MGH

Time to be flooded with unsold back issues with new plastic covers Cgc finally found a way to get additional business from all those long boxes of unsold 90s issue #1's And here we thought we'd already hit peak nonsense variants... No more CGC for me... Thanks.. Im out

As this grows and grows I have gone from giving Clayton crain benefit ofthe doubt to realising he is likely just as complicit with what went down After that latest bleeding cool story seems like plan was a mass publicity stunt and book drive for their own new self published works, using their left over marvel stock as the vehicle for said publicity and quick highly speculative buck. Why oh why did CGC board that train when all can see the tracks lead off a cliff

So let me get this straight.. Infinite black is a publisher about to launch their own comics and they are wrapping their brand around marvel published comics without permission and selling for a premium? And cgc recognising it as legit This just gets worse and worse for all involved..

Didn't mean to offend.. And I was dead serious as while I don't think black flag gives two hoots for their cash grab I'd like to think marvel would not care for their brand being presented in an offensive way to veterans

If you wrote a letter to MARVEL on your disappointment on this disrespect on 'their variant' I'm sure you would see repercussions..

The way you see it doesn't align with the rules we live under.

You are on a board where a lot of us have professions based on creation or distribution of IP

They are not bulk printed... They are one off and they are understood as being one of art pieces by an artist with nothing to do with the published piece. If they were to mass produce the owner of original IP is able to ask ( or litigate) for licensing fees or order cease and desist Look.. I didn't write the laws or case precedent but that's how it is and you can look it up if you don't believe anyone here. Edit : I only know from copping this before from what seemed out of nowhere but in hindsight made sense

Individual one off drawing, every one of them for individual requests They aren't drawing one artwork , calling it a day, sending it to the printer, attaching it to someone else's IP with intent doing so will generate more income when they sell the majority of them in open market

Probably spent too much time negotiating price for all the 10s and 9.9s so they just printed the labels and sent out the moment they settled on invoice amount

I wonder if we will ever get statement from Clayton Crain on his take on what his commission was for and if he knew he was being dragged into this

The line is usually understood as 1. 1 off, never to be repeated and usually for personal use but sketches and remarks fall into that generally speaking 750 is whole different court

I'm certain if marvel decided to come at him, he wouldn't have a leg to stand on.. Its just whether they want to

Agree.. He mentioned he hadn't used any copyright stuff in his acetate print so hes in the clear and I was watching video thinking ' but they haven't approved use of their IP in this way surely'.

He probably needs to check where getting his legal advice from. Watching that video made it looked more like he was making assumption he was in the clear because he didn't use copyrighted IP on his acetate but ignored the fact he then produced 750 of them stuck it onto 750 comics - whose IP is owned by a another publisher- without approval to turn a profit. if you go to print making your own product by modifying someone's IP without permission or license you are in the firing line for number of potential claims. I'm speaking from position of being in a company that had to settle an IP claim for misrepresenting a brand in a marketing image that had less exposure than this book

I don't know why people chase variants.. Especially over hyped ones with artificial print limits to try and push interest There's a few moderns im enjoying actually reading ( *gasp*)

Having been entangled in IP issues before, regardless of what marvel chooses to do, they have every right to come at black flag for violating IP of their book if there was not an agreement in place that gave all rights and IP of marvel material to said seller. They can sue if they believe the material has compromised their brand or has been used for profit outside of any license agreement.

It wasn't a remarque Someone made their own special cover, had 750 copies professionally printed and attached to a major publishers IP ( without consent) for sole purpose of profit. Legally speaking you allowed to do a one off with someone's IP. You are not supposed to do a run and sell it from a store without getting consent / licensing use of IP etc.

A remarque is not mass produced and marketed as an exclusive without clarification it has no association with the publisher.. It is so certified in a manner that everyone knows it is not associated with the publisher Your comments regarding nudity vs USA completely missed the point that the copyright holder has legal right to control how their product is represented in marketplace The painted Nike is a recent example

Can't throw stones at the competition once you move into that glass house

When join all the dots of how everything went down this has all the optics of multiple parties through the food chain conspiring to take a gamble for quick buck ( including gambling integrity ) They may have got the $ but now game is on to try claw back whatever integrity they can ( and doing very poorly currently)

Heaven forbid they do their DD prior to grading a book to ascertain authenticity.. You know, so they can actually verify the thing as part of them giving their CGC certification seal...

@Lirion. If we are aiming to believe those grades have been bought with no identification marker.. How many before, and for how long has this practice existed What value is that for the consumer? Why even bother getting a graded comic of there's no way to know if grade was earned or bought? 100% about the grade.. It doesn't have to have a green label.. It could be a 6.0 blue with actual record of defects or higher score green for those who want to imagine what grade might be of the book wasnt altered from original condition.. But that grade needs to be legit and about the book, and not about who asked for the book to be slabbed and what they paid

I don't think anyone has promoted competitors better in the last 24h than CGC