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I've had them grade books at or stricter than the grades they were sold to me as.

Story-wise, clearly TMNT draws primarily from Daredevil. But the art draws more from Ronin.

On 8/30/2017 at 0:28 AM, OtherEric said:

Grant Morrison did issues of Star Wars Weekly?  I knew about his Doctor Who work (I have reprints), and his Action Force stories (I have the originals), but didn't know he had done anything for Star Wars.

I've got a decent assortment of other Marvel UK books, with a complete run of the Alan Davis drawn Captain Britain, and the Night Raven text stories, but none of the Star Wars stuff.

Don't even get me started on Spider-Man and Zoids...

Mark Waid -script. Adam Hughes cover. Decades-old super-team. Yuh. Drek.

9 hours ago, lou_fine said:

This page of artwork reminds me a bit like Lone Wolf and Cub which was also very graphic and a fantastic story. 

And Miller did covers for it, and, I believe, was inspired by the art (and/or artist). Looking at the Ronin artwork, it's hard to imagine having TMNT if we didn't have Ronin for them to spoof...

9 hours ago, Mr bla bla said:

I Love Ronin. But Im biased....

And Holy Terror was great.

You're 100% right.

1 hour ago, gopolks said:

Im from New Zealand, I remember buying a lot of those old archie comics, (they maybe still in a box somewhere) Question is,   the archie comics sold here,

were printed in Australia. Same cover, same stories, but printed in this part of the world, would they still be worth the same??

It probably depends on whether there's an obvious way to tell the difference.

12 hours ago, darkstar said:

People use the term first appearance as short-hand to describe a character's most valuable appearance among their earliest appearances. Hulk 181 isn't the first appearance of Wolverine, neither technically nor literally, but it is referred to as Wolverine's first appearance because it is a lot easier to reference and cite that instead of saying well technically Wolverine appeared first briefly in an earlier book and maybe a prototype also occurred elsewhere first but blah blah blah.

 

That's not how people use the phrase. 181 is Wolvie's first FULL appearance. That's all it's short for.

Moore / O'Neill. Ennis / artist whose name escapes me who did Demon and ...

45 minutes ago, jimjum12 said:

Has there ever been a hardback edition that collects the whole arc ? GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

There is, I believe, an Absolute edition, as well as an Artist's Edition (in which they scan the original art). They're amazing.

3 hours ago, jimjum12 said:

This is just my take, naturally....... but Ronin was a labor of love for Frank Miller, and it shows. It is the most inspired body of work that he ever produced. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

It's also...and I probably repeat myself here...one of the most moving, pointed stories about comic books, especially superhero comic books, and their readers. If you didn't get that from it--I didn't for a long time--go back and re-read it. It's about power fantasies.

2 hours ago, boomtown said:

Yeah, I agree, Aparo's work did drop off in the 80s. While some of it was him streamlining his style, it also hurt that he quit inking his own work. I thought DeCarlo was a terrible match for his style. Aparo also did some really sharp work for Charlton, in the 1960s, before Giordano brought him over to DC.

That said, he was probably my favorite DC house artist, that worked regularly on multiple titles on a monthly bases.

I was a big De Carlo fan. But definitely not on Aparo. I enjoyed De Carlo on Golden, for instance. But, yeah, Aparo benefited more from an inker like Sienkiewicz, I thought, who unstiffened some of his later work. Granted, Sienkiewicz also pretty much Sienkiewiczed Aparo, but that was mostly a good thing, as far as latter-day Aparo was concerned.

He did some recent stuff. For interiors" on the title, I recommend checking comics.org.

7 hours ago, CaptaenRon said:

Is 70k extremely low? I managed to snatch up several copies too by going to a handful of shops.

What a fantastic read, I have no prior knowledge of Mister Miracle but by the end of the first book I cared about him, was intrigued by what was going on with him and left with excitement for the action to come!

70K sounds extremely high to me for a third- or fourth-tier DC character in a non-event mini-series these days. Anyone got proof/evidence/confirmation of the actual number?

I was speaking generally...can't vouch for that issue.

What is what? What exactly is the "mystery" around this book? Is it a clue to a murder I'm not aware of?

Pretty sure origin stories...when not embedded in 1st apps...are keys.

...and if you never figured out that it's about comic books, then you haven't appreciated it. Which means it's underappreciated.

2 hours ago, Grails said:

I can relate though, I did not like the book and couldn't even finish it in my late teens.  Thought the art was ugly compared to the slicker stuff I was reading then.  A decade later I gave it another shot and barely got through it.   But something about it always drew me back and one day I was able to really see it for what it was.  Well, at least what it was for me.  I also finally understood its place in context with Millers entire volume of work.   Definitely not for everyone.  Today it is my favorite work from Miller right above DKR.

Exactly this.

42 minutes ago, NCAmother said:

Agreed, just fascinated by the mystery around this book.

 

Pssst: No mystery.

Amazing how many people don't see what a ground-breaking, transitional work this was. It changed a lot and made a lot possible.

4 hours ago, Grails said:

The Ronin does appear in every panel except the last.  I'd love to have it but my guess is it will end at around 9 or 10k which is more than I want to spend on it.

You're right. The hat threw me off!

1 hour ago, Grails said:

Currently at around 5k.  No action and shadowed by Daredevil.

https://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/frank-miller-ronin-1-story-page-24-original-art-dc-1983-/a/7166-92181.s?ic4=GalleryView-Thumbnail-071515

True, but though it's a nice page, the title character doesn't appear (I think?)...so not too likely to generate a lot of heat. Nevertheless, a nice page!

2 minutes ago, Westy Steve said:

I don't know about overshadowed.  Aparo is one of many artists who would be rock stars today if they were still with us.

Respectfully disagree. I think his style suffered as he got older. It was noticeable to me even in the late 1980s.

Yup.