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Warner Bros recently filed a suit that they own Machine Man from Marvel because he was developed during Kirby's adaptation of 2001, and WB own's that now. So there's that.

I'm in good company then! seriously, if you look through the CAF premium dashboard by most views, the top 20 pieces of all the things I have on CAF are dominated by the Romero's, but hardly a one of them has a comment or a like. My most commented and liked pieces are a fraction of the views of anything titillating.

if you have a high six or a potential 7 figure consignment, you can get much better terms, that extend not only to what you give them up front, but anything else you throw their way for a year. (more common with comics, that may need to go through the CGC pipeline) Not to mention an advance on the expected sales.

I disagree, all things being equal, clinks platform is a constant. It has always sucked and will continue to suck. The only other variable is the market. Clink may just be the canary in the coal mine that is showing the weakness of the hobby in general. The dealers that are protection bidding EVERYTHING on HA when they aren't winning to mark up 40% to put on their site can't spend all their free time propping up every auction, so the more friction a crappy UI an auction house has, they are the first to lose out on those extra bids that would have bumped things another 25% at least.

Romero is one of the all time greats, but I might be just a little bit biased since I have arguably the best Romero collection on CAF!

I was just Joshing around! I have PBR in my fridge right now.

I think it landed right where it should, given that the fees are less, which massively distorts HA's number relative to actually consignor net proceeds, the previous $46K result was just silly, but that's no consolation to the consignor. They f'ed up royally. they would have done better trading out of the art at the 46K valuation to something more fungible, or several things to protect their investment. Now the valuation is 50% and nobody will touch it or it becomes that JLA 47 cover that every dealer in North America has had on their wall for the last 25 years. (some more than once)

I think the far simpler explanation is generational- the guys that covet BWS Weapon X are not the same crowd that drooled over BWS Conan, as evidenced by the recent Conan 15 result. That 20 year difference in time speaks volumes. Conan, a Pulp Character that, compared to most pulp characters was moderately successful in transitioning to comics compared to others (Tarzan, the Phantom, Flash Gordon, the Shadow) is still a fading star compared to Wolverine. So it ain't the artist, all things being BWS, it the subject, and who's nostalgia and disposable income that aligns with that are in their 40's-early 50's.

we are trolling you a bit that these are first world problems with lots of low effort solves but I will grant you that Comiclink's technical infrastructure for their auctions is analogous to the cheap collector that subsists on 2/99cents Jack-n-the-Box tacos, Captain Crunch, & Chef Boyardee Canned Ravioli, steals condiments from fast food chains, smokes cheap cigarettes, lives in their dead parents house, drives a 95 Chevy Cavalier, drinks PBR or the Beast, but has a complete run of DC Comics 1959-1982, most of the Charlton's and the single largest collection of Pogo, Snuffy Smith, and Gasoline Alley Strips and a massive VHS collection of porn. Here's hoping that Steve can influence Josh to change, just a little, since a number of their consignments of A-list SA/BA art just lost 50% of their value.

yeah, how 'bout this too: $25K hit 2 years later. WTH was the consignor expecting?

someone just took a $25K hit flipping a Byrne double page spread on clink that sold 2 years ago on HA.

That’s the OA!

Exactly. Which is why it is near certain it will never happen. CGC is banking on this, literally and figuratively. They would much rather pay-off any known victims that send their books back in, and destroy the evidence in the process. NO single victim that could file a credible criminal complaint is out more than a few thousand, maybe 5 figures in a few instances, and they don't know that for certain without cracking it themselves or sending it in to CGC. The perp will never see the inside of a criminal court. This is a romantic notion borne from watching too many courtroom dramas on TV. The individual victims are spread far and wide, across states, so local and state authorities won't bother. the feds won't bother either, because no one that comes to them can name any of the other victims to join the complaint, and I seriously doubt they can convince a Fed to read 396 pages of this thread to get an inkling of the crime. Only CGC is in a position to make that happen, and they are possibly the LAST entity on earth that would feel compelled to do so. There's literally nothing in it for them, and probably only more embarrassment.

CGC may also go the civil route to force the perp to disclose the exact manner and method of the scam, which they very much want to plug that hole. In criminal court that would be public knowledge. In civil court, the terms of a settlement can be kept private and then the perp CAN'T disclose how they pulled it off as a condition of the settlement. Hell they could go so far as to pay the perp to tell them if they deem it necessary, ban him for life, put him under an NDA, etc.

I'd just make a Paypal claim, and get your money back. That's the only way to ensure no one gets screwed, not you not the artist. You can always resend funds to the artist if/when the commission is done. the previous transaction is null and void if it involved Cadence. Cut bait, it's taking up a line.

the larger the number the worse it looks for them, not the perp. Isn't that what 50% of this thread is about? The gross underestimation of the tainted books that should be shared, and investigated?

isn't it normally the other way around? Usually Civil court remedy is the consolation prize or the icing on the cake AFTER a criminal complaint. The fact that they didn't start there speaks volumes. CGC must have more to lose or more to hide than they are willing to risk. Or, as a business, not a person, they just don't care, and the accountants said it's not worth pursuing. Businesses aren't pre-occupied with human abstractions like "justice" Even though corporations are deemed to have the legal rights of people, they're above all that.

