god503

Just now, speedcake said:

I’m doing no such thing. But I do wish baseball would come back soon, so I feel ya there. 

is that a peace offering? 

2 minutes ago, speedcake said:

I did, but as I don’t care and am just pushing your buttons, I decided to ignore this fact. 
 

Just like you do! 

Sure,   what ever floats your boat.  And the only thing your doing is interrupting my watching of the 2003 ALCS

3 minutes ago, lighthouse said:

I mean if Jerry’s signature is that big a deal to you, here’s a 1985 SDCC program triple signed by Jerry, Joanne, and Julie. All deceased.

get that page slabbed

6 minutes ago, lizards2 said:

Yeah - you're not getting Siegal right either.

I cant spell brotha....  Thats why i went with the science degree...

1 minute ago, lizards2 said:

It always cracks me up that rabid fans of a particular artist or writer, can't spell their name

Neil Adams, Neal Atoms, et. al - you know, the constipation guy?

Thats why i stick with todd father.  can never get his last name right.  

8 minutes ago, speedcake said:

Time for someone to put their money where their pie hole is!

AND because i have too....  Did you take the time to notice something Einstein?   ITS NOT THE SAME BOOK!

But I do appreciate that the 2 of you are proving my point...  a  signed 9.6 is worth more than my unsigned 9.8...  even if its a qualified grade...  

2 minutes ago, god503 said:

Payed less for it for no sig 

also not a 9.8. Got to compare apples with apples...  and you question my intelligence?

2 minutes ago, speedcake said:

Time for someone to put their money where their pie hole is!

Not a yellow label..    taste the shoe going down the pie hole

2 minutes ago, Buzzetta said:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JERRY-SIEGEL-SIGNED-SUPERMAN-75-CGC-9-6-DYNAMIC-FORCES-CERTIFIED-/153583521262

Seller is asking $600

Payed less for it for no sig 

IF SEIGAL WAS STILL ALIVE .... 

11 and counting...  and I belive this the coolest book I own...  and I own 2 181s gsxm 1 and ams 129

1 minute ago, kav said:

Not talking abt moderns here-modern hype/sig/flipping skews it in favor of sigs.

Agreed

1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

While that may also be true, realize it may also be a growing trend and that also may not always live up to its name, the final shake if ever definite will decide though

In short there will always be purists, keep it in mind that, sig doesn't always equal more in selling price

That's all anyone is saying

Unfortunately, with all the movies, there are more speculators than purists around these days

1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

Signature series and those who could afford these keys, and then have the ability to attend cons and participate has not been long out of the gate generation wise.

Plus there will always be purists always, and I'm willing to guess that everyone is, who also would make exceptions for certain books and artists....

There are few that would start with all the knowledge etc that it tales and would have nothing but yellow labels

For that cause alone, blue label will always have a premium, even if it's not viewed or evident. Plus with blue label, there is always the option currently for signature series of alive artists, that we can see is mostly what is being signed....

I dont disagree with anything you say here.  But if you do an average of sales over a period of time, i am willing to bet the sigs get more than the non sigs

Just now, kav said:

If someone cool signs on a napkin, I'd rather have that than an unsigned napkin.  On action #1-no sigs pls.

OMG!!!!!  

Just now, kav said:

Yes-if I was offered either that or a non-signed, on a book of any real value.  Superman 250, what the hell.

you really want me to believe you would turn down a sig from seigal??????

5 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said:

It would appear there are not a lot of silver age on that list, and thank you @valiantman

Perhaps @kav the SA current set of collectors feel like you that it may not be wise for signature series, but that could always easily change. Given the current rate between high low sales, it doesn't seem that bad to current collectors, but in the future is anyone's guess 

 

Safe to say the yellow label trend is relativly new, how many silver age artist, writers are or were alive the last 10 years?

QUESTION FOR EVERYONE HERE!!!!!     WOULD YOU TURN DOWN A SIG FROM JERRY SEIGEL ON A SUPERMAN BOOK IF YOU HAD THE CHANCE!!!!!!!  I DARE YOU TO SAY YES!

2 minutes ago, speedcake said:

The only “fact” is that “it depends”, as has already been pointed out. Singling out a few books that prove one point while ignoring the sea of others that refute it ain’t changing that fact, baby!

when all things are equal, like method of purchase, type of sig etc, the sig will get a premium.   Cant you say that slabbed books get more of a premium than raw???  Want to dispute that one???

