JayT

Looks like Descender #1 is back on again.

 

http://www.comicbookresources.com/article/sony-hires-writer-film-adaptation-lemire-nguyens-descender

 

when was the last time a movie from an Indy title affected the comics price.

 

 

Very true. Unless it's a big two adaptation, there are small spikes that don't last very long.

It does seem difficult. Even with something that was a legitimate hit that's going to have a sequel like Kingsmen hasn't really made Secret Service that desirable. I realize that's an Icon book, but still just shows an almost best case scenario (in terms of films success) and have very little effect it had.

Jeremy Davies

 

 

Constantine

Role: Ritchie Simpson

Episodes: A Whole World Out There; Non Est Asylum.

 

Lucifer

Role: Nick Hofmeister

Episodes: Lucifer, Stay. Good Devil.

 

I thought that was him.

He was great in LOST.

Young Justice was my favorite. They made Chesire look so badass I had to run to get her first appearance.

Sweet collection above.

Love Chrono Trigger, love Toriyama. I'd kill for a prime piece of some of my favorite manga.

Like a lot of prime manga art, very difficult to score something like that. Besides just having a mindset about selling original art, actual companies owning etc, I think the big guys actually just make way too much money to even consider selling their art. A lot is stated, and is true, about how hard the manga business is but the top guys are legit wealthy, not just doing well.

I saw an Eiichiro Oda exhibit a few years ago in Tokyo, just first class presentation. Oda sells more books than anyone in the U.S. can ever hope to.

So you're saying that you think, or at least there is a possibility, that in some cases a 1:20 book may have a similar print run as a 1:100, because the former would be printed to very close to reflect the proper ratios of orders, and the latter (the 100) will be overprinted, due to being nicer/more valued giveaway (or something like that - comps, prizes, retailer meetings, con giveaways etc) books?

No, I'm saying that 1:20 book is 1:20 for that book... Dr. Mirage Second Lives #1, which sold around 12,844 copies. The 1:20 book should be about 645 copies.

 

The 1:100 linewide variant of Dr. Mirage Second Lives #1 is 1:100 for all Valiant books that month. Valiant sold 70,000 books that month. The 1:100 linewide book is about 700 copies.

Oh, I had not idea that the 100 was not specific to the issue/title. Good info.

Agree with above about the Cooke variants. Definitely made me to a second take on a lot of books I would normally not even bother to stop on.

Which goes back to the original line of thinking, that these incentive variants are NOT a positive thing for the industry.

 

The sole PURPOSE of them, is to get retailers to INCREASE their orders. It's important to OVER state the rarity of them to get RETAILERS to up their orders, and to get the general public to BELIEVE it, so they are willing to SPEND more for them, thus creating an artificial market. Not necessarily on the actual comics, but the VARIANTS, because of a 'collectible' mentality.

 

Damaging to the true sense of the hobby, which is the READING and enjoyment of the stories and art. Very unfortunate.

 

That's not really aimed at Valiant, as I understand the need to grow - it's a tough marketplace... and many old school Valiant fans, still carry that, not saying this in a bad way, but some of that 90's rarity glee... they tout the stories though, and swear by the material and characters, i swear I'm not judging... and Valiant as a publisher has first hand, as of yesterday, showed me they have a real commitment to grow in any and all stores across the country.

Specific to Valiant, I'm gathering from this topic that other publishers do NOT do "linewide variants" (since no one has mentioned it), so it's easy to see why retailers might slap a $100 pricetag on a book that was a 1:100 to see if it sells. The linewide variants are not at the same ratio as single issue variants, but there is an order of 100 total books (linewide) that's needed to obtain a 1:100 linewide variant. That order of 100 is certainly more expensive than ordering 20 or 50 copies of a single issue. I understand the retailer side of it... I buy 100 books, I get one 1:100 variant, I'll see if I can get a good return on that 100 book investment.

 

But from the collector side, the number of copies in existence is what should drive the prices paid for a particular book when there are multiple variants available.

If a 1:20 single issue variant has fewer copies in existence than a 1:100 linewide variant for the same book... then either the 1:100 buyer is overpaying at $100, or the 1:20 buyer is getting an amazing deal near $20. Or, in the event that there's no demand for any variant of the issue... neither price is necessarily a good deal.

 

I'm not trying to dictate what the market DOES with this information, but I am trying to make sure the market HAS this information.

 

So you're saying that you think, or at least there is a possibility, that in some cases a 1:20 book may have a similar print run as a 1:100, because the former would be printed to very close to reflect the proper ratios of orders, and the latter (the 100) will be overprinted, due to being nicer/more valued giveaway (or something like that - comps, prizes, retailer meetings, con giveaways etc) books?

From a buyers perspective, I buy all of the VALIANT stuff digitally and tend to simply pick the cover I like the most and order that from DCBS. It's not a lack of money issue for me, I could buy them all, but I have to admit getting 4-5 covers of the same book just got tired to me. I really liked the Grampa variants and typically pick up Aja stuff. In many cases I don't think the cover merit being a variant (I know that's just a matter of opinion that has little to do with why they are produced).

Valiant chatter

Definitely zero problem hitting a billion IMHO. I suspect it will dwarf what the last Transformers did domestically, but we will see if it can match it's international box office. TF is gigantic worldwide.

I am just about finished with season 1 of Dark Matter so I will give it a shot, is it only on Syfy? Netflix or Amazon dont seem to have it.

I was pretty surprised how quickly Dark Matter hit netflix.

Read the first issues, really enjoying it.

She has a really amazing retelling of her time on that movie, when her and Patton Oswalt appeared on the excellent How Did this Get Made? podcast.