Under the Tuscan Sun (2003!) is the only straight up chickflick I've watched multiple times because, and only because....Diane Lane

I think the fact that now we are slabbing just about everything- shoes, lps, toys, cards, games, etc to be more about the fact that once the collectibles market fabricated a commodities market for the grade itself where the object that is slabbed is almost secondary to be.....mostly.....greed and $$$$$. Those that preserved these things unopened to begin with, as in the case of LP's and video games, hot wheels, action figures have always been there among a small core of enthusiasts, everyone else doing it with things produced now in anticipation of it being worth something when it's GRADED AND SLABBED, in the near term, and again it's mostly FOMO and greed and $$$. FOMO itself is a bit of a curious cavemen instinct, akin to hey, some resource is scarce, I better hoard some for myself and my tribe because I need/want it. Valid if it's water or some putrid elk carcass in winter, not so much when it's Stanley Cups or Cabbage Patch Kids. I was going to posit a sidebar comment on nostalgia in these modern times- that slabbing and preserving thing in a pristine, unaltered state might has some existential appeal to our lizard brain in the very face of rapid, accelerating change- and that it's hits in middle age generally, but is more intensely felt in 2024, in part because so many things are so quickly obsolete, not just broken, used, played with,consumed or worn out- because in theory they can be replaced with a new copy or edition, or reprint- but no- OBSOLETE. Compass, film camera, digital camera, game cartridge, lp, cassette, 8-track, CD, SACD, DVD, Blu-ray, calculator, books, flashlight, maps, comics, newspapers, magazines, photographs, checkbooks, etc - OBSOLETE with just my phone. If I made a conscious effort, I could digitize 30% of everything I own and it would fit in a shoebox and save an incredible amount of space. Gen-X is the last generation to live in both extremes of this. Both my boomer parents are passed, they missed or never adopted many of the things that replaced the aforementioned. Yet, before he died, my dad was amused when I told him that Barnes and Noble, after 20 years of not having ANY- now had move vinyl LPs than CD's and DVD's combined. People younger than me seem fascinated by possibly one of the most inefficient, labor intensive, manual and damage prone physical media artifacts ever created. Objectively, nothing sucks more than a vinyl LP (though I concede they do sound better in many instances, for a variety of technical reasons that I won't get into) Who saw that coming? (Gene apparently, he must have 10 storage unit's full of cr@p he hoarded in his youth or he ran a shoplifting ring of nerds, but I digress...) My only thought is the pendulum has swung so far away from physical media and objects, so much is now rented and subscribed that it has had some negative effect on our sense of object permanence, which is fundamental to forming healthy attachments. Physical objects provide a certain comfort and stability, and is cited a lot in attachment theory and related developmental psychology concepts. Transitional objects of attachment, such as a stuffed bunny or a favorite blanket are usually abandoned, if ever even strongly held, in healthily children, with secure environments. I don't think we ever really lose that, in some abstract way, as the familiar is innately comforting over the unfamiliar. Even those that like new things, places, people, experiences, come from some "home base" from which their security and confidence in the world in grounded. It may be family, community, their dog, garden, home, a room full of OA or comics. Nostalgia is not the same as collecting, though they often overlap. the former is emotional, the later is is more compulsive. They have therapy and meds for both. Or you can slab all your cr@p. In a world that is getting smaller, more virtual, more crowded, with scarcer resources and more rented and subscribed services over actual goods, that is going to trigger some psychological reaction multiplied times just about everyone in some subtle and sometimes unsettling ways. Maybe this is just an early tell of the eventual "Behavioral Sink" of our society, as coined by Calhoun over 60 years ago. Behavioral Sink

I'd forgotten about the color one that @Readcomix was referring to, I was thinking the B&W mag:

Unknown World's of Science Fiction had Day of the Triffids, probably some others. the 2 Haunt of Horror Marvel Digests (not the magazine of the same title) has reprinted horror stories with spot illustrations.

I disagree for the fact that they are first: Graded CGC Signature Series slabbed comics. HA and other auctions have dedicated auctions for such artifacts. It’s not a raw comic or a backing board with a doodle where the main object is the doodle. Do they put published original cover art next to the slabs? No. Get that outta here or see your consignments suffer.

So, if you are looking to see what diamonds in the rough might lurk in next weeks Wednesday HA Original art auction: Look no further. I mean it. Look no further. Don't waste your time. My condolences to the other consignors when no one shows up to bid on the like 8 things even worth looking at. Why is that? because next Wed you will have no less than 71 CGC Signature Series Slabbed Sketch Covers to suffer through before you get to the real original art. They are spread out all over the auction. they represent 25% of the lots in the auction. That's demonstrably worse that the Jim Davis Garfield auction lots. At least those were consecutive so you could plan a nap, a quick lunch, listen to at least one album side of Blonde on Blonde. Just who the hell is the genius that curated the contents of this auction?

When Xenozoic Tales releases another monthly issue….

What? Well that explains his laissez faire attitude about a great many things. 🧐. He probably missed this dust up on the comical-l list in 1999 because he couldn't link his AOL account to the listserv.