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I'll take a stab at this.

I think they did a pretty decent job pulling together a first trailer without revealing all the goods. Otherwise if they showed some of the big scenes with superheroes fighting baddies, then there is the complaint they revealed too much. It's a tough job figuring out how much to reveal to keep people excited before you go too far. Totally agree with you on this. I really don't like when trailers give away too much, which I thought happened with BvS. One scene that I really like was Bruce sitting in Barry Allen's room waiting on him to arrive. The framing of that shot is cool. I do like what I see in the trailer, and if they will give us more heroes in costumes fighting, then they may get this thing back on track.

Looks good, but I want superheroes in costumes. Fighting and doing their thing in costumes for a lot of the movie not just a few minutes. Here's hoping they will surprise us with more hero action in this one.

Me too. I was eating this stuff up today during travel, wife fell asleep. Overall, a win-win for me!

Well I was only able to use the link on my desktop. Im not the most tech savvy guy in the world but I went onto my iTunes account and went to podcasts and typed in comic zone radio and found a TREASURE TROVE of interviews!!! Finished up the Jay interviews and moving onto Bedrock tonight. All this done from my phone so yes you are able to do it. There are like well over 200 of them!!! I don't know on phones other than iPhones but I am sure it is something that can be accomplished. Hope this helps. Thanks. Don't know why I didn't think about checking iTunes. Plan on listening to the Bedrock interviews today on a car ride back home.

Agreed. Would like to know the same. Does anyone know any other dealer interviews on Comic Zone that would be a good listen?

This sounds so familiar. Such a fun time to be a collector. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Yes. It seems like the late '70's were a great time to get into collecting. At least it was for me. Loved for the OSPG back then

Jay was very effusive in his compliments of Joe and Steve Geppi. In fact he held them both up as tops in the comic business for ethics, honesty, graciousness, etc... One of the more interesting aspects of the sessions were his many comments sprinkled throughout where he knew that there were more than a few people that had no good reason to like him, both business wise and personally.

Thanks for sharing. As to the polarizing figure, I may be wrong. It seemed he knew he had done some wrongs, so I could imagine that there may have been some hard feelings from those that associated with him. However, I may be wrong in that assumption.

As I shared in the CGC case thread, I took the time to listen to the 4 part interview of Jay Maybruck with Vinny Zurzolo from 2008. Wow, what a listen! I am sure that a lot of you here in the Gold Forum listened to it when it was first aired, but I missed it. So, big thanks to jimbo_707 for pointing it out and providing a link to help find it. I had never heard of Jay, so all of this was new to me and thankfully, very, very interesting. Vinny did a perfect job of interviewing and, Jay was the perfect guest. Loved the fact that Vinny would just throw out topics and people, and for the most part just let Jay talk. One thing he had going for him though, Jay was talkative, straight forward and did a super job of sharing his stories. So after listening, I have a few questions that I hope some of you would be willing to shed some light on. 1. How was this interview received by dealers and comic book people at the time they aired? I would think there would be some mixed feelings as I imagine he may have been a polarizing figure from the past. 2. How did the sale of the Portfolios go? 3. Were there any big revelations that came out of this interview for any of you?

More than $871m is all that matters... Is there any significance to that number, such as it broke even?

Love Adventure Comics #39! Thanks for posting.

This. And I don't buy the negative-spin-on-news thing, to garner clicks or otherwise. These same critics loved Deadpool; they loved the Nolan trilogy -- they just didn't love BvS. Yep. And for good reason, it was a bit of a mess. My biggest hope is that in the JLA movie, that we get the hero version of Bats instead of the non-reasoning, over-reactive version we got in BvS.

Here's my 2 cents on Iron's interview: He thought it "deservedly" got a bashing from the critics with the major fault it being overstuffed. However, he doesn't seem to convey that the movie was bad or terrible. Irons comes across as being glad to be a part of the franchise and one that he was willingly and continues to be a willing participant, and not for the money. Sounds like he thinks it has a good future for being a quality produced/written franchise.

Thanks for the update.

The foundation of the entire story is something new. A Batman we've never seen before. This Batman has already had a twenty year career in a world without Superman. And the story opens with this Batman well along a downward spiral, becoming 'cruel' (as Alfred puts it). Thinking he's wasted his life. Bitter. Anyway, Batman of this story isn't at the top of his game. Just the opposite. And his motivations are in line with his mindset. He did everything you mention (investigated, figured things out, weighed the possibilities), becoming Luthor's pawn and almost Superman's killer. And there lies the problem with the movie for me. I would like to have seen a Ben Affleck version of Batman in his prime or at least some crime fighting version of Batman before I got this aged bitter version. I will admit that my Batman canon ended in the late '70s Bronze Age, so I may not be acquainted with the copper or modern age tortured wreckless version that was portrayed in the movie. This was a version unseen by anyone (as far as I know). It's an Elseworld-tale of a world with a Batman and no Superman. So what happens to the 'dark' when there's no 'light' for a counter-balance? In this story it gets darker, downright ugly, desperate and twisted. Took twenty years. Not pretty. Then he shows up. Superman. And they write "a puff-piece editorial every time he pulls a cat out of a tree." Don't they realize he could be a world-killer? Batman does. But, by the end, the writers get us to a place most Batman/Superman stories begin. Batman inspired by Superman. Superman raised the bar. A twisting-turning path leading to "World's Finest" familiar terrain. Chapter one. Very clever. Now let's see where it goes. Can't wait. Justice League. I hope you are right. However, being a fan of LOST I have bitterly learned that the payoff we think is coming may not come.

