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This is all very rationale and logical…..you sir need to leave….

I try to keep my Foxy Lady private.

I"m waiting for CGC to move the goal post and not just allow minor color touches, but to actually charge to make them for you as part of the guarantee not to get a PLOD.

1. why make knowledge of it public at all? To what end? I question the motive as much or more than the fact. That's drawing the scrutiny. The parties involved (the buyer and seller) may all be above reproach, and this is all cynicism brought on by rampant market manipulation in the hobby (and I'm more in the OA side, where it's more concentrated and egregious) 2. See above. I don't care how many zeros it has, or if DC or Marvel is top dog (it's DC BTW, at least for another couple decades, and I'm a Marvel guy, those are just facts, for DC to drop, Super Hero Funny books have to drop in importance within the cultural zeitgeist of Western Civilization, and Marvel would go down harder and faster) #. Now you make several good points here, I'm fuzzy on when it was regraded, was that before or after the sale? And maybe there were terms tied to the regrade and payment terms and even price were tied to it. That makes a lot of sense to me. I do think the timing was somebody's hubris or $$ motivation because of the Cap sale.

oh I agree, auction payment terms are quite sketchy, for all the reason's I outlined above. But so is a private sale. Show me the cancelled check, because there's no proof it happened or what the terms were either. There coulda been a cash trade deal, who knows. That you have first hand knowledge is great, and I'm certainly not calling you a liar, your rep is pretty pristine AFAIK. But even your first hand knowledge doesn't necessarily guarantee this was a cash sale.

when you time a press release to make knowledge of the private sale public, all bets are off, and everything is questionable. Everything. Period.

I'm just as dubious about a private sale as I am some of the public auction sales. About the only thing I would believe is a canceled cashiers check for the full amount. And if other parties are involved, brokers or auction houses, I want to see what the consignor actually received $$$$ in their hands, not just what the buyer "paid". If this involved a known comic art dealer, just as it's happened with comic art dealers bidding on HA- it's all funny money. They use fronted credits from the auction house or proceeds from previous auctions to bid on other items in future auctions. No actual money changes hands, they don't pay sales tax, they get a % of the BP or don't pay sellers commission. The IRS would have a field day if they ever scrutinized the Dealer/HA circle jerk. Meanwhile the market has been further manipulated as to what the FMV of anything actually is. Doesn't matter how many zeros we are talking about. It's more perception that reality, but everyone is cool with it, because most everyone "needs" it to be real when they sell or trade. If this wasn't 100% a cash deal, (well there was X % in trade, bah, whatever) I don't think this means much other than a well timed attention grab.

This is the sort of thing that Blackstone's accountants and consultants will get around to in a year or 2 and fire everyone involved, fix it (easily), and raise the price, but the turnaround will be 48 hours or less. Image processing workflows have been around for at least 15 years. This is literally the easiest money they could make, and they screw it up. It's the canary in the coal mine of a poorly run operation.

April Fool's Weekend Suckas!

I'm inclined to agree with Sharon's sentiment, modern corporate leadership training casts the role of leaders very differently that 50 years ago. It make a palpable difference in the culture. The same can be said for online communities. I've been on boards, and moderated boards OLDER that CGC, where the owners and mods are active participants in subjects they are interested in. The Captain or Quarterback of the team has a very different relationship than coach or front office. Mike seems to acting as a more visible facilitator, and that's helpful. You seem to favor front office. and not the Jerry Jones- Dallas Cowboys style front office. We wish Jerry Jones would go tottering off and play golf and stay the heck out of day to day affairs, and maybe that's your point. But here in the CGC, one of the reason's I've not been a heavy participant despite 16 years and a few years of lurking is because I felt the moderation was too Old Testament wraith of God with no explanation and here comes the fire or flood. Threads locked, posts deleted, things moved around, strike given by some faceless hand. YMMV.

this is what this thread and many others look like to me:

Like Marshal Matt Dillon on Gunsmoke? So which of you is Festus and Miss Kitty?

all the staples were removed and the all the books trimmed to be loose pages to form one brick and then oversewn binding into signatures and then that sewn together. Often the outside edge is trimmed too to make them even, but all these books are now technically poor condition, no staples, loose pages. There's no point in trying to undo it.

fixed that fer ya

Variety is the spice of life: Wrightson Swamp Thing, Charlton Sarge Steel, Adventure Comics, Richard Tracy Strip, Dave Cockrum Storm, and CatTigerWoman?

What they show online is irrelevant, they post the same stuff over and over in multiple places. 99% of what they have is not for sale or posted. I doubt they even have a working, functioning inventory of what they do have in their possession. When I said hoarding art, I meant that literally.

This is difficult to quantify but they have been hoarding art for 40 years. Their sell thru is abysmal but that’s not their goal. There’s a pathological element to how they conduct themselves and it’s very likely they have a collection in the 5 figures in terms of number of pieces. It runs the gamut of individual pieces that could be 6 figures to 20 bucks, but they treat II all with a bat guano crazy zeal to inflate its value because they can’t let anything go unless they can rationalize they will get even more money and art from it. This is why they go to such great lengths to create fake stats and cover dress and have been misrepresenting art for decades in every possible forum they have sold in. if ten thousand pieces came on the market? Don’t think it would have too much impact. That’s less than the active inventory of what’s for sale. But 60 thousand pieces? It would never hit at once, they have multiple family members, it would ultimately trickle out so as not to flood the market. Because art is unique and not repeatable widgets the presence even of 10k new pieces only matters to those interested in specific items. All that Jim Davis art HA is flooding the market with? Who cares? Not me. I appreciate the chance to grab a snack or a drink during an auction while those lots take 20-30 minutes of time.

Here’s some very easy advice to follow when accidentally looking at art posted by coolines, aka The Donnelly Bros. ASSUME IT IS FAKE CLOSE BROWSER TAB whats harder to catch is art they launder through auction houses with stats and overlays. If the art is pre-1990 and it’s on a plastic overlay, it’s not original. and don’t EVER buy any Gil Kane art from them unless you’ve sent it to a laboratory to determine when it was last inked (this is not practical in most cases, so refer back to advice above)

Yup, I see what you mean, it’s a little hard to tell without a loop to look at the rosette pattern of the printed screen dots. What I was trying to convey was that you still see “black” in the areas you indicated but it’s comprised of red, green, blue and missing black ink itself. It appears dark, but not as dark as it should with a rich black that is comprised of all 4 colors combined. That’s why that’s called a rich black. Most lettering is black only, no other colors so that it’s clearer and not a subject to mis-registration. The way it looks on his foot very much tells be there black ink was low, as the webbing would have been on the black plate only for similar reasons as type being black only. They were overprinting the black over the other colors to give it more depth and clarity.