JiveTurkeyMoFo

Found a positive about SS:

 

Most of Leto's Joker scenes were cut. They missed some, but imagine if there was more of him in it?!?!

I agree this movie would've benefitted from more Joker.

Maybe if suicide squad had a dance off at the end it would have been as charming as GOTG

 

Yes, that was epically groan-worthy.

I watched Suicide Squad last night and quite frankly, I cannot see what all the complaining is about. For those of you who watched it and didn't like it, all I can say is you either went in with your mind already made up or watched a completely different movie!

I was really looking forward to this movie, so maybe you are right in the sense that I made my mind up that I was going to enjoy it ahead of time. I didn't, because it sucked. Glad you enjoyed it, but I'm pretty sure we both saw the same POS.

A little goody from the movie with Harley in her traditional costume.

 

There were a lot of goofy moments in this movie, except I don't think it was intentional. It also didn't have the charm of a GOTG to pull it off. The dialogue was stilted, the drama was flat and didn't resonate with the audience, the villain(s) were vapid. I'm trying to think of the last time the trailers for a major release were so misleading about the final finished product...perhaps the Mummy movie of 20 years ago.

On a positive note, Will Smith's Deadshot was solid. Harley was okay when she didn't go into her full on Fran Drescher Long Island housewife voice. If you had the made the movie with just them, it may have been fine. The rest were forgettable. I can't believe they relagated the Joker to essentially a supporting character with five minutes of screen time. What a waste.

The four of us in our group all thought the movie whiffed, and I'm the only "comic geek". Judging by the 90% capacity theatre that was dead silent without a single clap or cheer as the movie ended, we weren't the only ones. I feel like a sucker for ignoring the Rotten Tomatoes reviews.

God. Awful. Movie.

That's my review.

Clearly you have no idea of the life of a rock star.

 

Preparation, yodeling, working out, do some lines, drink some scotch, hot tub action, do some groupies.

 

No time for basketball.

 

We;ve lost him to the big time now boys.

 

Just remember him as he was.

Most of us have been trying to forget....

Seriously though, good luck Roy.

I enjoyed it. Better then DOFP, and maybe a smidge less then First Class. Overall, a solid B-.

No interest in seeing it again in the theatre, but will certainly watch it on Blu-Ray or when FX starts playing the heck of it in two years.

I think Walking Dead ruined it and set the bar way too high for non-superhero comic book TV shows.

I find this somewhat amusing, as I don't think WD has been nearly as good, or at the very least, consistently good lately as it was early on.

Preacher so far has been a strong B+ in my book. I never read the source material, so I have no comparisons or expectations to base my opinion off of, just the episodes as they are, and so far, I've enjoyed it. And as for Tulip, again, without reading the source material, I have no working knowledge of what she is "supposed" to be like, but I enjoy the character as she is, and think the actress (who also did a turn on AOS, if memory serves) is doing a fine job.

But what's failure?

 

This could tank domestically Terminator 5-style at $90 million & still pull a solid $350-$400 million worldwide.

 

Because it looks like a decent sci-fi flick even without the comic book connection, and should play well as such overseas.

 

That's my argument about the disconnect in this thread. It looks like a fun summer flick & should play as such to Joe Q. Public.

 

It's only the hardcore FF nerds who seem pissed that it's based on Ultimate FF rather than the original Kirby run. Oh, and whining that it's not Disney. And that Johnny Storm's not white.

 

Again -- the first two FF films weren't any good, but they did very well at the box office despite that.

 

So you are saying if it completely tanks in the U.S., it can still make $400M worldwide. I guess that means whoever has never heard of the FF will go see it. I'll skip why you seem to think that is a good thing, but you mean to tell me that a handful of "FF nerds" can completely take down the domestic box office? There are millions of casual comic/pop culture fans out there that know a little bit about the FF - they go to comic cons, watch the movies/cartoons, talk to hard core collectors, and maybe even read the books. And I would guess that most of them have heard a little something about how this movie is not true to the original. I guess we'll see what they have to say this week.