The foundation of the entire story is something new. A Batman we've never seen before. This Batman has already had a twenty year career in a world without Superman. And the story opens with this Batman well along a downward spiral, becoming 'cruel' (as Alfred puts it). Thinking he's wasted his life. Bitter. Anyway, Batman of this story isn't at the top of his game. Just the opposite. And his motivations are in line with his mindset. He did everything you mention (investigated, figured things out, weighed the possibilities), becoming Luthor's pawn and almost Superman's killer. And there lies the problem with the movie for me. I would like to have seen a Ben Affleck version of Batman in his prime or at least some crime fighting version of Batman before I got this aged bitter version. I will admit that my Batman canon ended in the late '70s Bronze Age, so I may not be acquainted with the copper or modern age tortured wreckless version that was portrayed in the movie.

Two thoughts come to mind when I see that picture: 1. Batman has some awesome villains 2. Those actors really brought the characters to life, especially Frank Gorshin.

If someone posts the positive being noted, they must be on the Warner payroll; but if someone posts negative news, they are just speaking their mind? I don't get that logic. It was a compliment. Restated: your passion for this movie is similar to someone that is being monetarily compensated by the maker of the movie. Actually I applaud your effort to defend the movie even though I wish it had taken a different path. I am not much of an emoticon user so a couple of smiley faces may have assisted the tone of my post.

Bosco, I am starting to believe you are on the BvS payroll in some way. You are to be commended for your passion for this movie. Keep it up

If that is horrible, how would you describe the casting and CGI (e.g. the Turd, I mean Thing ) from the last FF movie? Now that you mention it, I don't even remember what the Thing looked like in that last FF movie. Couldn't have been too memorable. I DO remember controversy about him running around with no shorts on. ...oh yeah, and the Flash looks horrible. First Flash movie ever and it already looks like they're getting ready to crush my childhood as bad as andru/esposito did when they took over that book. This is a crucial point that hasn't been adequately addressed with any reboot (DC or Marvel). Someone suggested that "it's their turn" like these characters we grew up with from the 40's through the 70's and beyond had their time in the sun and should be put out to pasture so the next generation of heroes can have their shot. Wait a minute! So exactly when did we ever get accurate media representations of our childhood heroes? It could be argued that Marvel has done the best job of threading that needle by trying to incorporate the SA look and background into characters updated to the new millennium. But what about DC? So many of the interesting second tier characters (once you get past Supe and Batman) have never had an opportunity to shine in a major film as they originally appeared and evolved. From where I sit, it looks like a lot of fine traditional DC heroes have been denied their shot and skipped over in an attempt to look hipper to a younger demographic more familiar with more dystopian heroes and storylines. Well said. I would like to see a Barry Allen like my 70's era hero from the comics. I'm ok with the tv version of the Flash, but it would be good to get an adult, somewhere between the ages of Batman and Supes, to play a mature crime fighting Flash.

I think a lot of the 'dislike' is due to a key story element: These are NOT the characters we've known. It's a NEW take. Batman got there in the end though. But prior to the film Batman has had a 10 year career in a world without Superman. We've NEVER seen that before (as far as I know). No Superman to raise the bar. Until the film's storyline. Right? That was a main focus of the story. Alfred's concerns. Batman's devolving ethics... It's good stuff. Complex. Fresh. Bingo! Very well said Davenport and you have hit my biggest problems with the movie. I don't mind some tampering with my favorite characters, which Batman and Superman are, it's just I thought it went too far and I blame Snyder for that. And you are right, I like the Batman we get at the end. You're 'blame' is my 'appreciate', so I looked it up. Here's where it goes: "screenplay by Chris Terrio and David S. Goyer". We both got to the same place by film's end. That's the main thing. And I don't think we're supposed to like Batman...at first. We're Alfred, right?, looking at a hero who's lost and still loosing his way. Too dark, too obsessed, too vengeful. He's right on the verge of becoming what he detests. We hate it and our heart breaks for his plight. That's the film's set up. Now we go for the ride. For me there were two key moments... And... So, yeah. As a lifelong fan I got emotionally played. Sounds like you did too. Not an easy thing to do. I thought it was very clever over all, unexpected and absolutely fresh. Dang it! Don't make me like or appreciate this movie after I left the theater thoroughly disgusted - almost vowing to never watch another Zack Snyder movie again. Seriously though, I appreciate those elements in the movie, but it's not where I thought the DCU should launch from. For instance, I would like to have seen a crime fighting Batman before I got dark, vengeful Batman. My only question going forward is... do I buy the Blu-ray when it comes out? I had sworn not to when leaving the theater, but not so sure now.

I think a lot of the 'dislike' is due to a key story element: These are NOT the characters we've known. It's a NEW take. Batman got there in the end though. But prior to the film Batman has had a 10 year career in a world without Superman. We've NEVER seen that before (as far as I know). No Superman to raise the bar. Until the film's storyline. Right? That was a main focus of the story. Alfred's concerns. Batman's devolving ethics... It's good stuff. Complex. Fresh. Bingo! Very well said Davenport and you have hit my biggest problems with the movie. I don't mind some tampering with my favorite characters, which Batman and Superman are, it's just I thought it went too far and I blame Snyder for that. And you are right, I like the Batman we get at the end.

I have no problem with Zack's portrayal of Superman, but his characterization of Batman in BvS is what ruined the movie for me. Henry Cavill does a very good job of playing Superman and Affleck was a good Batman. Just didn't like the role they had for Batman in this movie.

No doubt! Incredible stuff