DonLaGreca

Update: Scheduled for grading.

12/21 Economy: Still received. Wish I never got baited into this terrible service tier haha of well....

This kinda just goes back to my original point. If you need to use a microscope to see a miniscule defect within a card then you are trying too hard. Again, these cards are being graded for humans, not robots. I If the human eye cannot detect flaws in the card than I strongly believe the card should be a 10. This is how PSA feels and this is why they will always control the market.

Yes. Lol.

Maybe CGC can send you a lollipop or something

I am not an "employee or a superfan", just a reasonable person that can understand the complexities of a situation. Complaining does nothing.

Do you suggest they not give you an estimate at all? I am not sure why it is so hard for your to understand that things changed since they gave those original estimates. Why is this so hard for you to grasp? And they don't take your money until your card goes into grading.... so they aren't taking anyone's money and haven't since February 16th when the policy changed. Once they grade your cards they charge you. And they issued a full blog post a few weeks ago discussing the turn around times and the process going forward, did you happen to miss that?

It was never a promise. But all you entitled people that come on these forums and complain every day as if CGC is not doing their best to meet the demand. Their initial estimates where not just numbers on a freaking dart board like ohhh hey lets choose this. I am positive it was a calculation they determined based on the number of orders they were expecting, the amount of staff on hand, and the allotted time it takes to grade cards. Obviously they received incredibly more cards than they could have ever imagined and they had to adjust this calculation on the fly and its been getting adjusted continuously as the numbers still increased. So yeah if you dont like the company or the service they provide because they couldn't meet an estimate during unprecedent times, than yeah go away. Or stay, but you don't need to let us know on a message board.

Lol ok don't submit again. You don't need to announce it on a message board, cya!

Lol do you really think when they gave this initial estimate things would blow up like they did? Obviously not and they have since drastically changed TATs to reflect the massive influx in demand. PSA shut down entirely due to demand, I am just try and be logical here. CGC is a business and they would certainly like to retain customers. They gave a rough estimate that they felt at the time they could meet and obviously things have drastically changed. They have adjusted their TATs accordingly and are beginning to meet these new times. Its unfortunate for the people that submitted cards in the beginning, right before the massive influx of cards, buts its simply the reality of the situation. There is really no simple fix to this problem. Card grading is a difficult business to scale, especially scale rapidly, just take a look at PSA. If shutting down submissions completely is the only way to catch up then you should realize how unprecedented these times are..

People are still making plenty of money when the price for bulk is 9 dollars per card, even after everything you mentioned. Certainly not losing.

I mean if it costs 10 bucks to grade the card and you sell it for 20 you doubled your money. Not sure how a 100 percent return is worth it to you.

I mean yeah when its $9 a card why not. Bulk is far too cheap. It needs a substantial price increase. Take advantage of it while you can.

You do know that those estimates are business days right? These are all bulk orders and unfortunately the least prioritized submission for CGC. But when you take some time to look at a calendar you'll come to realize that its been: 72 business days since your 12/17/20 submission was received - obviously far past original 30 day TAT but are working on this weeks submissions currently. 45 business days since your 2/2/21 submission was received - still under the original 50 day TAT by 5 days 36 business days since your 2/15/21 submission was received. - still under the original 60 day TAT by 24 days Based on some of my submissions it seems like they are starting to meet the new extended TATs so that's at least good. Obviously they did not see this massive influx coming, no one did, but lets not blow the TATs out of proportion.

4/6: Grading / Quality Control

My 12/9 has been scheduled for grading for over a week... sigh (well nvm, see below lol)

Would love to hear some explanation to your blanket statement.

The real problem is your last point. CGC grades cards for robots with microscopes and computers. They ding your cards for imperfections the human eye cant even see. They really need to loosen up on their grades and realize they are hurting their brand with these unrealistic grading practices. No one wants to collect 9.5s, its just reality. Stop hurting your own brand with this nonsense.

Update: 3/30: Scheduled for grading 4/5: Still schedule for grading

I like CGC. I do enjoy their stricter grading and I truly appreciate the few cards I have gotten back that received pristine 10s. And I know there are people that say CGC 9.5s are PSA 10s, which in theory is correct from a grading standpoint, but I just do not want to collect a bunch of 9.5s. Its just not a collection I want to build or hold long term and CGC has a real problem when it comes to this.

PSA caters to sellers and CGC is great for buyers. The PSA TAT extension, followed by the price increase, followed by the recent shut down should help CGC cards close the gap in price on the Ebay market, which I feel is far too large right now. PSA is far too laxed with their handing out of 10s and this benefitted sellers tremendously. I see soooo many PSA 10s that are just straight up 9s, and there are tons of people who are perfectly accepting of them and buy them up. Gone are the days of sending in tons of cards to PSA, getting 10s, and flipping them for cash, at least for now. Ive got a few CGC 10s in my collection, unfortunately no perfect 10s yet, but I anticipate these are severally undervalued currently and this PSA shutdown should clearly point that out.

The first astute observation you have made. Wouldn't be surprised if that happens within the next week or two.

Imagine you rolled up to Burger King to order this cheeseburger you speak of and there are 250k cars in line in front of you all trying to get the same 2 dollar cheeseburger. Oh and also there are another 150k people that paid for the deluxe cheeseburger, that burger costs about triple the price of yours and gets delivered much faster. Oh and also when you got to the window to order your burger, the worker specifically tells you that you may not get your burger back within the estimated time frame and it could be much longer, with no guarantee of when you may even get it back, and you smile and nod. And now you are sitting in your car honking your horn annoying all the other people waiting in line.....

Well get over it and just wait like the rest of us.

His items haven't moved because he's not the only freaking person trying to get their cards graded. Its a line, a que a god damn system that must be maintained in proper order. But this guy thinks the world revolves around him. Please don't use this company or this forum again and CGC and everyone here would be better off. Some people are so damn impatient its insane. Do you think CGC is just guna wave their magic wand because you cry on a message board? Holy hell