A well-respected comic dealer at the Tampa Bay Comic Con mentioned that he thought the crowd was, and I'm paraphrasing here, the least comic-savy group he has encountered, possibly at any show, ever. That, folks, is your average comic movie-goer nowadays too....many of the easter eggs have to be explained to them, many of the things that excite us (a Hulk vs Thor fight) because of their long standing inclusion in the stories we grew up with, are largely lost on them. But, that's the cost of the hobby changing from one media format, to another, more readily accessible one. It's the same as when your favorite band's widely regarded "best song" is the one Top-40 single they ever had, yet their real fans know it doesn't even come close to representing their best work.

Video killed the radio star, and all....

I write that to suggest that this movie, with all the seemingly negative inertia behind it in the form of the first franchise, the lack of word-of-mouth, the lack of reviews (which leads to loads of rampant speculation), might actually hold it's own if it takes off with the target audience, who, by my guess, are actually the 15-34 demographic, and not middle-age comic nerds.

That said, if it breaks $50 million on opening weekend, I'd be shocked. The new trailer, with the opening sequence of Reed and Ben as kids, seems to be the best one yet, but it may be too late to change the minds of those who had written the movie off already.

Big "dislike" on the Apocalypse design. They failed.

The only actor that could have resonably pulled off Apocalypse, from a completely physical standpoint, was Michael Clarke Duncan in his Armegeddon/Green Mile prime. He was a rare specimen.

She should also be tearing it up in Hannibal this summer....

Tampa Bay Comic Con is the same 2016 weekend.

I plan on getting two booths next year....at TBCC. I've made my choice.

Not to mention that the Tampa Bay show, which drew well over 40k last year, is the weekend before, and that show is sold out for vendor booths. What nonsensical planning on the part of the WW folks.

I wonder if a boardie won the 5.5. It seems like it was a great deal compared to what some thought the book was currently worth.

 

Based on the sale of my own 5.5 just yesterday on the boards, I'd say that price is exactly in line with the current market.

 

But what about the page quality?

 

Price of Tea in China.

 

Indeed.

 

Frankly, I found your 5.5 to be a superior example than the one on Heritage. The one on Heritage looked graded a little soft to me and I believe the final price reflected that.

 

-J.

I preferred the back cover on the Heritage copy, much cleaner then my own. But then, people rarely buy these gems with the back cover in mind. The Heritage copy also easily won the preservation contest between the two, both in terms of appeal and page quality, but mine was clearly superior where it mattered most: front cover appeal. All that being said, I think I made out for the better considering what is owed Heritage in terms of the buyer's juice, seller's fees, and time lost for the consignment.

I'm still at a loss to explain the demand for the book at these price points...of course, I couldn't forsee AF 15 selling for $22k in 5.0 either, so Nostradamus I am not....

I wonder if a boardie won the 5.5. It seems like it was a great deal compared to what some thought the book was currently worth.

 

Based on the sale of my own 5.5 just yesterday on the boards, I'd say that price is exactly in line with the current market.

 

But what about the page quality?

Price of Tea in China.

I wonder if a boardie won the 5.5. It seems like it was a great deal compared to what some thought the book was currently worth.

Based on the sale of my own 5.5 just yesterday on the boards, I'd say that price is exactly in line with the current market.

 

Because it still happened. The sales still happened and you cannot ignore/discount/minimize them just because they don't fit the narrative that you choose to believe in.

 

-J.

 

It's just plain silly that you are attempting to use one of the few auction houses that "doesn't" report to GPA, and has no readily accessible archived results, in lieu of the litany of data from basically every other vendor that does in order to "prove" a point that is easily (and has been) disproved.

 

-J.

Gator arguing with some random newb forumite on the validity of GPA pricing data is like God arguing with a gnat over the creation of the Universe. Its so absurd, it's laughable.

I need to see this movie

 

The reviews and reactions from those who have seen it sound amazing

 

Be sure to go to that massive screened (GTX, etc.) or IMAX theatre with the killer sound system where the seats shake as the bass rumbles. This is not a movie experience to pinch pennies on and see in a standard theater.

 

The music is tremendous.

I had flashbacks to the final chase scene in Road Warrior where the music synced perfectly with the drama unfolding on the screen.

