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That’s what I mean - the Avengers one had to have been applied to the paper before printing unlike the other examples where it’s clearly stamped on top. And there’s something about the ink of the stamp that makes the overprint less obvious (and harder to read actually) then you would expect if it had been printed. Although overprinting could produce a similar result, but it’s gonna look bad and dry weird and not take to the paper right. The only time you print ink over ink typically is with screen printing. You can’t print anything on a dark shirt without first printing a white underlay and they printing the color on top of that.

In your Spidey example - what you are likely seeing is the black ink was running weak on the press at some point during the run. It’s unlikely they ran out of order, they wiiks have to reverse the plates. Black can and is often a rock black meaning it is comprised of 100k and some %of CMY. If you print heavy CMY you can fake a black but it’s weak. During a press run ink is applied to the well feeding the rollers. Their can be variations as a result. This is most obvious in colors that are a mix like a purple, where the precise % of blue or red will drastically change the hue.

when you print a light color adjacent to a darker color that don't share common color, when you cut the color, or digitally when you build the separations, you would have to build a knock out. So if it was a pink circle in a green square, the yellow and cyan plates would show a circle in the middle of the square and the magenta plate would have just a circle. They would often "choke" or spread the knocked out shape so that there was a tiny bit of overlap so that if they did not lay down the inks precisely on press for each color there would be a hairline of overlap. This called "trapping" the color. But you can't overprint a lighter color onto a darker color. It's additive. It would just be darker. A red Circle overprinted a green square would be red on green and would be a brown circle. Now with four color process, choke and spread of the overlapping colors is less important, because more often than not they will share colors since everything is 4C process and not spot inks.

these other examples that Marwood posted look to have been stamped after printing, and not before like the OP example.

now this is printed. Used to see this a lot.

that can't be printed, it wouldn't knock-out the Avengers logo, the logo would overprint and be more visible. This looks like a dye stamp and not a normal printing ink applied to the paper pre-print. I bet no 2 are alike.

umm, and the 3 Chris Nolan films guest starring Batman weren't? Or the 2 Tim Burton? Or Snyder? (I'm not even mentioning the other 2 films because they barely qualify as movies)

Of the top 30 in the 10 categories I only voted for 6 of them, and 2 of those were obvious choices (Hal Foster in strip art because no Raymond)

its seems to me that the root of attempting to extrapolate direct/newsstand print runs from their availability in the market, which in and of itself has some statistical merit, not in deriving whole numbers, but perhaps relative scarcity in this instance suffers from one big flaw: Comparing Fallout, (which I assume was a LS or otherwise didn't have a very long run) to Amazing Spiderman #667. Any comparison of a title with limited sales history, recognition, cache, etc to a title that had been selling for decades is fraught with error. It's apples and orangutans. Compare Spidey to X-Men, or Fallout to some other relatively new/unknown title. Run that comparison across several titles for several months. All issues of Spidey will be represented in the market always, perhaps uniformly, because: Spidey. I also question how uniform the newsstand distribution was per title. Making it standard to run 10% of direct orders for newsstands makes perfect sense from a publishing perspective, and maybe more based on the size of the direct order (Maybe Spidey is 15% for instance, because it lives in a tier that historically will sell through more on newsstands because: Spidey.) Now I don't know the in's and out's or newsstand distribution order selection, but there was some other entity in the middle deciding how many of each title to carry on the newsstand. I doubt they are reading previews, they probably had an algorithm that set quantities ordered of non-monthly titles like Fallout as a % of their normal monthly orders for things like Spidey. It's very likely a large chunk of the print run never got distributed to the newsstand, or made it out of the warehouse of any number of sub-distributers and it all got returned. I think it's useless the speculate on an specific title on any specific month, but figure out what was the standard business practices for printing, distributions, orders and returns, and apply that towards the print run of a title, it's still a swag at best, but you will never get the a precise number of bumps on a gnats nads regardless.

Here’s a page of art I have from the Superman vs. Shazam treasury

That more accurately describes the original comic art market. HA and Clink are just an accelerant that makes it happen faster.

The worst thing an MCU big budget move can be is.....average. This was below average. Is it the worst MCU film? It's hard not to put it in the bottom 3, and If I were to re-watch the bottom 3, I'd probably still think they were better. (Thor 2, IM 2, Hulk,) I re-watched the first FF movie with Chris Evans this week on Disney+ and I liked that movie better. However, Eternals is much better than the Josh Trank FF movie, which is the gold standard for Marvel character films made in the last decade that suck. That's hard to beat. I hope they don't spend a production slot for an Eternals 2. Don't need that. If a few show up in other films, that's fine. The lesson learned here is it's difficult to start a movie with a Team or Family (cross your fingers on FF) and have the audience become emotionally invested in the characters. Feige did it right with the Avengers build up from the solo movies. I came away from Eternals only slightly interested in Sersi, Kingo, and maybe Kit Harrington (but, geez, typecasting, another sword and questions of his lineage story and a reluctant hero) They killed off the 3 Eternals I liked the best that I thought were the more interesting acting performances. For sure all those people that spent real money on Kirby Eternals slabbed "keys" will have eternal regret in the long run.

