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On 1/13/2023 at 8:00 PM, alexgross.com said:
how was the price (24k) of this gorgeous kirby thor page? is this in line with the market for this sort of page? this one below was 38k, probably because it has even more dynamic and awesome panels, but i would have loved to get either one.
I thought the JIM 110 page would have gone slightly higher (28-30K-ish), as it's incredibly well drawn and has a lot of great elements. The AV 6 went around where I expected, and it's also a terrific page.
I don't see the Kirby market as soft so much as becoming more predictable, unless the page that shows up is A level or at least A- and fresh to the market. Those seem to still overperform. The best of the DC pages in this auction were, to my eye, the Demon - the rest were pretty good but not going to blow the roof off. I just took a swing through the archives and don't see a ton of Demon comps in the past - there were two bonkers results this year, 20 and 28K panel pages, but pretty much every other panel page HA has sold from that book has come in cheaper than the ones today. The data is, as the kids love to say on TikTok, inconcloo.
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On 11/12/2022 at 9:55 AM, Phill the Governor said:
Unless my memory is failing me, the cover to issue #2 most certainly exists.
I'd love it if you can elaborate.
One reason I don't think this is the OA is that it's not on that paper with the Curtiss Way demarcations on it. Again, happy to be wrong.
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Without the book in front of me (looks lovely - can't wait), my hunch is that this isn't OA but it's still really interesting. It looks like a stat of the OA with the additions pasted over that they used every time they reprinted the book starting in 1966. I'd be delighted if it was original, though.
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On 11/6/2022 at 7:55 AM, Phill the Governor said:I hope to one day become jaded by a Ditko Amazing Spidey page of this quality
This is one of the better Ditko ASM pages I've seen come up - I think the long distance panel gives us that great perspective of Spidey in New York City - and I also love how Ditko seems to think buildings were constructed like the Cabinet of Caligari.
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Howdy!
I have gotten many queries and actual submissions already - thank you all so much for your interest and your passion. I think we can say an artist is important if we keep needing to talk about him, and there's something about Kirby that means even 88 issues into it, there's a need for the Jack Kirby Collector to keep trying to explain what those pages mean to us.
If anyone else is interested, don't be shy - just drop me a line. Basically we're looking for anything from a paragraph to a full length essay about what Jack's art - owning it, chasing it, looking at it, being inspired by the physical page on your wall - means to you. Also scans of the artwork you own, or owned, or chased, to illustrate your story. I already have some great and crazy acquisition stories, some fine artists who explain what Kirby means to their work, some really interesting social analysis from overseas, and stories of meeting Jack at cons. I'm happy for our group and how even decades into it, there are areas to explore.
We're aiming at an Oct 15th deadline, so you have time.
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PS This page sat in Kirby's house for months, if not years. But it wasn't hand-drawn artwork, so at the time no one was interested. I ended up getting it from Roz as part of a larger deal (I wouldnt say it was thrown in or free, because Roz didn't play that). There was no Reed figure or dialogue balloon so I went to Kinkos with a copy of FF 51 and blew it up 200% and then exacto-knifed the piece to completion. This is one of those cases where Jack's art exceeded the ability of 1960s production. I always through of his collages like Harpo's harp solos - something the artist had to do for himself that we could take as an intermission - until I saw this in person and understood how much work he put into it and why. The page hung over my desk for a decade because of the unbridled creativity and because I loved Stan's dialogue. It's kind of a perfect feeling for launching into the unknown.
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Howdy! John Morrow, editor of the Jack Kirby Collector, is putting together a special issue devoted to collecting original artwork by Jack Kirby. Here's his announcement:
Since TJKC is for Kirby collectors, we're doing a whole issue ABOUT collectors! In #88, we'll explore people's quest for and purchase of Jack's original artwork, and what it means to them to own not just of the art, but the Kirby comics themselves. Collectors share personal stories about meeting Jack and never-published photos from their encounters, choice fan-art and fan-fiction pertaining to Jack, and some of the coolest memorabilia and Kirby art you've ever laid eyes on! Plus there's a gallery of Kirby pencil art, our regular columnists, and Mark Evanier moderating the 2023 Kirby Tribute Panel from Comic-Con International. It's a whole issue BY Kirby fans, FOR Kirby fans, and features a deluxe wrap-around Kirby cover with fold-out back cover flap, inked by Mike Royer! Edited by John Morrow.
John has deputized me to look for material, so I'm posting this to solicit your stories. If you have an essay or story you want to write about a certain piece of artwork you have, what it means to you, how acquiring it was insanely difficult, or even more generally what Jack's originals mean to you, drop me a line and we'll go from there.
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On 7/29/2022 at 2:09 PM, Race said:I said what I did because I am, for the most part, anon here and can say things that others cannot in our small, insular hobby -- a hobby whose participants (and most especially dealers) can and WILL shut you out/refuse to trade with you if they don't like what you say.
"I choose to be anonymous because bravery."