1 minute ago, valiantman said:

The highest SS books are pretty much the same as the highest universal books, since "slab-worthy" often means "signature-and-slab-worthy".

Amazing Spider-Man 300    1988    Signature    4277
Spawn 1    1992    Signature    3782
New Mutants 98    1991    Signature    3001
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 8    1984    Signature    2662
Wolverine Limited Series 1    1982    Signature    2610
Infinity Gauntlet 1    1991    Signature    2390
X-Men 1 Sketch Cover    2010    Signature    2353
Spider-Man 1 Silver Edition    1990    Signature    2309
The Marvels Project 1 Sketch Cover    2009    Signature    1979
Uncanny X-Men 266    1990    Signature    1960
Batman 1    2011    Signature    1896
Amazing Spider-Man 361    1992    Signature    1891
Amazing Spider-Man 700    2013    Signature    1745
X-Men 1    1991    Signature    1741
Spider-Man 1    1990    Signature    1623
Venom: Lethal Protector 1    1993    Signature    1507
Avengers 1 Sketch Cover    2010    Signature    1482
Amazing Spider-Man 129    1974    Signature    1418
Amazing Spider-Man 648 Sketch Edition    2011    Signature    1359
New Mutants 87    1990    Signature    1338
Incredible Hulk 181    1974    Signature    1337
Outcast 1    2014    Signature    1326
Amazing Spider-Man 252    1984    Signature    1247
Batman 0 We Can Be Heroes Edition    2012    Signature    1242
Fallen Son: The Death of Captain America 3 Sketch Edition    2007    Signature    1222
Incredible Hulk 340    1988    Signature    1206
Amazing Spider-Man v2 #36    2001    Signature    1101
Spider-Man 1 Gold Edition    1990    Signature    1100
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Sketch Edition    2014    Signature    1083
X-Men 1 Special Collectors Edition    1991    Signature    1077
Wolverine 1    1988    Signature    927
Amazing Spider-Man 1    2014    Signature    893
Batman: Damned 1 Variant Cover    2018    Signature    889
Amazing Spider-Man 362    1992    Signature    868
Star Wars 1 Sketch Edition    2015    Signature    837
Dark Knight III: The Master Race 1 Sketch Edition    2016    Signature    832
Star Wars 1    1977    Signature    822
Amazing Spider-Man 316    1989    Signature    814
Secret Invasion 1 Sketch Edition    2008    Signature    763
Amazing Spider-Man 298    1988    Signature    758
X-Men 141    1981    Signature    757
Walking Dead 109 Sketch Edition    2013    Signature    754
Tales of the Teen Titans 44    1984    Signature    747
Marvel Super Heroes Secret Wars 1    1984    Signature    746
Batman: Damned 1    2018    Signature    743
New Teen Titans 2    1980    Signature    738
Iron Man 1    1968    Signature    737
New Mutants 1    1983    Signature    728
Amazing Spider-Man 1 Sketch Edition    2015    Signature    724
Venom 3    2018    Signature    707

Here's a link that will pull the latest from the CGCdata.com with grades (normally takes a few seconds to run): http://www.cgcdata.com/cgc/search/comicyearstart/1925/label/sig/orderby/submissions/variants/yes/

 

The type of sig also plays a roll you know.  A hulk 181 with trimpe wein and lee is worth alot more than one with just romita...   3 are dead... the other one still alive.  

3 minutes ago, speedcake said:

I’ve not yet questioned your intelligence :P

feel free, if it makes you feel better about your self worth...  

1 minute ago, speedcake said:

You don’t know what SA stands for but you spittin’ facts, huh? Ok

 

You are basing my intelligence level based on the fact i did not know Kav was alluding to Silver age with that abbreviation?

then these people got ripped off then if we are going to use auctions:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/INCREDIBLE-HULK-181-CGC-8-0-11-74-1ST-FULL-APP-OF-WOLVERINE-WHITE-PAGES/333511061155?hash=item4da6ceeea3:g:1ooAAOSwCOJeQaim

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-8-0-1974-0251066001-1st-Full-Appearance-of-Wolverine/202927169111?hash=item2f3f66de57:g:MqwAAOSwXSZeScNG