I don't hear too much about Red Raven 1 anymore when elite Timelys are discussed. At one point (witness the above) it was right up there. Same point re Tough Kid Squad 1.
What, if anything, has happened to those two books?
sadly, without a Hollywood -script, that book or character gets left behind. RR1 features Jack Kirby's 1st signed work for Timely which should mean a lot to the Timely or Kirby enthusiast. Stan was fortunate that his 1st work for Timely landed in a premier character and title.
Perhaps in some cases but has a lack of a movie hurt either Sub-Mariner 1 or MPFW 1?
They certainly have risen in price. Just compare all the Timely Keys. Cap 1 with several movies has got nuts the rest of the books havent rusen to much. Movies increase the popularity of a character which in turn creates demand which results in higher prices. Sometimes the demand keeps going and sometimes it crashes. Generally this doesnt impact gold as much as silver and later books.
I dont see Red Raven even doing much bc of limited sales and no main character. MPF is just to rare and with such limited sales an increase in price is very hard.
James G