking much on an Ant-man movie, when they had 2 previous ones that were "average" returns at best.

I was being sarcastic (for no good reason) about Paul Rudd being able to carry a 2 billion dollar movie.

On 4/11/2023 at 6:09 PM, media_junkie said:

They didn't come out to save Ant Man 3.

I still contend that Captain Marvel 1 was an $800ish million film (Wonder Woman 1 level).  It got the boost because of the Avengers Infinity end credits and the fact it was out like a couple months before the end of the 10 year saga Avengers Endgame.

I am confident that Disney/Marvel Studios is in for a wake up call with this Captain Marvel 2 movie.  It is going to fall off a cliff from the sales of CM1.  

I thought Ant-Man 3 was Marvel's wake up call. I guess every movie is going to be a wake up call? Because by all rights, Paul Rudd being the biggest action star on the planet, QuAntuMania should have made 2 billion dollars.

On 4/11/2023 at 10:56 AM, thegiftedone45 said:

Please no, Disney has too many characters than what they know what to do with (see the current state of the MCU).  I'd rather Sony keeps making horrible Spiderman movies than watch the MCU turn Spiderman into whatever Thor has become. 

News flash. Marvel Studios makes the MCU Spiderman movies and have near complete creative control. Sony makes the horrorific Venomverse movies and have near complete creative control. Sony distributes both. Disney owns the character wholly. 

A nerd lady’s perspective not named Grace Randolph 

On 4/11/2023 at 3:46 PM, Bosco685 said:

Sorry. No British accent. Don't trust him!

Oh the misogynistic British accent anti-woke ‘get back in the kitchen woman!’ YouTubers are out in full force on this now. They’re just the worst though…

On 4/11/2023 at 3:27 PM, Larryw7 said:

These people must be on crack. I didn't I think would love the trailer, but holy carp! That was really bad. The music, the forced attempts at humor, the juvenile characters- all of the problems with the MCU all rolled up into one crummy package. It looks like it was made for Nickelodeon.

The music is “Intergalactic” by the Beastie Boys! A veritable late 90’s classic that goes without saying.

On 4/11/2023 at 2:33 PM, drotto said:

This all ignors that the printed comic industry is on life support. It is a dying industry. The days of top titles selling 300,000, 400,000, even a million copies is long gone.  The best books are around 50,000 now.  Levels that 25 years ago would mean they might be cancelled.

 

Look around,  today's kids do not read comics. They read Manga. 

Doesn’t matter. Comics culture is still at the top of the pop culture pyramid. Disney and WB Discovery own the two major comics lines so they can afford to keep publishing comics as they go hand in hand with the billion dollar comic book movies. Also, traditional monthly paoer comics aren’t the only way people read comics these days. TPB collections and comic book apps are also popular. 

On 4/11/2023 at 1:54 PM, drotto said:

https://cosmicbook.news/marvel-cancels-captain-marvel-again

Ah, Matt McGloin at Cosmic Book News. Of course. What's happening there is that Kelly Thompson, the current writer, is ending her run as the writer at issue #50 in a few months from now. However, the Captain Marvel series will continue.

Now, Marvel Comics could decide to start a new writer's run with a new Captain Marvel #1, which is what they do with EVERY title now. For instance, Jason Aaron is ending his run as the Avengers writer this month, so next month The Avengers comic will start over with a new #1 and a new creative team. Iron Man just did that. Captain America just did that. They all do that now. I've seen no previews that Marvel Comics will start a new run of Captain Marvel instead of continuing through to #51 and beyond. Either way, Captain Marvel isn't being canceled. If anything, Marvel Comics can't cancel Captain Marvel because if they don't publish the title they will lose the copyright.

On 4/11/2023 at 12:38 PM, drotto said:

The comic that was canceled again for like the 4th time last month? The comic that never moved more than like 15,000 books in a month.  Great source. 

You keep saying the Captain Marvel comic was canceled last month. Captain Marvel hasn't been canceled.

This random YouTuber pointed out something I didn't notice. As Monica and Kamala are fighting Dark Captain Marvel at the trailer's end, M and K appear to be switching places whenever they use their powers so they swap during the tag team fight, which is kinda cool.

Everybody here seems to like this Tyrone guy, so whatever...

Grace Randolph seems to have a dumbfounded look on her face that Marvel released a trailer this soon, after "scooping" a month or two ago that The Marvels was falling apart or something. I think she even says "I'm surprised!"

A little too much negativity here AS USUAL..

Time to lighten the mood.

On 4/11/2023 at 11:40 AM, drotto said:

Remember when Spider-Man had a dance number in it? 

