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Things have been tough everywhere. I invite you to click on this for a good laugh: https://www.ebay.com/itm/203794562144
"done on scrap paper or some type of comic paper" is a careful way of saying "torn out of Jim Steranko's HIstory of Comics."
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On 1/16/2022 at 6:54 AM, drdroom said:
Aw man, they don't make years like '77 anymore, I'll tell you what.
this is exactly how we're going to get the rumor that Queen and Andy Gibb own the cover to Action 1.
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On 1/8/2022 at 1:05 PM, jjonahjameson11 said:Would be great if we can stick to the original topic of this thread…the Jan HA auction
This auction has a page from one of those classic so-bad-it's-good storylines, the one where Luke Cage travels to Latveria because Doom stiffed him for $400. Always felt it was Steve Englehart making a point to Marvel management.
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On 1/8/2022 at 10:42 AM, Rick2you2 said:You could say the same about Peanuts’ strips. Schultz reduced clutter to get to the essence of what he wanted to say/show. Rothko’s art gets to an almost intuitive gut—if you are willing to welcome it in. One is just more fun than the other.
With that said, I still can’t understand the prices, but it’s out of my league anyway. Like Banksy and his self-destructive stunt piece.
Agree. Also, it doesn't look like a kid drew it. Rothko would probably be flattered if he could get exactly back to how kids draw. I did a deep dive last night on Rothko + technique because I knew nothing about his work. And the first thing that came up is that the journal Nature has a whole scientific paper on how innovative his secret (yes, secret) painting techniques were: https://www.nature.com/articles/456447a . Should that make it important or interesting in your eyes if you already think he's garbage? Of course not. But I find the suggestions that if people are into the art they've been manipulated to be condescending - which, again, given this forum, is hiliarious. Rothko wanted an emotional response from people and he hated it, apparently, when critics tried to explain it or intellectualize it. I'm 57 years old and I've been in the arts my whole career. The smartest, most passionate person i've met with the most intensely honed aesthetic sense in every medium i know - I'd trust her for recommendations in books, music, movies, whatever - freaking LOVES Rothko. She used to sit in the chapel in Houston for an hour at a time just taking them in. Me, they bounce off me. But I recognize like the music of Charles Ives, the novels of Murakami or the films of Haneke, there is some kind of emotional connection in there for certain people that just leaves me confused. That doesn't mean those people are wrong, and to suggest the work is some random, tossed off nonsense that fooled everyone is a misuse of dismissiveness. Save that for dismissing the comic art I post.
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https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/Original-in-the-Manner-of-Jack-Kirby-228-c-EEB458A846
The person who forged this seems to have heard that there's....something going on with the back of a lot of Jack's art, and has tried to imitate it without actually knowing what it is (ssssh, no, let's not tell him).
Also the terms of this auction were, I think, written with flags dipped in red ink.
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On 1/7/2022 at 5:23 AM, KingOfRulers said:The true art to this so-called "Rothko fine art" is the art of the deal. The ability to convince two or more people that a Sherwin Williams testing substrate is "art" is itself an artistic talent. An $88M canvas awash with color that could easily be confused for the sheet over there in the corner that's used by painting contractors to determine if a particular shade of red is too intense for the duplex job. Only masters of salesmanship would be able to convince a group of wealthy individuals that it's not only "art", but that they should pay tens of millions of dollars for it. THAT is an artistic talent that most people don't have, and one that I truly admire.
Y'know, a comic art forum might not be the wisest place for the "art I don't like is bad" take. I invite you to take in the possibility that people who have responded emotionally to Rothko, for whatever reason, are doing so because they are genuinely moved, not because they've been conned. I didn't get Rothko at all, but then I saw a roomful of his paintings, in person, displayed in the lighting he favored, and it's not like I fell in love, but I understood why other people were having an intense, maybe spiritual response. There are a ton of artists who get hyped whose appeal I don't understand, but I'm generally able to remind myself that an audience who genuinely loves it might not have been manipulated. Or just manipulated. BTW, the play RED by John Logan was wonderful. I saw it a few years ago - Alfred Molina as Rothko, and he paints a Rothko on stage during the play. Of course, if he'd done it with eight arms, it have been more on topic for the rest of us.
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On 12/27/2021 at 1:11 PM, shadroch said:
I've heard stories of Kirby doing quick sketches for kids who went to his house, if they were polite and he was in the mood.
Yes. And sometimes he sent quick sketches to fans in the mail. He also did more extensive commissions if you paid him. However -- generally speaking -- he didn't draw at conventions.
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On 12/27/2021 at 12:03 AM, Readcomix said:
Here’s a great thread in the OA section on common Kirby fakes and such. And even if it’s real (which of course we hope for you!) the guys hanging out there are also the folks with a pretty good idea of what it might reasonably go for:
Kirby pencil pieces are a minefield, and have only gotten worse as prices have gone up and the opportuntities for bad behavior without consequence have gotten more solid. BTW, he rarely drew at conventions, fwiw.
