Eric Perry

3 minutes ago, Eric Perry said:

Daredevil 181.

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1 hour ago, GPCEE said:

I had one other thought.... If the cover is too sexual they will refuse to slab it. Boundless Comics comes to mind.

Daredevil 181.

7 minutes ago, GPCEE said:

No, they would just use a magazine slab. It has to do with how the comic was produced. The cover hangs over the pages too much and slabbing it damages the cover.

Fascinating.  A process meant to preserve and protect would instead cause damage.  Thanks for the info.

45 minutes ago, GPCEE said:

Most common reason is cover overhang. 

So, a book that winds up being too large for the holder?

1 hour ago, Jennifer F. said:

Good morning,

Occasionally, a book cannot be graded or encapsulated due to the condition of the book or other various factors.  When you receive your order back, there should be a notation on the book in question as to why it was not graded.  Once you have the book back, if you still have a question, please contact our customer service department for more details.  You can reach them at 877-662-6642 or by email at submissions@cgccomics.com.

Thanks,

Thanks for the info.  The book appeared to be around 8.5 - 9.0 or so.  I'll be curious to see why it couldn't be graded/encapsulated.  Clearly, I missed something.

5 hours ago, Eric Perry said:

...I didn't request a pre-screen, so that can't be the reason...

Quick additional note: this was a 10 book order.  The minimum number to even have the option for pre-screen is 25, correct?

My first submission just hit the stage where I can see the grades.  On one of the books, under "category," the word "reject" appears.

• It was a Modern submission (Submission #3811638) and the book is from 1982.  That qualifies as Modern.
• I didn't request a pre-screen, so that can't be the reason.
• If it was restored/altered, that should have shown on the label.
• There are no grader notes available.

The only thing I can think of is a counterfeit.  Did my LCS sell me a fake comic, and that's why it was rejected?

32 minutes ago, GACollectibles said:

Kind of a harsh thing to do to him on the first day on the job. Do they make a case that large?

#stopthehazing

12 minutes ago, Tony S said:

You just described why professional 3rd party grading and encapsulation exists in the hobby.  Arguing about grade was just another way to negotiate the price.  With professional grading and encapsulation, the negotiation is only about price. 

Ever had someone try to beat you up on price because your item "looks overgraded" to them?

2 hours ago, kimik said:

...I have found that many collectors and dealers have two different grading standards - one for buying and a much looser one for selling...

This is one of the most annoying things I've encountered in the world of collectibles.  The particular behavior that infuriates me is this:

Person A has an item for sale.  Person B points out every conceivable thing they can to drive the price down.  They'll even "haggle" about the grade of the item (that's not a NM- book...it's VF+ at best!!!) they're trying to buy.

A week later, person B has the item, lists it for sale, and describes it as NM.

Person B is a 

35 minutes ago, jcjames said:

 

...250,000 books that were printed since 2020 that are now slabbed - that's almost 5% of all books EVER slabbed - there are sooooo many new-release moderns being slabbed...

 

 

The card graders have "Ultra-Modern" tiers and charge a higher price.  I wonder what the feedback would've been had CGC gone that route.

3 hours ago, Foolkiller said:

Nobody likes it when change in general occurs and certainly not when prices are raised.  CGC is a business, not a charity and it's primary goal is to make money -- like every other business.  The vintage comic market is hotter than ever and people are sending books in at a record pace.  They've had to expand in order to meet demand and that obviously has costs, but the reason to do so is so that they can make more money.  Just like the fact that the reason most people send books in for encapsulation is to increase their value.  In the free market system we all have a choice -- we could 1) No longer submit and sell books raw.  2) Use a competitor 3) Continue to submit.  Most people are going to choose 3.  I have zero problem with the changes -- CGC has necessarily become more corporate over time -- raising prices is a further step in that direction.  But the reality is, why shouldn't they be taking advantage of this market the same way most of us are?  CGC has helped all of us for many, many years increase the value of our collections or businesses.  They've become an essential component of this industry/business.  If you are opposed to their actions or prices, you do have choices.  

This post is spot on.

1 minute ago, awakeintheashes said:

What your describing has been happening with moderns books for a very long time. It’s nothing new. 

Makes sense.  Again, most of my experience regarding grading companies has been with sports cards.  Guess it took that hobby a little while to catch up.

My submission was mailed 4/9.  USPS website showed it was delivered on 4/14.

As of last night, the new CGC tool shows:

"Your package has been received. It will appear in the Submission Tracking tool once it has been opened."

I noticed there is now a "Confirm Package Receipt" feature.  This is fantastic!

2 minutes ago, Jennifer F. said:

Good morning,

Thanks for your message. If you list the value $200 or less then you can put that under the Value tier.  The only thing that might change, if, when the graders examine the book, they feel the value would exceed $200 they can decide to bump it to a higher tier.  However, it would still remain on the existing invoice with the other books so they would still be shipped back together in that case.

If you have any other questions, please let us know.  Thank you!

That is tremendously helpful info.  Thank you so much.

Have a wonderful day. 

Hi, everyone.

I am getting together a Value submission and have 9 books ready to go. There is a 10th I'd like to include; however, I'm not sure if it would qualify.  It's a mid-grade copy of Ghost Rider 1 from 1967.  The book is definitely $200 or less raw (I paid $50) but may be worth a shade more than $200 when graded.

The main thing I'm looking to avoid is having my order split into two submissions.  It simply wouldn't be worth it for me to pay the separate shipping/insurance ($32) and the higher grading fee (+$11) for this single book.

So, my question:

Does a mid-grade copy of Ghost Rider 1 from 1967 qualify for grading at the Value tier?

Thanks, in advance, for your guidance.  I look forward to your reply.

Best regards,

Eric

My first purchase on this forum was a four book lot from USCMitch.  He communicated well and was a pleasure to deal with.  The books arrived quickly, were described accurately, and were packaged superbly.

This was an absolutely perfect transaction!  Thank you very much.

Full back cover pic

Full front cover pic

I believe this Daredevil #50 to be faded by direct sunlight.  Even though the ink reflects light quite well, the reds have turned orange.

There is a price-sticker sized portion of the front cover, near the upper right corner, which has colors that seem far less affected.  This is easiest to spot between the I and L in Daredevil.

The back cover looks normal, with regard to red ink appearing as it should.  21st Century Epic Collection included to show an example of unaffected red ink.

How much would CGC downgrade a 5.5 or so copy for this much fading?

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2 hours ago, Galen130 said:

New comics can look like that...it’s not necessarily from improper handling.  It would be from the production.  Barring any actual defects, like color breaking spine tics, this would be acceptable to CGC for high grades...9.8.  Pressing always helps too, for peace of mind. 

Most of my collecting experience has been in the world of sports cards.  I'm still adjusting to the differences in grading standards.

LOL - after a second glance, I realized all the interior pages are equally messed up.

Same questions are on my mind, though.  Any advice would be appreciated.