shadroch

When my Dad died, in 1979, my Mom offered to buy each of us something to remember him by. Both my sisters bought jewelry and I bought a set of Encyclopedia Britannica. I had an old set of these as a kid and I thought these would be something I could hand down. After a few years of use, they were relegated to the basement. When I left NY four years ago, I offered them to my library, then to my local school, and finally offered them for free on Craigs List. It bothered me to throw them out, but they are pretty useless these days. I'd think some prepper would have taken them for when the internet fails.

As many pages of art Kirby was doing in the 60s, Marvel published even more in the 1970s. In 1974/75, Marvel was reprinting the FF, the Avengers, Sgt Fury, TOS, Thor, and a half-dozen Pre-Hero books. When Jack jumped to DC, it seemed like Marvel flooded the stands with Kirby books, for which he he got nothing.

Why? Because Stan had one?

Lots of them, according to Prince Namor.

Try counting to infinity. Twice.

Prince Namor accused Stan Lee of selling fake autographs. I'm still waiting for any evidence he cares to provide. I suspect I will be waiting a while. Every creator has faults. Heck, if someone looked long enough, they might find I have a couple. As I said, it just amazes me people will crucify an ebay seller for offering a book with a fake Kirby signature while giving a pass to the man who knowingly committed fraud with many many of his fans. There are people on this board who can tell at a glance if Roz signed it, which indicates how widespread it is. No one, as best as I can tell, ever clamored for a Roz Kirby signed book. Imagine shelling out $100 to get a Roz Kirby signed book only to find out her husband signed it in her name.

Some men climb the highest mountains, some men swim the longest distances, some men put together insanely difficult runs of obscure books. I prefer to sit on my couch and read their exploits. Congrats on accomplishing what you set out to do. What's next?

You can have them treat the signature as a defect and they will put it in a blue label at a lower grade or keep the higher grade in a green label.

Mr. Kirby died in 1994. No artist was charging for signatures. Had he lived until 2018 and been doing shows, I am sure he would have charged. As far as Stan selling fake autographs, you will have to educate me about that. Who, what, where, ect, ect. YOU stated Stan faked lots of signatures. Show me the evidence? I was only at a few shows where Stan was in later years, but it seemed like every time, tix for his autographs and met and greets sold out. If you think signing an autograph to a fan at a show negates the act of defrauding thousands of fans who purchased books you claimed were personally signed, I'm not sure what ls I can say. Besides which, who cares if Stan was doing something. If Stan robbed a bank, should Kirby have followed?

The Kirby's signed thousands of books for a third market company that sold them to his fans. He was well paid for it, and having a middle man in between he and the fans does not change that. I think he committed fraud by taking money to sign product and having others sign instead, and he betrayed his fans by letting DF sell these things at premium prices because people wanted an authentic Kirby signed book.

Nice buy.

I don't recall, but I know they were expensive enough to keep me from buying any.

I greatly dislike Dell Comics. My Mom thought they were educational, as opposed to Marvels.

Secretarial signatures are fine for some things, but those DF books were expensive. Jack ripped off both the company who paid him to sign the books and his fans, who he knew were paying top dollar for it. All while living in a million dollar house, so money wasn't an issue. I believe it's a felony these days in California to do what the Kirbys did. Crime or not, he and his wife ripped off his fans. DF supposedly dropped off 2,000 books and picked them up 7 days later.

Too bad it's a Dell.

Why does Kirby get a pass for pawning off expensive " autographs" to his fans? I'm amazed people call one guy a crook for faking an autograph while Kirby pushed hundreds of fakes.

That's not much more than I paid for a Marvel spinner rack in 1986. I don't know if distributors gave them away in the 60s, but by the time I opened a distributor account, they were a thing of the past.

It's amazing how many shots Marvel took with Ka-Zar. I'm not sure why they were so obsessed with white jungle characters but barely used the Black Panther. I also didn't like Dr Doom having his own book, as that was reserved for good guys. While I skipped most issues, I did enjoy It, and it was in Astonishing Tales that I first encountered Fin Fang Foom.

I'm amazed so many of you are willing to accept a defect like newton rings. It is a design flaw, not an Act of God.

Very Nice. I have reprints of the other Guild books, But I don't remember seeing this one.

I believe Joe Simon created Blue Bolt as a work for hire, left the book after a year or so and never claimed ownership of the character. Perhaps Marvel was trying to compare the two situations.

A similar, but not exact situation is Jungle Action 5 and 6. #5 has a Black Panther cover and should have featured the new BP series but the dreaded deadline demons caused it to have a reprint. Collectors seem to embrace both books.

One of my college room-mates was from Saugerties and always spoke highly of Mr Sinnot. Evidently, he was very involved in the community and was beloved, aside from his day job. Rest in Peace.

Over in the Golden Age forum, a thread about the Lamont Larsen collection was just bumped, and the original post deals with this subject. Its a good read, if not very definitive.

One book vs two short boxes of raw or eight boxes of slabs.