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    Press and Clean my slabbed FF2?

    in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?

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    53 minutes ago, Westy Steve said:

    Thanks for the info...Not to bias anyone's response, but I'm looking at it the same way...the book is unlikely to drop a grade with a clean and press.  It's hard to gauge the potential increase in value, but I think you're under estimating it.  Your estimate that a drop to 1.8 would be $200 is about right as I'm seeing ask prices above $1,000 per point.  I would think that the (approximately) $1,000 per point applies to the upside also, so a 0.5 point bump would increase the value of the book by $500, which is part of the reason I'm doing this...not to sell it, but rather to have a more valuable book that my heirs can sell (though all bets are off if the market gets just stupid with Skrull mania).  Also, I'd like a more modern case and I'd like the book cleaned and pressed for better eye appeal....but is it worth the risk?

    Go Collect is where those numbers came from, and those are selling prices aggregated from a number of sources.  (Including eBay, where there are some stupid crazy asking prices.)

    In any case, I'm asking $1,000,000 USD for my Dazzler #1 variant (no cover).  I might not get that but I'm holding out hope... :wishluck:

    Incredible Hulk #6 - Detached cover

    in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?

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    On 4/26/2021 at 5:10 AM, zzutak said:

    As usual, I have receipts.  :grin:

    And very nice receipts they are, but...

    Comparing a Golden Age Superman 1, Detective 27 and Batman1 to the Silver Age Hulk 6 is kind of like comparing my house to the Burj Khalifa because they both have windows.  Or my 1979 Chrysler Cordoba (with Corinthian Leather) to a 2021 McLaren Artura because they both have at least 3 wheels. They are not the same!  There's a certain leniency granted to older books and perhaps especially, key books. 

    While I could sit and stare lovingly at your treasures, I wonder if this were an Amazing Spider-Man #37 (or, insert some suitably vanilla book) with a detached cover, would it get the bump to 1.0? hm

    Press and Clean my slabbed FF2?

    in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?

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    8 hours ago, Westy Steve said:

    Obviously I risk the book coming back at a lower grade but in your opinion do you think it would come back as a lower grade with work done to it?

    The book does not appear to be over graded.  And what would a competent clean and press do that could lower the grade?  I mean a fully detached cover is allowed up to 2.5, and this cover looks pretty secure.  Certainly there is risk, but I think you have a bit of upside with this book.  A clean and press would surely improve the presentation and quite possibly the grade.  So if you're going for a nicer looking book then, yeah, clean and press it.

    If you're doing this for purely monetary reasons, then what is your risk vs reward?  Understand that the difference in value between a 1.8 and a 2.0 is about $200, and the difference between a 2.0 and a 3.0 is about $300 so there is quite a bit of price compression at the lower grades.  The cost to grade, press (CCS), ship and insure will probably cost at least $200-$250 (Express) so there is little to gain unless you hit 3.5/4.0.

    PGM Amazing Spider-man 300

    in Hey buddy, can you spare a grade?

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    1 hour ago, Ed Hanes said:

    From research in CGC chat boards..that is a matter entirely of opinion ..doesn't seem to be a clear consensus on tears and from what little evidence people have shown, it would not be anymore than a 0.5 to 1.0 grade reduction from CGC (for a 1/4" tear), especially on the back cover. Found this too on youtube. PGX gave ASM 7 with multiple back tears and large creases plus a half inch tear  (puncture wound) a 7.5. CGC gave a 9.0 to a Tales to astonish book with a quarter inch tear on spine (had other imperfections including a good sized moisture stain)

     

    Well, I understand your argument, and you make a good point regarding grade reduction.  But just a half grade difference can literally mean 100’s or even 1000’s of dollars in the value of the book.  In the case of ASM 300, just a half grade drop from 7.5 to 7.0 is $125.  Using your TTA example:  For Tales to Astonish 27 (I understand that this likely isn’t the issue you were describing, so please forgive my whimsical bit of hyperbole) a grade drop from 9.2 to 9.0 is $200,000.  So a small grade drop (due to a tear or otherwise) is not necessarily insignificant.  So, I stand by my statement:  Tears are bad. (And perhaps in some cases, really bad.)

    Disclaimer:  No comics were harmed in the typing of this statement.