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Not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone in the thread, but here's my recollection of the times... Uncanny was insanely hot. As was ASM. There was a little heat on NM 87, 86, 88 (and later UXM 201) because of Cable's instant popularity. The rest of New Mutants was lightly speculated on, but nothing major. Nobody gave two about Deadpool. There was more of a fanbase for Domino and any price paid above cover for NM98 was because of Domino. McFarlane had his success with the release of the McSpiderman title. The fever was purely driven on McFarlane drawing Spidey. Marvel was about to do a major marketing move by pimping X-Force and Jim Lee's X-Men title. The drive for X-Men was purely driven on Jim Lee's popularity drawing the hottest comic on the stands. The drive for X-Force, quite frankly, was purely driven on the fact that all these other reboots were hot so this one must be too. Cable had a following, but nobody gave two about Liefeld and even fewer gave a mess about Deadpool. The popularity of X-Force really didn't have much to do with New Mutants because other than issues 86, 87 and 88, nobody cared about it. Now, mind you, my perspective is from an isolated small town. We had to drive 40 miles every week to get to a comic shop. There were a lot of people buying, but nobody cared anything about New Mutants, and once the sanity returned after buying X-Force #1, nobody cared about that title either. Anyway, back to you guys. That's the scenario from my point of the universe.

I was expecting...

Nice copy. It's on my short list, too.

Or you could scan the books and make a copy of the covers on your printer and safely store your books in a comic box. But what do I know?

Royce, I understand what he did was pretty much a *fork* move, but he didn't renege on the deal did he? No. Did you get your money? Yes. Did he get the book? Yes. Did you give him a refund, even partial? No. Did he flip the book? Yes, it sucks he BS'd about the reason, but regardless if he said he was buying the book because he had a vision from God about it, the bottom line is you bought into it. I don't see a violation, other than that he sounds like a used extra heavy day tampon. Just saying... +1 It was a scumbag move, but not really applicable for the Hall of Shame the way the rules are laid out. Just getting the story out there will probably be enough to keep most people from ever wanting to deal with him. Thanks for the input. I'm more concerned that he lied throwing around the names of other boardies in an attempt to deceive me for a partial refund on the deal. I made the deal and that's that, but felt the deception warranted a discussion. Thanks again. I will have to think this over but if I were representing you in a case over the money you lost selling to RR instead of your other buyers, and if your taking RR's offer over the other (higher) offers was induced through his deception regarding him keeping the book, grandkids, yada yada, I think the claim I would attempt to prove would fall somewhere in the area "theft by deception". I do not want to dismiss what you are saying here at all, because what he did (in a legal setting) is rather serious. But for his claims and but for his inducement you would have sold to someone else for more money. His claims and his means of inducement seem to have been false based on your account of the story. That's pretty serious and not to be dismissed as a "bad deal" or "business as usual". Though it may not be per the "rules," I think this is a good exception. I say put the guy on the list. He's a lying scumbag and I don't want to deal with him. I'm glad Toast came out with the details and put him in the spotlight.

If you recall, Heroes took damn near the entire first season before ANYTHING happened.

seems like the 1st print #377 in raw is worth next to nothing due to saturation. Im definitively going to try to buy a 3rd print at Comikazee next month. Its funny that some really want the low print version of 3rd print when probably not many even know that a nearly identical Brazilian edition exists and is zero in CGC. No offense, but people are simply never going to desire foreign printings as much as their US counterparts. It hasn't ever happened and I don't foresee it ever happening. I don't knock people for wanting to collect rare (or not) foreign editions or reprints, but to try to equate the demand for a 377-3rd with a 377-Brazilian is a fool's game. I know my own personal excitement level of foreign comics are somewhere between none and none. I used to feel same way. But after nearly 30 years of collecting, I found hunting the foreign keys fun and challenging. Mucho props on the 377 analysis. The 2nd print cover looks more desirable. I cant wait to find 3rd print copy Wait...wait...I feel foreign desire arising in my loin. Nah. That's not what that was. I'm still at none.

seems like the 1st print #377 in raw is worth next to nothing due to saturation. Im definitively going to try to buy a 3rd print at Comikazee next month. Its funny that some really want the low print version of 3rd print when probably not many even know that a nearly identical Brazilian edition exists and is zero in CGC. No offense, but people are simply never going to desire foreign printings as much as their US counterparts. It hasn't ever happened and I don't foresee it ever happening. I don't knock people for wanting to collect rare (or not) foreign editions or reprints, but to try to equate the demand for a 377-3rd with a 377-Brazilian is a fool's game. I know my own personal excitement level of foreign comics are somewhere between none and none.