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On 5/20/2022 at 8:30 PM, comix4fun said:
Most of the time it doesn't have any impact on the piece or its desirability.
However, if it was written by someone like Harlan Ellison, Alan Moore, Margaret Atwood, Chuck Palahniuk, Stephen King, Jonathan Lethem, etc.,
or the old greats of Sci-Fi who sporadically saw his work published in comics like Isaac Asimov would move the needle for folks.Ah, to have a signed piece of artwork Patricia Highsmith wrote!
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On 5/11/2022 at 10:31 PM, drdonaldblake1 said:
is this DEFINITELY Kirby pencils??
The winner will DEFINITELY find it easier to flick a booger off his fingers than to ever rehome this.
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Long gone but well loved.
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On 4/21/2022 at 3:31 PM, Chaykin Stevens said:
According to Mike's Amazing World, Sal pencilled 13578 pages (7th most prolific), inked 8539 pages (33rd most prolific) and worked on a total of 18750 pages (again 7th most prolific).
We are ants.
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I got very very late onto Sal's commission list and the request went unfulfilled - I wanted an Elf with a Gun, as a page with him on it is pretty much the final missing piece of my collection.
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On 4/9/2022 at 12:20 AM, Rick2you2 said:
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I dunno, my hunch is real and real rushed. And as to "Who says I'm bad?", well, uh, I do.
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On 4/7/2022 at 2:59 PM, kav said:
As I recall (I don't have it handy) there's something in a fairly recent JKC about this, but it's not an answer, just the same questions you have. Jack really took his foot off the gas around then and the Mister Miracle books are kinda aimless. Editorial interference? Apathy because the other books had been cancelled?
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On 3/13/2022 at 7:13 PM, Aman619 said:
from all Ive read here and elsewhere, and the above post, my guess is that Stan donated the art. It seems plausible to me that at some point (if it weren't let out the back door already) that it would have been offered to Stan, or brought to his attention, and he secured it as his "right" as editor and publisher etc. And that this happened before the 80s when the art returns controversy happened. (the way so much art disappeared from Marvel offices, Id place the data Stan got the pages was after a move between 1965 and 1970 (maybe when Goodman sold to Cadence?) As the 70swore on It would have been too late. Artists rights were gaining steam, and art was also disappearing! Any of the thiefs who saw these pages would have swiped them immediately.
I believe bit was Stan because, 1) only someone financially secure would give them away, 2) anyone afraid of legal title to the artwork issues would give it away, and 3) anyone afraid of the potential for embarrassment and scorn at the reveal that he had it in his possession would opt to give it rather than sell it.
I think all three apply to Stan Lee... and hardly anyone else.
I think as Spider-Man grew into one of Stan's greatest claims to fame before 1980, he would have felt entitled to it. Marvel was considered the owner of all the art, artists never fought that assumption as yet, and companies kept art that was bought for use in their advertising and marketing all the time back before corporations set rules about such things. (I had a friend whose family owned Arrow shirts. Their ads in the 1920s and 30s used paintings by Leyendecker and Norman Rockwell. The family took them home to display thinking they were theirs to keep. But when the company was sold and the existence of these amazing pieces surfaced, they were forced to give them back as the purchaser of the company now legally owned them as company property.)
Assuming Stan had the artwork all these years, its possible at some point as Marvel art was being listed and distributed back to the pencillers, inkers and writers, Stan (as the writer) got these pages, even though splitting them 50/50 with Steve would have made better sense given their value and importance.... Or if Stan already had them, that at some point he spoke to Ditko who flatly refused them out of indifference, or even truly believing he had no right to them at all. This may tie in with Romitamans story of Stan having sold the Surfer art and getting bad press/reactions ... Stan may in fact have come to realize the pages would end up an albatross around his neck to his reputation. So Stan put them back in his files.
Years later Stan made a decision: since Ditko who rightly deserved them had passed on it, and they couldn't be sold without creating a stink, Stan chose to gift them anonymously to American history for posterity. And be done with them. Possibly knowing or thinking that his action would someday become public, shining a fresh benevolent glow on his memory.
Your analysis is very humane, but Stan's brain didn't work that way.
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But...but...but...it's from HeRitAGe aUxiOns:
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This scam's a little different:
It's a real piece of Kirby art, just a fake auction with information hijacked from a fake account. They change up their profile and email every so often.
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On 2/12/2022 at 11:23 PM, Carlo M said:
Does not look like Buscema to me at all. Only the Torch’s face is vaguely reminiscent of his style . Definitely ‘70s Marvel style , but not sure it is Buscema
I thought it was Ron Wilson.
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I need to check some sources before posting this for real.
Can you guess why you probably shouldn't buy this "Jack Kirby" piece?
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As a guy who thinks a lot about how to tell if Kirby is real I have zero opinion about pretty much any signature unless I know the page passed through Jack. I don't think it's a secret that Roz signed for him frequently, and as an associate of his said once, "the easiest thing about Kirby to imitate is his signature." Hats off if you can tell - I can't, unless there's something egregious going on.