UncleBEN

Remember when CGC denoted major defects on the label? Josh is the same dealer that sold me a very expensive book sight unseen with a rusty staples note, this was my fault for not asking about any notes at the time,I suppose but shady on the other hand to not disclose. When pressed on receipt and wanting to return it said" It won't progress any further in the case" That was my last deal with them many years ago

Watch for this book to resurface in a new holder with OW-W pages and at least a 7.5. Buyer got a smoking deal on this book.

Thank you I saw it , typically their auctions go pretty high and with the current uptick on this issue I am worried it will be a gap hard to fill. Not loving the miscut on it either, its funny when you I am at my last few needed to complete my run how unbelievably picky I am . And to think I passed on a 9.4 last year for 15k, seems like a deal now

I love me some early ASM'S....couple issues I am having a hard time filling in my run in high grade are 5 and 6 without chipping or pre chipping. Both issues are plagued with it, and it seems in my experience that CGC does not down grade very much if at all for pre marvel chipping. Ice has a nice 5 9.2 that I would snag in an instant if I could be sure it did not have chipping. After MUCH back and forth they seem to be unable or unwilling to clarify if the said book has it. Initially they told me that it had a 9.6 edge and no chipping. But after looking at the images far too many times I wasn't convinced so asked for more scans, and the grader notes. Although again in my experience CGC does not denote chipping for whatever reason .(Anyone know why this is?? Not a down gradable defect? Huh?? ) Their pictures while colorful (lacking an appropriate adjective here) on their website are not crisp enough to zoom in for any closer details. They apparently do not have a s can ner and the pics they provided were either conveniently blurry on the areas I requested and even circled the suspected affected areas via markup , or simply not close up enough , although other quadrant pics were? ) They have been extremely responsive and very friendly but it all seems "fishy" for the lack of a better term. With 9.4's few and far between and now setting record GPA'S I think I will have to settle for a 9.0 or 9.2 , and would in a heartbeat but I would love another opinion if it is chipped or not. Scans attached please let me know what you think? I hate being such a PITA but it's a lot of coin and while chipping may be acceptable for some it is a deal breaker for me. This is not a complaint by any means for these guys just a lifeline to my fellow forum members with better and perhaps younger eyes than I , its a large purchase for me so any assistance and opinionswould be greaty appreciated. Thank you , M Some correspondence from start to end, thoughts? Thanks for the notes , unfortunately they do not disclose every defect in my experience. And that’s okay if the images are clear enough or book is in hand . Can you get some high resolutions pics or scans of the right edge ? And assure me that there is not any chipping or pre chipping present ? I can see what appears to be pre chipping in the green area and by the #5 Anything you can send me to clear that up ? Or is there a return policy ? Typically I would not ask on graded books as I usually know the answer . But if you allowed a return I would pull the trigger or if we can get clear high resolution pics that show no chipping it’s a deal . Are you guys doing any upcoming shows ? "As for what we can see, we can't see any pre-Marvel chipping. We think the edges look 9.4-9.6" I actually got this from home last night. I can ask to see if we can get some closer-up pics from one of my co-workers, specifically whereabouts are the needed extra pics? I can kind of see where you're referring to now sadly we have no scanner, we use a camera (a good one), but I am far from a technical wiz! Let me see what I can get you and we can go from there, but LMK what you'd really like to see and I will get those for you. And the last email: "I sadly cannot 100% say there is no pre-Marvel chipping. I can say there is no current chipping. But the edge, even looking straight on, I cannot guarantee that, so that's really a can of worms sadly."

CT removal masked as wear? https://www.comicconnect.com/bookDetail.php?id=859966

CGC shipped the other book overnight today at apparently their cost . Seems to me if should have shipped before the encapsulated book and still do not I understand why they didn’t ship them together as both were ready . But they made that part right . Still no communication in regards to the damaged graded book , the marred images and the scratched holder or why they charged a CGC MEMBER for grading notes ? Just one of many times the billing has been off . Watch out for the lower dollar adders is all I can say , the right hand is not talking to the left to say the least at CGC. 2 and a half months for two Express submissions , damaged books , holders , MIA subs and no cust service . If this was any other company doing this to their customer base I don’t think they would be around very long or they would find themselves facing a class action suit . Honestly I am pretty easy going and hate drama , so they will likely get away with it . I miss 2000 , when they were hungry !