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On 12/23/2021 at 10:17 AM, comix4fun said:
You're invited to our SDCC or NYCC or Baltimore dinners if we can ever get them going again. The SDCC ones are range from 5 in a friendly discussion to 20 in an unruly festival reminiscent of a dwarven feast straight off the pages of The Hobbit.
The Hobbit, but with the dramatic tension of consistently wondering whether the next bite of fish is the one that's going to poison you.
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On 12/19/2021 at 6:17 AM, GreatCaesarsGhost said:
Pages don’t get better than this. Action with a healthy dose of pathos
It is a great page. I bought it from the Donnellys for $1700 back in what feels like the 1930s and sold it for a massive profit of $300 soon thereafter. But don't cry for me, Argentina. I managed to keep a good one, too.
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On 12/11/2021 at 6:33 AM, KirbyJack said:
He got more than halfway thru the Janus The Nega-Man story which was eventually published in FF 108. I had always considered it his last.
My impression was that he drew the entirety of a stand-alone "Nega-Man" story for FF 102, which Stan -- for various reasons -- held back, and the published FF 102 was actually Jack's FF 103.
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When the book split up, this wasn't the first page to go, nor the last. It's a good page, but there are also three great splashes, quite a few action pages, a wee bit of autobiography and I'm even fond of the page where Jack just spent multiple panels with the Surfer trying to get his board away from Lockjaw. I'm unclear on whether this was the absolute last book Jack drew for marvel in the silver age, or if FF 102 has that honor, but it definitely reflects his anger and frustration with Stan pretty well.
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I'm a little sad someone broke the book up after 58 years.
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On 11/10/2021 at 5:34 PM, batman_fan said:
Probably one of Frazetta's worst paintings is coming up in the Jan auction.
Vaid take, of course, but I will sheepishly admit to kind of digging this one-armed soldir recoiling from the muskrat-bear vs ptery-pig-lizard. He clearly did it in five minutes but those were five pretty good minutes. I think Frazetta has much worse paintings, even if you don't get into the racist stuff. YMMV.
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These slipped my attention but I note this was pulled *after* the auction was over. A suggestion: if you see a piece of Kirby art that's inked by Theakston, make sure it has pencils. Greg lightboxed. A lot. Not sure if that's what happened here, but it would be a reasonable guess.
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On 10/22/2021 at 7:44 PM, cstojano said:
It's interesting that Felix's comment made no sense to me until the subsequent post about Dennis. Reading backwards, this is a weird thread.
Isn't there a list that someone always posts when people ask about restoration. This name is often mentioned.
GORDON G. CHRISTMAN
RESTORATION & CONSERVATION
330 SOUTH HORNE STREET APT L
OCEANSIDE CA 92054
1-760 458 2290
I have a long (and good) professional relationship with Gordon, but waiting a very long time for him to open up can be part of the deal.
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I'm also looking for a conservator - I have a piece of art where the frame was also designed by the artist, so I need someone who isn't just trained on paper.
But also: no insurance? The guy we're talking about has no insurance? That might not seem like the headline, but not having insurance is kind of a bad look. I mean, beating on a capitol police officer is also a bad look, but if we're keeping it aboout collecting, you'd really hope the guy handling your work wasn't going to do either of those things. Kind of high-risk for the safety of your art.
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On 10/18/2021 at 9:18 PM, lobrac said:
Zeck and Ditko may have passed by other in the Marvel Bullpen, but that's as close as they ever came to working together. Yes, Ditko penciled several issues of ROM. He also did some work on a Micronauts Annual. And don't forget Ditko's work on the interiors of Chuck Norris and the Karate Kommandos series!!! Oh, he also did a Godzilla inventory story but Marvel lost the license to the character, so the story was changed to a "different" 50-foot tall monster called "The Wani" who battled Tako Shamara AKA The Dragon Lord in MARVEL SPOTLIGHT #5 (vol. 2). That issue had a Frank Miller cover. #classic
I've never seen that book but the art reproduced in this blog post looks pretty darned good for Steve in that time frame: https://blogintomystery.com/2012/12/28/the-monster-in-steve-ditkos-dragon-lord-isnt-steve-ditkos-gorgo-though-its-pretty-much-steve-ditkos-gorgo-marvel-spotlight-vol-2-5/
i was kind of hoping the character design would be EXACTLY Godzilla with a false mustache and glasses.
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On 10/18/2021 at 11:41 AM, Chaykin Stevens said:
I don't think Ditko did anything new for Marvel between drawing Doctor Strange in Strange Tales #146 (cover dated July 1966) and the cover for Marvel Triple Action #47 (cover dated April 1979). In addition to the Creeper, Ditko was still plotting and drawing Shade the Changing Man for DC when Zeck's page was published.
Nice catch with MTA 47 - I didn't know about that cover. He did some Machine Man stuff after that, and that bizarre Captain Universe book, but nothing before that cover you mentioned. Also I kinda think he didn't work with Zeck, right? He did pair with some interesting inkers, like Craig Russell on Rom.
Can you guess why you probably shouldn't buy this "Jack Kirby" piece?
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He hasn't taken it down yet, but...