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Sooooo,

"Rick"

Which vindictive lunatic are you?

Obviously you've been around.

Why "Rick"

Jesus....

I'm "off" today....

Rock is correct.

My shop opened in 1991.

It took one year+ for New Mutants #87 to be a $50 book.

Carry on...

So, you see, it's not reasonable to conclude that anyone was asking...much less actually selling...New Mutants #87 for $25 or $60 in April or May of 1990, despite your protestations to the contrary.

New Mutants #87 was a "legit" $50--$100 wall book by December 1990 despite what the guides & various updates had it listed for.

My shop opened February 1st 1990 & New Mutants #87 was "THE" first Christmas list item for my shop.

Everybody wanted this book.

I was selling them for $50.

A shop twenty miles away called & asked WHY I was selling NM #87 for $50.

He claimed to be charging $100.

It was the first time another retailer called me.

Earlier that year September / October in Boston at Fred Greenbergs show, a NY dealer ( Brad? big, boisterous ) bought a table & brought nothing but a briefcase full of cash.

He put a BUYING New Mutants #87 $25ea sign on his table.

Dealers lined up & sold their copies at $25. I sold him the few dozen I brought.

I was absolutely thrilled.

When the show opened he lined all the copies in the room on his table for $50 & sold most of them.

It was epic.

After the dust settled, I remember dealers picking my brain asking what made me buy so many New Mutants #87 in the first place. It was a mess selling X book with lousy art in their opinion. Why buy it? They couldn't figure it out.

The answer was easy.

Rob Liefeld's final panel of New Mutants #86 got me so excited for the new character I spent a month prebuying copies from CBG.& prepaying at shops...

I didn't have a Diamond account at the time.

New Mutants #87 paid for one though.

Hi Chuck,

Are you a bookstore model shop, only selling new material, or do you sell backlist as well?

I don't understand the"

the people who are ashamed to be a part of this hobby can sell off all the previously useless copies

comment at all?

Comic shops have really evolved into the petri-dishes of mainstream pop culture. It all seems to start with us.

Personally, there's nothing more rewarding when a "civilian" comes seeking out source material at my shop.

Anyway...

The first one I remember was Rocketeer.

The last "biggie" was The Strain.

There are thousands of examples now....

Honestly dismissing current values or small spikes in price is missing the point.

Source material of quality material will always be sought after.

The Marvel incentives are distribution numbers, not print numbers.

 

The number of copies of the variants printed has nothing to do with how many accounts qualified for the incentive.

 

Once again: those are distribution numbers, NOT print numbers.

 

They are NOT the same thing, and never have been.

 

I understand that this idea keeps cropping up here, and elsewhere, but it's still not accurate, and never has been.

 

The number of regular copies ordered doesn't have anything to do with the number of copies of the variants printed. The print run number of the variants is a number that Marvel determines in-house, and has not made public (for the most part.)

 

Again: "1:X" are DISTRIBUTION numbers, NOT PRINT numbers.

 

I don't understand why you feel the need to belabor your opinion on this point in every single thread that pertains to incentive variants. I doubt there is anyone who wonders what your thoughts are on this subject by now. I'm not even saying you are not technically correct, but come on.

 

But FYI "print numbers" and "distribution numbers" are not mutually exclusive. If only 500 accounts qualify for an incentive Marvel isn't going to print 2000 copies just for shigs and gittles. Hence why they have an FOC ("Final Order Cut-off") date.

 

-J.

 

If only 500 accounts qualify for an incentive Marvel isn't going to print 2000 copies just for shigs and gittles

 

You DO understand that to print 500 is more expensive to print 2-4k, right?

 

That may or may not be true.

 

However I also understand that even indie publishers run micro prints all the time. So there's no reason to believe a larger publisher would find it cost prohibitive to do the same thing.

 

-J.

 

That may or may not be true.

 

You're just an ignorant guy, trolling.

Believe whatever you like.

 

 

 

 

From what I've read about you, you are a few things yourself.

 

But we don't need to get into that, do we?

 

Point being, you're just speculating as is Lonzilla.

 

Differnce is, you hold out your blatant speculation as "fact" where as others acknowledge they are only speculating and are just trying to have a fun conversation about some books.

 

So why dont you just go away "Larry". You're the only troll around here.

 

-J.

I sell comics for a living & have been at it a while.

You don't want to hear something I know quite a bit about.

That's perfectly fine.

I've always found that knowledge makes me a better speculator.

Anyway...

I'm content to simply block the anonymous moniker :"Jaydogrules" & be done with you.

You aren't bringing a damn thing to the table.

Think I'll stick around a bit though...

Chumplestilsken

The Marvel incentives are distribution numbers, not print numbers.

 

The number of copies of the variants printed has nothing to do with how many accounts qualified for the incentive.

 

Once again: those are distribution numbers, NOT print numbers.

 

They are NOT the same thing, and never have been.

 

I understand that this idea keeps cropping up here, and elsewhere, but it's still not accurate, and never has been.

 

The number of regular copies ordered doesn't have anything to do with the number of copies of the variants printed. The print run number of the variants is a number that Marvel determines in-house, and has not made public (for the most part.)

 

Again: "1:X" are DISTRIBUTION numbers, NOT PRINT numbers.

