The Cimmerians Purse

you guys should stop being so mean to Anal Eyes... a very misunderstood character!

1) I hope he is too. As a child of the classics... i like seeing other kids of the classics. 2) that's a very interesting and valid point. The death of the comic shop could have farther reaching effects into this hobby. I personally learned about comic art, and tons about comic history by talking to my local comic shop owner back in the day. I was lucky enough to have a local comic shop owner who was an Eisner Award nominee in the comics journalism category, and was / i think still is a member of the CFA APA. He and I would have 2 hour long conversations about comics every week. He showed me my first pieces of OA. I wont say he formed my appreciation. But he helped make me aware of comics that maybe I would have become aware of and maybe i wouldn't. And that influenced me for sure. He also liked me though because my first time in his shop i brought the Darkhorse Creepy Archives #1 up to the register, and he was like "young man, are you old enough to buy this comic book?" I know that demographics will change the hobby, but i think there will always be appreciation for the true greatness in comic history. It may / probably will take a discrete drop at some point, but I think cream always finds a way to float. But I do believe there will always be people who are history buffs, and will go out of their way to understand the history of the thing they love. Partly because I do. Also I think Comic Book Podcasts are taking up some of the slack for the decline of our local shops in helping to keep some level of historic understanding prevalent in the zeitgeist of comic book lore. This is why people should be more get togethers where collectors, old and new, can meet and talk about art and comics. Thanks for getting baited into this conversation. I'm glad we got to have some more back and forth after the first time I asked you the question when Felix had that live chat on his site a few weeks back

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS!

That point is well taken, and I do believe that a lot of collected artists / genres / titles etc will fall out of favor. But, we also shouldn't discount the idea that true greatness may be collected for a very long time. Because as OA enthusiasts, Gene, we're not even part of the "aggregate" that you mention above in the first place. We are the few, the proud, the nerdy. And so in this hobby we'd have to be able to say does this nerd exist? and if he, or she, exists do others exist along side them. I've met the nerd. He's my former colleague's 13 year old son from Brazil, and his art hero is Jack Kirby. And if he exists, chances are that more do as well. And this hobby doesnt need many, only a couple thousand. My outlook to clarify, is that I do believe that Millennials will collect OA. Will they chose to collect all of the vintage art areas that are expensive and popular now, no probably not. Will the true greats, and fathers of modern comic books always have a following? yes, i thin they will. Will the values of historically important artists dip before moving onto a longer term trend? yeah probably. But who among us actually read Krazy Kat when it was being published? Anyway my original point was that I dont think the hobby of collecting comic art will die with we Gen X'ers. But I think the final outcome will be more nuanced than how it's usually discussed on these boards. I feel like i have to give my legal statement like at the end of a Seeking Alpha article... I don't own any great Kirby Marvel art, nor am I every going to, unless you're correct and the bottom falls out of the values. I buy what I love because I love it. But i'm also a professional forecaster by trade so I can't help but think about the future

I think that their ability to purchase collectibles like original art is way too casually dismissed. They're the biggest age cohort, and saying that they're all broke is just dismissive.. like any other age cohort there's all ranges of success... and just like any other age cohort they have their nerds. I think there's a big effect of seeing hipsters being hipsters and likening that to all millennials. we also say things like "i'm not seeing growth in comic readership numbers" but this discounts the fact that so many people are reading comics online for free that it's silly. I think if we could create an actual total readership trend, it would surprise people to see how much comics are being read. But a number of readership avenues just aren't trackable.

So she is. Yeah, totally cool page... not 17,500.

Yeah, just this past summer in the European Comic Art auction. do you think it goes for anywhere near the 17,500 that it did then? ... It's a neat image of Lady Jessica, and I love Dune, but should it be a comp with the (IMO) Iconic Darth Vader, Return of the Jedi cover? I have a hard time saying yes to that question.

not an uncommon response LOL! A data scientist takes lots and lots of different data points and make predictions, and gleam insights out of them using pattern-recognition algorithms. the data points would be a combination of the actual outcomes of interest, and the factors that affect those outcomes. Those insights can then be leveraged to make predictions on new outcomes. Example: how a bank determines whether or not to extend a loan. First create a general algorithm predicting whether or not somebody will default on a loan, based on their current income, income to debt ratio, credit score, history of credit. etc. Those patterns are predicted by data scientists. Then underwritters will apply the algorithm parameters to determine if you are a risky loan candidate, or a high quality candidate by running your income / debt / credit history based on the equation that the data scientist predicted.

someone who does predictive or classification analytics with multivariate statistics / machine learning / neural networks etc..

I don't think you can get a Ditko Warren A-page for less than 10k. B-pages sure, but not an A-page... I may be biased on this topic though... so please discourse encouraged. It's a hard one to measure because there are so few comps.

I believe that I am at the very very very tail end of Gen X... the Millennials that I know / work with / have hired are not broke. Far from it. ... not every millennial fits into the sad story of "paid too much money for a degree that doesnt pay anything" stereotype. While that might be more of a thing now, and unfortunately for millennials, it hit when they were graduating when very generalized degrees were falling out of favor. It is just not true for a very large number of people. People with STEM degrees are more sought after than ever... 5 years ago i used to be able to hire a data scientist fresh out of grad school for 80k, now i wouldnt even put a number that low on the table for fear that i'd insult the candidate... who is a millennial about 3/4 of the time, or more. Now it's 90-95k to start. fresh out of gradschool, and thats with no-minimal relevant experience.

SO COOL!

449 Bob!

I'm so very glad you have this cover. The story behind it gave me chills and tears. Thank you so much for sharing this story. Absolutely amazing that you get this piece.

Ron you deserve to be so thrilled over those two pages... THEY'RE AMAZING! And, they went to a great home! Glad to see them posted up.

... it is a Frazetta...

Hey John! Glad you chimed in I'm a little all over the place. I love my classics, mostly horror and sci-fi stuff, but also love some of today's creators as well. What are your genres? or are you all over the place within that time frame?

You've got some really cool pieces

double drats! ... let us know if you get a yearning for HeroesCon! if you do we'll add you to the coms list!

Hey Guys, Sorry for the delayed response. Was camping this weekend with zero internet access, and ran errands all day today. I'll get more specific responses to everyone, but I wanted to go ahead and say thanks so much for all the replies. I'm glad to see so much Interest! I think the idea of Heroes is great, and like Varanis's idea of setting up some sort of specific communication channel re: a meetup as well. Cheers everyone! ~Keith

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Freudian slip. Hilarious! meant dare. but it's also fitting so I'm leaving it.

Wait!?!? A group of highly intelligent, comic book enthusiasts took something over the top, or beyond the point where mere mortals date tread?

LOVE IT! looks like you guys had a lot of fun!

+1 on this thought. A big part of it is the interactions. Whether it's from a new art, commission art, meeting a living legend who is YOUR art hero. One of my absolute favorites is a Wrightson pencil that I got from him at Heroes. Nice finished pencil concept drawing for the monster from one of the mini series he did with Niles. It's absolutely, awesomely, grotesque ... exactly which series is slipping my mind right now, which is my excuse for being on amazon at the moment ordering the hard cover compilation But the most fun part about it was that the second year he came to heroes I went by his booth to say high and look through his portfolios. He looked up and saw me and my buddy Nate, and said hey guys have any other restaurant recommendations for liz and I?... Nate and I are Charlotte locals... blew me away! Wish he was still around

PREACH!!!