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Hi all, Lower grade copy here for sale. Spine wear and some creasing but the rusty top staple is the biggest flaw. With that, I’m calling it a 2.5. $40USD shipped or best offer. First claim takes it! Paypal for payment please. If unhappy upon receiving, let me know and I will make it right. Thanks

Take this book. They gave the book a 9.4 which is the highest graded cover. Which means they ignore the lower grade, which is part of the book which would go against you saying they grade the entire book wouldnt it?

Okay....but one of the covers on my book is a 4.0, the other a 6.0. How is assigning the book an overall grade of 6.0 accurate if part of my entire book is a 4.0?

I guess averaging the book out makes the most sense since they are grading the entire book. So if the book would receive a 4.5 grade with one of the covers and a 6.0 with the other, calling the overall somewhere in between makes sense. Because you can't just ignore the uglier cover and say it does not affect the grade. I am starting to lean towards this as feeling like the best appraoch. I do NOT agree with them just picking the higher graded cover and slapping that grade on the book. If the outer cover is a 3.0 and looks like , in a slab, thats all you see. But if the inner cover is a 6.0, okay, call the entire book 4.5 or so. Makes more sense to me than calling it a 6.0.

I will try to find it but I have even seen a double cover where the inner was a 6.0, the outer a 5.5 and the whole book was graded 5.0 (in the white label). Error on CGC? Or some cryptic secret method of grading the entire book that we don't know about.

Good point, that does only apply when the inner cover is better....and I am not saying anyone would or should do that. I am just saying CGC doesn't seem to have any consistency with how they grade these types of books. If they do, a little transparency (and consistency) would be nice.

This is what CGC should be doing 1. Grade the outer cover only (display on label) 2. Grade the inner most cover and entire book and display this grade on the label 3. The grade from 2. should be the overall grade displayed in the white box To me, grading each cover and then assigning a grade in between or something to that effect is dumb. Reality is, the outer cover (or covers if more than two) don't matter and could be removed, leaving a perfectly fine comic. That is why the inner most cover along with the pages should be the focal point of their grading. The additonal outer cover or covers can just be noted.

Well when they say inner cover is a 5.0, I would assume that means the ENTIRE cover, front and back. Not just the front. You are right that even if the cover is a 5.0, maybe something in the interior pages brings it down to 4.5 ( a dog eared corner, a stain in the margins, a small tear to an interior page). It just seems there is no clear standard CGC has come up with for these.

I have even seen a book where the outer and inner covers were different grades and then the grade displayed on the case was like an average of those. Not sure if it was an accident, on purpose or ????? I want to find the book because it was odd for sure.

So, suppose the outer cover is a 9.4, the inner cover a 9.0. They would still give it a 9.4? To me that doesn't seem right if the rest of the book is a 9.0, including the inner cover.

I mean, depends on who pressed it. Sometimes, multiple presses are needed to remove certain defects. If you have such a defect, one press might not do it but perhaps a second or third would (like an indent or bend). If an amateur pressed it initially, maybe they did not completely fix the pressable defect, whereas the second time it was pressed it was done by someone more experienced who actually fixed the defect. There is also the belief that, really, some 9.6 books are really 9.8 books and vice versa. Remember these are humans grading books. Last I check, CGC had 20 some odd graders and were hiring more. You can't tell me that if you handed the book to every single one, they would all say 9.8. Chances are, one might say 9.6. It is something CGC can never fix because your idea of a 9.6 might differ from CGC might differ from what I think. CGC really has the final say in terms of value but I can tell you I have seen many 9.6 books (and the odd 9.4) that look just as good as any 9.8 book. But it will get to a point where, no matter how many times you press a book, the grade is the grade. You can try and see how often you can get a pressed book to receive a grade bump by pressing again and again but I doubt you will see the results you did here every time.

So, I have several double covers I have contemplated sending in. However, I am looking for a definitive answer as to how CGC grades them. From what I have seen, they will put both grades of the covers on the slab and then display the higher grade. For example, if the outer cover is a 9.4 it will say that and if the inner cover is a 9.6 it will also state that. From what I know, the label SHOULD read 9.6 Is this true? I only ask because of have seen some double covers where the overall grade was NOT the same as the grades assigned to the covers. Also, is this not further proof that CGC really only cares about the cover of the book? I mean what if you have a 9.4 outer cover, a 9.6 inner cover but there are pages with stains in the margins? Surely that book cannot warrant a 9.6...... Any info on this would help

This is 100% true Here is the small bend I noticed and that the note seem to speak of. Other things that stun people expecting 9.6-9.8 and they end up with 9.2-9.4 are fingerprints, faint staining and slight rust on a staple.

Depends on your view of Pedigree books. Generally tho they do command a premium over non pedigree copies. How much depends on the book, the pedigree and ultimately the people who want to buy it.

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Low grader alert! Ghost Rider 1. Flaws are pretty visible. Likely a 1.0 maybbbeee a 1.5 Asking $125USD shipped. First claim takes it. Open to offers! Paypal for payment please. If unsatisfied, let me know and we will work it out. Thanks!

Yes on that book

I have a bunch of comics that I’m not attached to at all but are part of my collection. Do I need 70s Ragman really? No but to sell would yield nothing so with me it shall stay. Plus Kubert art how can one say no? And in 2045 when the Ragman trailer drops and the book skyrockets to $700, I’ll still keep it and probably think I was cool having Ragman before others thought he was cool.

I’ve been collecting comics for 20 years. Still learn something new every year it seems

All I’d ask is that the original poster takes time to learn grading before they sell. Or buy. If you looked at that Human Torch ish and though it was anything better than a 1.0 (or worth more than a dollar), then you might be heading for a tough time in the comic world…..

Right? I woulda been all over that Indian Warriors like maple syrup on a flapjack

Please do!

My regret is being born in 89 instead of 59. But alas, I will tell people to never regret a sale. Sure it sucks when a book you sell for $50 sells for $200 less than a year later. Focus on what you used that $50 to grab and add to your collection Example: I sold a book for $150 to help buy a copy of ASM 6 for $400. The $150 book is now worth around $400. Rats. Buttttt the $400 ASM 6 is now worth around $800 so you can see why one should never regret a sale, especially if you are using comic sales to find the hobby

It’s a big deduction for CGC too. 8.0-8.5 from me but without that crease you would be looking at something in the 9.4 or better zone