Peter Parker doesn’t dance.

The planet Aladna ruled by Prince Yan communicates through song-like rhyme. It’s from the Kelly Sue Deconnick Captain Marvel stories. So, it’s from the comics.

On 4/11/2023 at 10:29 AM, godzilla43 said:

Yeah I dunno why Disney / Marvel is so stupid. They are aiming this trash to kids but kids don't know any of those characters( and why would they we don't know any of those characters). If a film is cool with the teenagers then also kids want to see it. Otherwise make a film with known character like Super Mario.

Better idea for Disney. Save money and don't make these films and use that money to buy Sony so you will get Spider-Man back.

Yes, Marvel, forget about exploring new characters and new stories and just spin your wheels with Spiderman and X-Men so we can all feel like it was when Sam Raimi and Bryan Singer ruled comics movies and just keep doing that over and over and over like some TVA time loop chamber.

On 4/11/2023 at 11:13 AM, drotto said:

One of the main things fans are sick of is Marvel humor.  So what is Marvel's response?  Double, no triple down on Marvel humor!!!

 

Oh, and aim it at teenage girls, who are possibly the least likely group to want to see an MCU film.

 

Never underestimate the power of girl power. Also, not just teenage girls, but older woman girls both white black and brown. And cat lovers. 

About the humor, yes the trailer uses a fun Beast Boys song, but the humor really seems to come from Kamala Khan. Carol and Monica as the adults in the room seem to be playing it more serious, in the trailer anyway. 

It’s a fun trailer, no doubt, that appeals to younger folks. But Nia DaCosta, the director, cut her teeth on serious films. I’m sure that’s in here, too. One teaser trailer at a time?

On 4/11/2023 at 10:19 AM, theCapraAegagrus said:

I'll sit on a cactus if it breaks $500 MM WW.

Is that a bet?

On 4/11/2023 at 10:19 AM, Axelrod said:

All I'm going to say is that the apparent premise - that these three people have had their powers "entangled" and now keep humorously swapping places with each other - does not fill me with optimism.  It may very well have the Thor Love and Thunder issue of someone thinking that all humor all the time is the best way to go with Marvel movies.  And it's really not (imo).  

But all Marvel movies, unless it’s Captain America or political/espionage thriller themed, have humor in their DNA. That goes all the way back to the first Iron Man movie. Love and Thunder had other issues besides the obvious humor.

On 4/11/2023 at 9:47 AM, 1Cool said:

The last Thor was a train wreck on pretty much all fronts so that is a bad example.  The last Guardians was fine (not nearly as good as the 1st one) but the Marvels looks like it hops all over the place without a concise plot and I'm really getting sick of anything close to a multiverse type of flick.  Nothing about the preview appealed to me in the slightest but like I said it's obviously geared to a much younger audience so maybe I just don't get it.  I may . . may watch it when it streams but there is no way in heck I'm seeing it in the theaters.

This isn’t geared for kids. It’s made for MCU fans and  also looks to appeal to an international audience. 

The MCU has two looks. The fun adventure movie established by Iron Man, and the serious darker movie established by Captain America Winter Soldier. Like 70% of Marvel movies, The Marvels looks to be the fun adventure type. Marvel can’t go 100% Winter Soldier Secret Invasion look just because of some backlash to the humor of Thor Love and Thunder ( though IMO it’s a kinda lazy -script that actually hurt L&T, not the humor). 

Also, it’s a teaser trailer. You can’t tell a movie’s plot from a teaser trailer. I guarantee the movie wouldn’t have been greenlit until there was a plot and a screenplay.

On 4/11/2023 at 9:41 AM, TupennyConan said:

Ah good, a lighthearted comedy. Just what the doctor ordered! 

In this trailer, most of the comedy seems to be coming from Kamala Khan. Otherwise, it looks to have a ton of action. And flerkens.

On 4/11/2023 at 9:38 AM, 1Cool said:

Very, very optimistic.  I know I'm not their target audience but that looked horrible.  Secret Invasion looks promising but this looks like a train wreck. 

How on Earth did that look horrible? So far, it looks like a standard outer space MCU movie just like Guardians of the Galaxy or the last two Thor films. What about it looks like a train wreck?

Dark Captain Marvel. A legion of Flerkens . The song and dance planet Aladna. Looks like the movie is fully embracing the Kelly Sue Deconnick stories. Looks awesome so far. Bring it.

Prediction: The MCU revives its reputation with a string of hits in GOTGV3, Secret Invasion, Loki 2, and The Marvels.