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On 4/5/2024 at 8:01 PM, stinkininkin said:

I think Bill (William) Woo was the last person I know for sure owned it. It was never a secret, and was or still is on his CAF gallery. It's a cool cover, but is somewhat odd in composition. I used to own a killer half splash from FF 55 (where the Thing punches Silver Surfer out of Alicia's house). Traded it away unfortunately.

I owned the pages on either side of yours. Sigh.

On 3/16/2024 at 10:05 AM, drdroom said:

I mean actually this is genius. Machine Boy! Machine Girl! Bolty, the Machine Dog! 

Nan Enihcam!

On 3/14/2024 at 1:09 AM, MyNameIsLegion said:

Warner Bros recently filed a suit that they own Machine Man from Marvel because he was developed during Kirby's adaptation of 2001, and WB own's that now. So there's that. 

Wow, that's interesting. I couldn't find any info about that - do you have a link? I have repeatedly heard about attempts to collect Kirby's 2001 work in a hardcover - stymied over and over again by the bonkers rights issues.

If you look at HA results, it seems like someone is interested in 2001 Treasury and #1 pages. Prices have been pretty high on those two books, not consistently but enough to notice.

Do people remember these? In 1966, Marvel released some "life-sized" posters of their characters that were drawn by unknown hands - possibly Marie Severin? [EDIT: looking at them now, I wonder if Syd Shores drew them. Was he around then?] Each pose is based on an existing cover or splash (the Hulk is from TTA 67) by Kirby, Dikto, Everett, Colan (I think), etc. The ASM was always the wild card, as the source wasn't obvious. I wouldn't be surprised if Ditko's pin up was from 1966 also, given that the other images seem to date from around then. And it's very cool, very exciting, but I also think it shows signs (like where the concentric webbing ends) of Ditko being ready to book.  That doesn't make it any less desirable - just trying to date it. 

BTW, I've always wondered what is up with the cover to ASM Annual 2. A Ditko Doctor Strange/Spidey cover would have been like a five-alarm fire of coolness.

As far as I can tell, these seem to be pieces of art by Jack Kirby - maybe - but to anyone who saw these and hoped that the whole "artist unknown" thing might mean you get a bargain....I mean, again, maybe?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134938630643?itmmeta=01HQ6CDVFDW976QAH23373G8TW&hash=item1f6af819f3:g:WewAAOSw1j5lzqm~

https://www.ebay.com/itm/134938559639?itmmeta=01HQ6CDVFDYDEPRC1WT4Z904YH&hash=item1f6af70497:g:btsAAOSwoshlzpkV

Check out what else he's sold, beginning with the splash to Amazing Fantasy 15: https://www.ebay.com/itm/134925086925?itmmeta=01HQ6D5G8Z55SQ93ZBY9TNNWH2&hash=item1f6a2970cd:g:M4UAAOSw-dRluc0x

Which he has sold twice so far.

Also he has two published feedbacks, one of which says the bidder never received the item.

But hey, it's entirely possible I'm just a simpering ninny and you will be massively rewarded.

G

On 1/24/2024 at 10:21 AM, 1classics said:

Sorry not to sway away from Kirby's DC 70's goodness and not sure if anyone's noted this one, but this looks to be one of the most expensive Kirby pieces that's come to market in a while, or at least that's come up at auction from what I can remember over the last year, of course with the exception of the Cap 5 splash and Cap 59 pages?...

ST Annual 2 Kirby Pencils & Ditko inks, twice-up Spidey / Torch page from the Jon Berk collection...This one should be interesting, projected $100k+, over/under?

I'll take the under.

On 1/11/2024 at 10:58 AM, stinkininkin said:

I was surprised on the DD 181 page with no Daredevil. Beautiful page from key issue, but it's an all Bullseye page. Very strong IMO. It feels like Miller DD is the new Miller Dark Knight.

I think that 181 page in particular was a great example of Miller's sense of composition - it's incredibly dynamic, and you just want to keep looking at it.