Alright, it's worth an actual comment. Hulk #377 is the climax and culmination of a very well written, very well plotted 4 year journey that Peter David expertly crafted, with the help of McFarlane, Purves, and Keown. Beginning with issue #331, Peter David explored the psyche of Robert Bruce Banner, who the Hulk was, where he came from, why he existed, and what his relationship was with Banner, in ways that no other writer before him did. Not only did PD take the Hulk and redefine his persona so that the whole "Hulk Smash!" profile actually made sense, but he also introduced us to, and allowed us to watch, Banner's metamorphosis and acceptance of who and what he really was: the Hulk wasn't some separate creature who shared Banner's body and brain...the Hulk WAS Banner, and the different facets of the Hulk were merely Banner's way of working through his childhood issues...in other words, things many people deal with, but in Banner's case, exposure to gamma radiation gave his mind and body the ability to physically manifest the product of those issues in the real world. Even more, PD took us to the dark side of these issues, heavily suggesting that the Hulk was actually a result of schizophrenia in Banner, that the mental issues he had had so fragmented his mind, he couldn't face reality properly, which is why he could never be the respected scientist, husband, or even friend that is normal to desire in life, though he certainly tried. By doing this, he implied that everybody who didn't deal with these issues properly was really the Hulk, too, only without the ability to manifest into a giant green or grey monster as outward, physical expressions of what was happening in the mind. PD made the allowance that Bruce Banner WAS and IS a genius on the level of Tony Stark and Reed Richards...but he would forever be dragged down because of the dark manifestation of his psyche as a giant, musclebound brute who spent a good portion of the time smashing things, And "Hulk Smash!" was simply Banner's anger with, frustration at, and inability to even understand, much less change for the better, the things that had happened to him as a child at the hands of his abusive father. It was the angry and hurt inner child, given form in reality, with the power to DO something about it...although what, he had no idea, hence the constant rage at any and everything he imagined was opposed to him. The Grey Hulk, then, was the manifestation of Banner's teenage persona, rebellious, angry, snide, cold. Finally, with issue #377, after a long and difficult journey, Banner...for the first time in the character's then nearly 30 year existence....was psychologically healthy, having gone through and conquered the personal issues of his own life, and finally coming to terms with what had happened to him as a child. For the first time in his entire life, Banner was a functioning, normal human being, with his mind and all his faculties intact...albeit, as a giant, green powerhouse. But a SANE giant, green powerhouse. It is one of the finest sagas of the late 80's, and it forever ended the "Hulk Smash!" boring, two dimensionality of the character that had plagued him for DECADES (and was one of the reasons the original Marvel run was cancelled, and why the Hulk couldn't support his own book for 6+ years.) All the Banner/Hulk psychological angst that is so popular today? All the "intelligent Hulk" stories which have dominated the character for 20 years? It didn't START with PD, but it most certainly was given its solid foundation by him. All these ideas had been touched...but only touched...by earlier writers, with most of them, from Byrne to Milgrom to Mantlo to Lee...not really being able to grasp the concepts, and eventually just resorting back to "Hulk Smash!" stories. What Peter David did for the Hulk was JUST as important, and JUST as enduring as what Alan Moore did for Swamp Thing. And they both accomplished it without having to change one letter of what had gone before. Whereas, Moore accomplished it at the beginning of his tenure as writer, with the Anatomy Lesson in #21, PD used the majority of his run to reach that redefinition, finally coming to a smashing resolution in issue #377 (with a lot of really, really fantastic issues...like #339, 344, 345, 368, 373....in between.) PD took Banner, and made him a REAL character, with a REAL personality, and during the course of the story, did what all characters in any story is supposed to do: made him grow and change. Without that, real people cannot identify with the two-dimensional portrayals they are looking at. And it was a damn fun ride, too. No discernable story value...? I suppose, if one looks at just the issue itself. But that would be like bowing down to Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin at the coronation of Aragorn, and reading nothing prior to that scene. No story value, indeed. Good post and analysis. I agree completely. The Peter David Hulk run is one of my favorite stories in all of comics.

That right there is (thumbs u

Finally something worthy of praise. Congrats on being less of a dork than I previously thought. (thumbs u

You got a sale coming. Coming today...

That's a sick book, Howard.

Yep. My are still ungiven.

The comic is fantastic. Congrats again on getting it printed and thanks for my copy.

I wish you had shared this information two days ago.

Yes.

Dice calls it again!

My give a mess meter just shot it's wad. Someone PM me when there's a reveal on this.

No way this thread will hold up until Friday.

that is pretty cool never seen that before whats the story morning glory? Gold paint pen. No idea who did it. I found it in a quarter box at a local show. that is a cool book. Love seeing rarities and oddities and finding them in cheap bins is the cherry on top (thumbs u any CGc'ed? Someone filled in the white box with a gold paint pen. That is neither cool, rare, nor odd. Mostly dumb. Dang Dice, Sadfan blew your chance to sell this "rare" oddity to solarcadet for loads of cash. What a blocker. yeah sure did, I was ready to throw $100 at him.... $50?

Wow...I've never seen one of those before?

that is pretty cool never seen that before whats the story morning glory? Gold paint pen. No idea who did it. I found it in a quarter box at a local show. that is a cool book. Love seeing rarities and oddities and finding them in cheap bins is the cherry on top (thumbs u any CGc'ed? Someone filled in the white box with a gold paint pen. That is neither cool, rare, nor odd. Mostly dumb.