So here is an interesting update on my most recent submission 2 books submitted Aug 28th keep in mind these are both Express Submissions both ways (CCS and CGC) CCS receives 9-16-19 Gets to CGC 10-8-19 Both Prescreened One is upgradeable the other is not despite the only primary defect being a back cover wrinkle ( Scans coming if I ever get it back,really thought it would jump at least 2 grades) Okay I say press the one, other labeled do not encapsulate CGC imaging sends scans 10-10-19 NO reply to numerous emails and contacts through online contact us form..Case has a huge scuff in the images Send Donell at imaging a direct email asking why is the case scuffed, no reply Books sit until 11-4-19?? Received yesterday ONE book out of the TWO Holder is scratched , no HUGE scuff (reholdered?) , and book has deep color breaking stresses on the spine that were not present prior to submission Call CCG today , Chris says dunno where the other book is, our guys will look into it. Look at my billing statement and it is $195 for one book ($60 for Overnight, so $135 for grading) Call Accounting, ask why $135? They aren't sure, go through the billing and says that grader notes cost me $30 , huh?? For real?? I can buy them on the site for $15? Aren't notes part of the submission process? This is new he says , not sure of his name, nice guy though I ask what about the MISSING book? Says not sure why we didn't ship that overnight with the other, we will look into it. Should be updated today 11:22 PM now, still shows DO NOT ENCAPSULATE No replies to any emails , no response from CGC in regards to the MISSING book I know this is a lengthy message but if anyone read it all the way through perhaps my fellow forum members can assist me with this? I am not independently wealthy and giving CGC a 1k+ book and getting another similar book damage in the process really hurts my collection Thanks in advance for lending me your ears and any advise is greatly appreciated

Grading delays, but plenty of time to create and market new labels that will make many reholder ......

This is a 9.2???

How is this a 9.6?

And another....

If you know of any high grade SA ASM'S that are CBCS graded for 30 % lower than CGC please let me know, I would happily buy them all at that price.

I hope your not trying to get a 9.9 out of the ASM 300 I sold you If it happens don't tell me! :P

Books finally went too imaging and are now sitting in QC for the last 8 days. This makes roughly 3 months on an Express submission I will NOT be using this service for awhile , any books that I am looking at selling will go to CBCS , as even if there is a loss in margin the time will make up for itself no question. Very disappointed in the lack of any customer service or CGC caring at all about contacting me, or sticking to their advertised lead times by any measure.

As long as they are not sold.

Quite the press on the ASM 27 9.8 , from a 9.6. Wonder what that will sell for? Makes me wonder how many of these flips are internal purchases, pretty hard to assess a NM+ press into a NM/MT from only a front cover scan

Well presently its a 10 day turn for grading, no newton rings , or SCS issues with their inner well and free grading notes. Also they respond to my emails, so seems like a feasible alternative

A very nice early ASM , CCS received 8-16-19, to CGC 8-28-19 , STILL sitting received as of today. NO communication or movement for an EXPRESS submission. I will be using another service moving forward I am pretty well done with this company.

Gorgeous for the grade. Can't see a bump with the water stain though, I think your capped out at VG

Have an Express submission sitting at received 8-28 This is ridiculous

Is that CT removal in the green? Just curious as I have never seen that "flaking" before on the spine and in the banner? Beautiful books, you have quite the pair ...

Was referring to mine in the above post

Nice 110, the BRC always seems to be the area a crease settles in at least in my experience. One I might press, but unlikely grade bump. @joeypost ?

Terry's comics brought it to market around 2000 as a 9.9 from a stash of high grades he had, I think it's changed hands a couple times since 2000 when it was graded. Lastly being sold on ComicLink sa far as I know I held it in my hands at SDCC in 2000 and it is a stunner. Colors unlike any other 19's to say the least However 30+K for a 9.9? Not for me personally , I think those funds are much better spent elsewhere personally.

Don't like the wrap on it, was offered on the market this year for 35k however, wouldn't surprise me if it broke that with the way that issues has been going. Just repeat after me there is no 11, there is no 11 :P