On 12/12/2023 at 3:23 PM, Chip Cataldo said:

Thanks guys. I have no idea about this type of stuff, which is why I asked here and (apparently) risked the ridicule. 

Hey, the first time I talked to an art dealer, I said "I would like to buy pages from the Galactus trilogy," please.

Now THAT was greeted with ridicule.

Don't sweat asking - you flushed out the Clown Story, which is always good to revisit. Kane might be the most forged/faked of all comic book artists (up there with Seuss, Addams, Gary Larson and Schulz). 

On 11/14/2023 at 7:28 PM, Will_K said:

I always get a laugh at the thought of this page (Avengers 20 p 10 by Don Heck and Wally Wood, written by Stan Lee).  Hawkeye claims his arrow is faster than Quicksilver.  What crappy Marvel melodrama !!  Gardner Fox never would have written a hokey JLA story where Green Arrow challenged the Flash with one of his arrows.

Wow, that is a gorgeous page! I'm not a Don Heck guy but when Wood inked something, he put his flourishes into it.

On 9/26/2023 at 8:58 PM, drdroom said:

Should we do this in it's own thread?

Oooh, the Terrible Kirby Covers thread? I am SO excited for that.

On 8/26/2023 at 9:10 AM, alxjhnsn said:

Glen,

Here's the full story as I reconstructed it from many conversations posted to this board. I also have this as a MS Word file.
 

 

Oh, thanks for that - and as you can see I ask this question occasionally. I can't remember the story, in part because I'm not a Miller guy. But I found the epic reconstruction of the process to be interesting. And FWIW, I'm pretty much in Scott's camp, with two asterisks - a) I think disclosure of what's actually on or not on the page being sold is beneficial. Might not affect the final bid, for reasons already mentioned, but knowing everything can only be good. And b) if I won this auction and one day the prelim to my page turned up, I'd want that, too.

For people who tracked the revelations over time better than I did - is this a page Miller touched or not? https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/story-page/frank-miller-and-klaus-janson-daredevil-190-story-page-32-original-art-marvel-1983-/a/7341-93080.s?ic4=ListView-ShortDescription-071515 

On 8/19/2023 at 2:28 PM, 1classics said:

I think you’re right about Brodsky. The early thoughts were always Klein, but more recently the consensus is more than likely Brodsky inks early on. I found the ad from The Kirby archives, interesting it was later used for a newer FF1 cover. Perhaps the AF ad was a stat as most of the house ads were stat at this time. 

https://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/effect/2018/08/08/ff-house-ad/

Holy cow! I've never seen this post before - when I held the artwork, I noticed the underpenciling, but didn't really pay close attention. That scan showing off all the extra detail is really interesting. If I'm seeing right, looks like Kirby's original version of Sue is in...some kind of saucer, maybe the FantastiCar? 

That ad sold at auction - I also have seen it in person at San Diego. It was owned for a while by a long-time (and very cool) collector. Always thought it was inked by Brodsky instead of Klein but I could well be wrong. 

On 5/22/2023 at 3:18 PM, jaykza said:

2 pieces from, I assume, the original Sotheby's auction are up at comiclink for next month. Looks like one has been inked sometime since. 

Any new revelations? 

 

 

https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FPREVIEW.ASP%3Fcode%3D2023may%26itemtype%3D1%26pg%3D3%26x%3D33%26y%3D21%23Item_1670418&id=1670418&itemType=1

https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAUCTIONS%2FPREVIEW.ASP%3Fcode%3D2023may%26itemtype%3D1%26pg%3D3%26x%3D33%26y%3D21%23Item_1670419&id=1670419&itemType=1

 

The inked AF 15 cover is not one of the Sotheby's covers. It pre-existed them by a number of years, and I haven't heard anyone call the pencilling into question.  (Though this scan is the first time I see the erased arm on the guy he's holding - I wonder who repositioned that.) 

On 2/13/2023 at 11:44 PM, Ecclectica said:

I'm a bit surprised this art was obtainable in the 70's.. but I suppose there must be an explanation.

Technically this piece was not available in the 1970s because it didn't exist until the 1990s.