Thought it was really bad, and the leads, I don't know if that's just them in general were hard to watch. Some of the dialogue was cringe worthy for me, especially when Mulder was talking to the present-day doctor in that back and forth.

I will give the next episode a go, but think this is not for me.

For the people saying there's too many characters to flesh out, I wouldn't worry about it.

I'm sure at least a couple will be fodder to emphasize the Suicide in Suicide Squad.

Agreed. I'd guess more than one is not going to make it to the end of the movie, and one would be pretty early to emphasize the nature of the Suicide Squad and to emphasize that yes, while they are obviously insane, the government is putting them in a terminal situation.

You know, I wonder if Deadshot lasts. While I definitely see why you'd want Will Smith in your universe, is he a guy that's up for potential multiple movies and signed a multi-picture deal? I'd like to say yes, because these are the type of films I think his charisma comes out in (Independence Day, Bad Boys).

That said, I think if Will Smith is killed that's an angle nobody would see coming.

Will Smith will get top billing on this one, won't he? I can't imagine he'd sign onto the role for anything less. He's got to be central to the story.

If he did, he would merit it when considering the ensemble cast. It's fairly standard practice to give that to the biggest star if their roles are essentially equal.

Smith, like a handful of other actors, is fairly infamous for being able to exert control on a project (Tom Cruise is similar) but I don't think anything has come out that this is the case here. I think if you have an ensemble superhero film and Will Smith wants a part, you are very happy.

He doesn't need help or the cash, I think this is a good move on his part.

I wasn't in on the design at first, but people have to remember than when Ledger's Joker debuted EVERYBODY hated it on the net for a week. It was the literally the worst thing ever until the movie debuted and Ledger took Jack Nicholson's performance and mess on it.

Leto is fantastic actor and I doubt he took a weak role. Ledger's performance is one for the ages but NOBODY was buying going in. Remember who Ledger was before he took that role? We now view him as legendary but he hardly had the rep going in.

None of this means anything it could suck, the movie could suck, but the trailer looks great (except Killer Croc).

I think DC has had as perfect a week it could have had. I also think Star Wars pushing back the very next day stole the headlines.

Pushed back to December.

 

It makes sense. Less competition. And a better time of the year to move merchandise:

 

http://www.cinemablend.com/new/Star-Wars-Episode-8-Getting-Delayed-Get-Details-107237.html

Also, positioning for Pirate 5 perhaps.

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/01/20/star-wars-episode-viii-release-date-postponed-seven-months

Pushed back to December.

Really like it, but if it didn't have Killer Croc, I'd like it 1000X more. Looks really fun, and one wondered how to handle Harley, who beyond Deadpool is probably the most popular Big 2 comic character since Wolverine, and I think Margot has her own style but is embodying it. Love for the DC woman, with her and Gadot last night.

Whole lot of memories on that shelf Aggiez. I thought I had it made when I got the credit card in Kid Icarus!

 

Me too! Zelda, Metroid, Castlevania, Wizards & Warriors, Punchout, Contra...nostalgia galore!

If you don't sell the lot, I'd be interested in Legendary WIngs.

Everything DC dropped last night was fly.

I'm almost ashamed to admit that as this movie nears, I find my (initially insane) enthusiasm seems to be waning a bit. Maybe it's because of hype fatigue or the number of scenes we've seen already, but now I'm more in the camp of "I just hope this is not gonna suck" than "Man, this is gonna rock. Can't wait".

I think this falls in line with a lot of people. While Nolan did his thing, DC has yet to prove they can do anything live action that endears itself to the pop culture now. This movie is going to make a lot of money no matter what, they know that, but I think being on the fence on whether Zack Snyder can deliver on a movie that captures the imagination and takes some of that Marvelish benefit of the doubt and excitement that they just seem to lack.

Right now they are trying to sell us new Batman and Superman. I know some people really dislike that Superman movie, but it's fine, it's just not something that got people excited in the aftermath in the way much smaller properties did like Antman and Guardians. My only complaint really that I would have forgiven everything for was that always just wish Superman was inspiring. The only part in that film that was inspiring to me was his moms. There seems to be trepidation with DC heavy hitters (Wonder Woman etc) while we all sit here kind of comfortable that Doctor Strange is going to be DOPE.

Marvel has really mastered "the feels" something DC kind of has with Flash TV, but Marvel has done on it on that platform that makes billions, not the CW.

Personally while I'm going to catch them all, I'm more excited about Deadpool than Batman, and I know that sounds silly, but the DC movies are like watching The Leftovers. Technically a fine show, some cool stuff, but damn that world is a drag.

I do think Affleck will be just fine though, and I'm excited more for Wonder Woman and Aquaman, because I'm just kind of over all these Batmen and Supermen, I'm ready for the DC universe.

Hope this is good and have high expecttions, HBO's recent slate, while possibly quality, hasn't been my bag.

I know Amber Heard is going to look GOOD regardless of what movie she is in,and regardless if she is in a movie or not.

TV/netflix is a wonderful place for MARVEL to put its single setting, inexpensive powers (meaning the powers of this group don't really cost a lot to show on screen). Disney has a nice overall deal with Netflix kicking in, and Netflix is an aggressive buyer so I suspect this will continue.

I will be interested how long the TV will remain under Perlmutter, though, admittedly making things at the lowest budget is his thing, so it might be a good fit, and I don't think there's much to complain about thus far.

I'm not familiar with Karl Urban outside his appearances in the Trek films, so hearing his real accent takes some getting used too.

 

It also looks like Chris Pine's hair cut is another throw back to the '60s show.

Never caught/lack of interest in Lord of the Rings?