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Not sure there would be any of the spine left. It seems like there is a lot of glue. You might get it into a .5 blue as i think you would lose your whole spine and have a three piece book. Not worth it imo. James G

There is another much cheaper 37 available as well :-) James G

I was directly responding to this which references restored copies.... Yes went haven't seen much of any blue labels in any grade. James G

Um there are several in various auctions.... CL CC, etc

They have come down recently tho. Much like everything else it depends on what was done to the book and the price range. I have seen a few in the 20K+ range that I felt went cheaper then I would have expected. There are a bunch up now so we will see some new price points on the low end. I think it also depends on where people cap the price. Some will only be able to do a 10K, 20K or 30K book so the cost factors in greatly to the sale price IMO. James G

Here is one I recently got in. Not sure it can be beat well except my name isn't Don James G

Likely supple??? 1/3rd of it has broken off Well the cover paper it stronger and stands up better. I talked to vinny about this book, it was the top of the pile and the exposed part was the only brittle part. So i still say the cover would be perfect for leafcasting onto a complete interior. James G

This would be a great book to switch interior and then just restore the corner. Less work and the cover is likely still supple. James G

I watched that book but felt it would be SB at least and as such figured it would be a .5 with tape stains and weak paper. I still think the price was ok tho. James G

Why is this book always missing the centerfold. I assume it is a double page spread but more then any other issue it seems to always be incomplete. James G

I thought this sold for close to 10k in mycs i wouls assume the work was done a loooong time ago. James G

Was it even that long ago, seems like last week. I don't see this book getting up to 22K again but who knows.... James G

it sold here raw for $1200. I'm going to guess $2500 tops For a torn out front cover ? Stupid money. yup. I thought the $1200 was already strong but someone will pay more since it's wrapped in shiny hard plastic I thought the 1200 price was strong as well. Hard to say what it will hit but I doubt 2500. If the cover was fully intact that may be different or if two people both happen to need it, but it would need a decent about of resto to marry that to a book. Colors were good tho and the paper is nice. Time will tell I guess but parts are getting expensive these days. James G

Quick shipping well packed. Thanks James G

It's also missed in the body of text description ... "This copy boasts absolutely crackerjack restoration and beautifully presents as a high-grade book. The colors pop right off the page and you can almost sense the excitement readers of the era experienced upon seeing the foreboding visage of the newly-minted Batman on newsstands. The bright yellows and reds read well against the dark, gloomy brown and gray imagery. Looming above the gothic scenery is an exceptionally long-eared rendering of a troubled hero that would soon take the pop-culture world by storm. All early Detective Comics are highly sought-after, valuable, and important pieces of comic-book lore." Honestly I agree with all points and I wonder if the price is being pushed, honestly I thought it would stay under 10K with a restored incomplete book, but it sure doesn't look that way sitting at 8200 with 10 days left.... Tough to accept to re-restore a book if you can find the correct back cover even. The back cover it has is VERY wrong not just a department number. James G

But that book could have issues not seen. It just really worried me. I know some of the pre hero books popped back up rather quickly and I wonder if that is because people didn't like what they got. I won the 37 with an angry bid, so we will see how it comes I guess. James G Angry Bird? nope erked I lost the 36 so put it a dumb bid at the last sec on the 37 and won it, doesn't really do me that much good considering I have a complete copy James G

But that book could have issues not seen. It just really worried me. I know some of the pre hero books popped back up rather quickly and I wonder if that is because people didn't like what they got. I won the 37 with an angry bid, so we will see how it comes I guess. James G

Honestly i think the seller did a very poor job. I would have gone after a few of those books but i am not willing to drop 10k+ on a book with those poor pictures. I suspect that impacted the prices. I also think there could be a lot more defects that were not visable which is common of low grade books like that. James G

anything missing will be listed as incomplete, depending on how small a piece is, it might not drop down to a .5. The other option is go green label of course. I had a book missing a small coupon like 1x3 off the last non story page and it was still listed as incomplete. Book was nice otherwise I think it may have been a 2.0 or 1.5/1.8. James G

Yes there are plenty of Hulk 181 qualified because of the cut stamp or that wrap being married, these are GREEN labels.

My mentality is to knock a percentage off – I am not sure how CGC treats the various cases (especially with Golden Age where it is more common), as there are a good number of Hulk #181 with married wraps (because of the value stamp) that have been graded as "Qualified". If they consider it restoration when marrying a cover (which in fact it is) maybe they should all grade as restored. I have sent my own Hulk #181 to grade and I am curious to see how it will be, as I suspect the stamp page is married, so it falls in that case. If a book has a married part of any sort but no other restoration it will be Qualified. If it has other restoration it will be purple with the married pieces mentioned in the notes on the label. If it isn't caught it will be blue James G

The book has been around a lot and was on the boards recently I believe it sold here for 1200-1500. The price was very strong, but for 2500 what you really want is the front cover and that was mostly there, mostly. James G

$12k/13k will get you a nice looking 3.5/4.5 copy and a restored 6.0/7.0 If you know someone that has restored 3.5/4.5 copy for 12K please let me know. I think the later estimates of near double that are much closer to the mark. James G

I bet if you asked 100 random comic fans what the firs appearance of the Joker was they wouldn't know. I think many people forget that it's the first Joker and first Catwoman, to me that isn't the first think people think of when they think of a Bats 1. The movie hype may help a random high end sale but I doubt it is going to impact a 1.0 or .5 sale at all. When the 1989 Batman movie hit there was an upswing in high end price because non collectors wanted the bat books, that isn't going to happen with low end copies. I think overall the movies have little to no impact on value. James G

Price was a tad low compared with more recent sales, but the front cover is almost useless tho with a ton of tape and missing large pieces. Paper looked ok with some tape stains, but you basically bought a coverless plus book. Not really enough to restore and there have been much nicer front covers around. I think 7500-8500 would have been more inline with the last few sales. All that being said there is an incomplete brittle interior that sold for stupid money and keeps coming up for auction over and over again. I think I have seen it 3-4 times over the last year+. James G