OAFCon is all these things this con bills itself to wannabe minus the elitist undertones, attendance cap, located in the dang center of the country and it has FREE ATTENDANCE. So what’s the draw?

Is this some kinda of Stockholm Syndrome Performance art? I find these sycophantic posts too unbelievable for words, this must be some troll account.

I only quoted this because I couldn't "like" the original post. Fun fact: I now have 50% of the top 10 CGC posters on ignore. Because 90% of what they contribute is drivel. Once in a while they might say something funny (but still off topic) But here's the thing, if your "funny" batting average is under .200, you belong in the minors, or waiting tables at Applebee's. If those 5 people just stopped posting all-together it might actually leave room for some others to contribute, lots of others, with a lot more variety of opinions, knowledge, and experience. That would be to everyone's benefit. Having 10 people comprise 25-35% of all posts? Nobody really benefits from that save those 10. Now when I look at a thread it resembles a broken venetian blind with a ton of missing slats where I'm ignoring posts. So I'm still aware that they exist, they still show in the post counts, quoted replies, etc. So I'm all for what Mike has proposed, and I'd REALLY be on board for a site function that let's Mike meter people for spamming the boards. If you make 30-50 posts a day, in a 12 hour period and it's not in a sales thread, that's excessive. Some of you will of course refute and dispute this notion, especially the main offenders. That's to be expected, and summarily ignored.

just got my order in from @ft88. Books better than described. Amazingly fast shipping considering it's less than a week until xmas. I've bought books from him going back to college, which means a span of time touching (ulp) 5 decades, 2 centuries and 2 millennia.

Another thing which is already happening in the comic art market is flipping items that you just won in HA, Comiclink, ComicConnect etc. they get posted for sale with scans from the auction at a decent mark up a couple days after the auction and it’s guaranteed the seller has not received that item from the auction house. It’s conceivable they haven’t even paid the invoice for the item. They may very well be hoping to use flipped funds to do it. Buy 5 things, flip four to cover the cost and the 5 item is “free” to them. All manner of schemes like this occur on a weekly basis in the comic art business. It’s part of the reason the market is so over-inflated just in the last 5 years.

Most of the people getting there britches twisted about the idea of a rule change have a point if and only if they are waiting on receiving their CGC books. If it’s their book, they can sell it. It’s pretty easy to verify grading notes etc to verify the book exists. some dealers, who are really more of a broker in the comic art market handle sales of the artists they represent and sometimes the art resides in the artist’ possession and has to ship from them to the dealer or client. That’s fine. but what’s not cool, and this happened in the original comic art market in the past was offering something for “sale” that you did not own and we’re not consigned to sell on anyone else’s behalf. What they were doing was fishing for a buyer at a certain price and if they caught one they took payment and used the money to buy the item cheaper from someone else and pocket the difference. They would even post scans of the art they did not own. It wouldn’t take much for a hustler to post books that are hot and if it sells go to a con they already priced out or LCS and buy the book after the fact.

No disrespect to you man, I know you know what you are doing - just making light of the fact that this here hosted and skinned implementation which they probably hacked together the entire platform from open source and 3rd party plugins ain’t high end development by any stretch. It’s been a dumpster fire since they moved. Whatever they are paying is too much and not enough

you think this is web dev? You think they have a dev and cert environment? UAT? This is all config.

there's so many stories about how completely unregulated online marketplaces like FB have made it so easy for people to move stolen goods quickly without going through the old school reseller routes like Pawn shops, flea markets, etc. Police do sting ops posing as customers, but that's a lot of online monitoring to do in addition to setting up the in-person sting. The new tax rules for third party payers like paypal and ebay may take a bite out of these things when people get 1099's and there's more of a paper trail perhaps.

both lots. I remember your little brother, didn't know he was into comics too.

My diabolical plan Mike is to have the range of human emotions represented vis-a-vis emojis, especially the more mischievous ones, thereby diffusing and depersonalizing the written, tedious back and forth wall of words we’ve seen even in this thread. (You should see what this thread looks like when I’m logged in versus when I’m not, it like a Venetian blind full of missing slats where I have a 3-4 people blocked and it’s quite hilarious) But eventually we will have these fools well conditioned and they will issue themselves their own bans like the Star Trek TOS “”A Taste of Armageddon”

@CGC Mike