FWIW, my wife hated the movie. Too over-the-top, too violent, too alien, too...much. This is where George Miller has really succeeded in his world-building, if it's so real, so visceral, that it succeeds in bringing you into it fully, whether you wanted to be in or not is a different matter.

I need to see this movie

 

The reviews and reactions from those who have seen it sound amazing

Be sure to go to that massive screened (GTX, etc.) or IMAX theatre with the killer sound system where the seats shake as the bass rumbles. This is not a movie experience to pinch pennies on and see in a standard theater.

So, as a jaded, 40-something movie-goer who has seen just about everything there is to see in the last 30 years of cinema, I walked into the movie theater today hoping that the endless flow of critical praise for this movie was deserved and justified. My experience made me realize something....something awful actually, that in the 15 years since the Matrix first debuted, I've had precious few moments in the theater where I squirmed in my seat with anticipation, or had an "oh, damn!" moment as I witnessed something truly astounding with my own eyes. Perhaps its the fact that CGI, as impressive as it has made so many movies, has sanitized our sense of suspense, and replaced cinematic reality with a very slick, yet very effective cartoon of characters and effects you know are nothing more then pixels and motion-capture magic.

As for those "oh, damn!" moments I mentioned, I think it's safe to say I had a half dozen or so today. The final chase scene by itself is deserving of not only critical praise, but some hardware come Oscar time, and demands immediate consideration as one of the best action sequences in cinematic history.

Is the plot pretty straight-forward and linear? Yeah. Are there a ton of red herrings to keep you guessing as you unravel the characters and their motivations. No, Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy this is not. But as someone who grew up with the Road Warrior as one of his favorite movies, I can say this is a faithful recreation, and indeed expansion, of that world and it's denizens. And perhaps, it is also a very welcome return to realism and practical effects that so many of today's blockbuster movies are sorely lacking. Hopefully, we'll see more, not only of Max and Furiosa and the hellish world they are trying to make right, but of a renewed emphasis on blowing s*!t up and practical props/stunts carrying a movie.

Well, that movie release news probably explains why I got like 8 offers for my New Mutants 87 in 9.8 on ebay within a 24-hour span. Luckily, I didn't give in and let it sell for the full ask of $350.

Well, at least you guys are getting grades. Mine just sit at "Scheduled for Grading" for 2-3 weeks without any movement.

Stan will say anything to spin it positive. He's been doing it since 1961.

 

Lots of things did well but some didn't, but it was all 'awesome' when it came out.

 

Personally, I kind of hope it flops so Marvel gets the rights back like they did with DD. These other studios just don't seem to get it. Marvel / Disney are treating the franchises like solid gold and putting out a quality product.

 

The others seem to treat them like they're not that important and it shows in the quality of films

 

Personally, and this is from someone who adores the Lee/Kirby Fantastic Four, I think they are going in the right direction with this film. The cast is fully of superbly talented young actors, the director is one of the young visionaries of Hollywood, and their decision to treat this like a serious sci-fi movie instead of camp is the only way to sell the franchise to the target audience....i.e, NOT the 40 or 50 somethings visiting these Boards. I've seen enough of the trailers to want to go see it in person...no, it may not be the FF that I love and cherish, but I also don't drive the same car I did 20 years ago, or have all the same interests I had 10 years ago.

One of the main problems that I see when people come in here and express their negative comments on the show, is that they have brought their own personal view of what the show SHOULD be, as opposed to what it is.

 

And what could possibly be wrong with that as long as the criticism is constructive, respectful and honest? This is the unofficially official MAOS thread on these Boards. It's not a pro-MAOS only thread. I have watched every episode of MAOS and have seen it mature from a near-abomination of a show during its first eight or so A-Team-like episodes to a significantly better, yet still far from perfect, but ever-improving program, and I from time to time I have voiced my opinions accordingly. EP Jed Whedon has stated that because of constructive fan criticism from that rough first season, they listened and their producers were able to make improvements to the show which is how they got to where it is today. PS, I'm a F..M.

Ditto. Its a shame the show got off to a bad start last year, because many people quit on it during that rough 4-5 episode stretch at the very beginning. If you hung in, especially after its mid-season break, you were rewarded with a much improved product that's remained consistently better-than-average ever since.