lostboys

9.8 is the new 9.4!

I wouldnt worry unless it bothers you to the point that you cant enjoy owning the book. You could simply sell it on Ebay and buy another copy. It will cost you a little but at least youll be able to sleep comfortably with visions of a perfect Spawn 1 dancing in your head. Ive done it... i sold my Hulk 340 CGC 9.6 because it looked more like a 9.2 to me...I couldnt sleep. It cost me like $50 in the end but I now have a beautiful Hulk 340 CGC 9.6 and I sleep like a baby.

That would bother me...looks more like a finger bend than a "wave". I have serious OCD though.

Yep. I cracked a wavy 9.8 because it was driving me nuts. I just had to see what was going on inside. The inner well was making it wavy. After I cracked it out, the book laid perfectly flat. It wasnt in the slab more than a few months though...not sure what the long term situation would be.

What about reholders? Do you need a paid membership for that?

Does anyone else find it odd that no one is mentioning UF4 or TWD1...these books were pretty damn hot during the pandemic.

CGC did a great job...allowed our little 360 page tantrum. Seems we've worn ourselves out like toddlers...nap time. Parenting 101

Kinda like the Dum Dum lolipops on the comic con table after acetate-gate?

Also, that pic was obviously taken in a "work shop" and not a comic book room or comic book store.

Yeah, MOST 9.8s will have defects going forward as CGC eventually unleashes the 9.9s on the comic collecting world. Just imagine all the money there is to be made cracking, pressing and regrading all the 9.8s out there.

I dont like the way this is going down. CGC asking for the books back and promising to make the scammed whole doesnt seem like a fair deal for the scammed. There should be MASSIVE credits involved as well. Folks who have scammed books in their collection must be dealing with a lot of stress right now. I dont think sending the books back to the company that failed them in the first place is gonna brighten up their day much.

Honestly, I only started with graded books to make it less of a burden on my kids when they inherit them after I pass.

Im sorry but CGC should have never reholdered, without regrading, any book where the customer claims that CGC missed a MJ insert. These folks doing the reholdering are supposed to look for potential damage that would trigger a regrading...no? I think multiple spine ticks on a 9.8 should have triggered a regrade every time.

CGC may have been an "unwilling accomplice" but its only because they didnt follow their own protocol and regrade the books before reholdering them.

Has CGC ever stated the slabs were tamper proof? Getting a book graded and slabbed is pretty affordable and as the saying goes: "You get what you pay for" What exactly are we asking for here? ...to pay $100+ for a tamper proof slab? I dont think CGC was founded as a comic book flipping company but as a company that would grade and slab your most valuable comics. We kinda turned it into what it is today.

Im not sure why CGC would call in the FBI ...UNLESS... someone inside the company is involved. Seems to me that calling the police would be up to the individuals that were scammed by the scammer. ------------------------------------------------- I was also thinking about this though: Does CGC get paid more for reholdering the more expensive books? If yes then they will have benefited financially from the scam by collecting higher fees than the scammers books were actually worth. So financially, this scam may actually have made CGC money because of the unnecessary reholders involved in the scam and the inflated fees. Of course, CGC takes the huge loss to their reputation, which, im sure they would never see as an even trade but still...

Yeah, well... they dont even include micro chamber paper into every book anymore. Thats been confirmed.

I also dont think CGC can completely seal the cases because if they are airtight, over time that would affect the comic...no?

I like the idea of having the number on both the case and the inner well. But I also think, over time, someone will figure out how to fake that as well. What I fear is that the "graded" comic book community may not be able to survive many more scandals like the "graded" sports card community has. We are much smaller and no one really cares about us but us.

I simply dont think its possible for CGC to control fraud once theyve done their job to the best of their abilities. If folks can buy CGC cases from China...what is CGC supposed to do? What bothers me is I dont think, and I may be wrong, that CGC has been doing all they can to prevent this. For reholders, custom labels and even MEs, they should be opening the inner wells and regrading, not just slipping the old sleeve into a new slab.

I dont think the folks who own CGC are as worried as we are.

Thats true but that scam wouldnt have CGC in the middle like the reholdering scam does. Im pretty sure that all CGC is worried about. China may be selling empty CGC cases and if thats true...what can CGC possibly do to stop that? Thay can only control what is in front of them.

EXACTLY ! Either the scans implemented during the summer were a "fix" to this problem... ..Or theyre simply going to start doing what they SHOULD HAVE been doing all along...regrade any book coming in for a reholder, ME or custom label.