 

I don't understand why you feel the need to belabor your opinion on this point in every single thread that pertains to incentive variants. I doubt there is anyone who wonders what your thoughts are on this subject by now. I'm not even saying you are not technically correct, but come on.

 

But FYI "print numbers" and "distribution numbers" are not mutually exclusive. If only 500 accounts qualify for an incentive Marvel isn't going to print 2000 copies just for shigs and gittles. Hence why they have an FOC ("Final Order Cut-off") date.

 

-J.

 

If only 500 accounts qualify for an incentive Marvel isn't going to print 2000 copies just for shigs and gittles

 

You DO understand that to print 500 is more expensive to print 2-4k, right?

 

That may or may not be true.

 

However I also understand that even indie publishers run micro prints all the time. So there's no reason to believe a larger publisher would find it cost prohibitive to do the same thing.

 

-J.

That may or may not be true.

You're just an ignorant guy, trolling.

Believe whatever you like.

The Marvel incentives are distribution numbers, not print numbers.

 

The number of copies of the variants printed has nothing to do with how many accounts qualified for the incentive.

 

Once again: those are distribution numbers, NOT print numbers.

 

They are NOT the same thing, and never have been.

 

I understand that this idea keeps cropping up here, and elsewhere, but it's still not accurate, and never has been.

 

The number of regular copies ordered doesn't have anything to do with the number of copies of the variants printed. The print run number of the variants is a number that Marvel determines in-house, and has not made public (for the most part.)

 

Again: "1:X" are DISTRIBUTION numbers, NOT PRINT numbers.

 

I don't understand why you feel the need to belabor your opinion on this point in every single thread that pertains to incentive variants. I doubt there is anyone who wonders what your thoughts are on this subject by now. I'm not even saying you are not technically correct, but come on.

 

But FYI "print numbers" and "distribution numbers" are not mutually exclusive. If only 500 accounts qualify for an incentive Marvel isn't going to print 2000 copies just for shigs and gittles. Hence why they have an FOC ("Final Order Cut-off") date.

 

-J.

If only 500 accounts qualify for an incentive Marvel isn't going to print 2000 copies just for shigs and gittles

You DO understand that to print 500 is more expensive than to print 2-4k, right?

A Harley Quinn "crash" is not going to happen because people aren't going to forget about her anytime soon. A failed Suicide Squad movie MAY cause a severe decline, but that's not going to happen either. There may be an eventual decline, but the popular books will still sell well.

 

In my opinion.

 

Meaning the true Harley keys....

 

 

Batman Adventures 12

Batman Harley Quinn nn

 

Are safe.

 

What about some of the other early Harley stuff like Mad Love, and Batman: Harley and Ivy. Not keys in the same way, by were key in establishing the character outside of her relationship with Joker.

 

I would say a lot of the early Harley appearances are undervalued like that Batman Gallery book that predates the Batman Harley Quinn nn. In a lot of ways she is like Deadpool in that her early appearances are now being gobbled up probably because she didn't suffer from overexposure early on.

she didn't suffer from overexposure early on

Hilarious.

The Marvel incentives are distribution numbers, not print numbers.

 

The number of copies of the variants printed has nothing to do with how many accounts qualified for the incentive.

 

Once again: those are distribution numbers, NOT print numbers.

 

They are NOT the same thing, and never have been.

 

I understand that this idea keeps cropping up here, and elsewhere, but it's still not accurate, and never has been.

 

The number of regular copies ordered doesn't have anything to do with the number of copies of the variants printed. The print run number of the variants is a number that Marvel determines in-house, and has not made public (for the most part.)

 

Again: "1:X" are DISTRIBUTION numbers, NOT PRINT numbers.

If you're referring to Comichron numbers with the "1:X" applied....

Comichron doesn't include Diamond UK #'s & publisher digression.

They print whatever they feel like.

So all the monkey's applying "1:X" to that number can forget it...

( I've bought publisher warehouses with "1:X"'s piled to the roof. )

Is this thread only for people who don't own comics for sale?

 

No. This is a thread about literal nonsense, where grown men debate there opinions. It no longer has anything to do with comics heating up. Google+ is now miles ahead of this thread, which is crayy

 

I thought Google+ was where I could buy "cool" shirts and "cool" variants?

 

No. Its where people actually talk about comics heating up.

 

This thread sucks now. Gone are the days of this thread giving vital comic book heating up information.

Using real names on G+ sure does keep the vindictive lunatics at an arms length.

This thread worthless now.

Fight

person_without_enough_empathy

Complain....

Repeat.

With all the money people are spending on sealed polybags looking for NM copies of the sketch/ink/color covers, wouldn't it make sense instead to just buy the unbagged NM comic off Ebay....?

 

 

 

The issue is that there are so many bad issues that 9.6's and up may not even exist for this comic. Plus, it looks really bad for DC. People are buying this issue for the cover, and to collect the cover. People are not buying the polybagged version to read. So, we are taking a shoot at what version we get, plus have a greater than 50% chance that the issue out of the bag lacks appeal.

 

I know it is a easily damaged paper product, and there is always some spoilage. With that said that vast majority of the comics should hit the stands at a 9.4 or higher. With any product, when you buy a new product it should look new. These look like . In addition, all DC's normal issues look good, and do not have the problem. Where was quality control on this?

 

I doubt DC cares. They sold out. Return ability would be the question I would be asking. Maybe if enough retailers complain they will do something about it.

I would think after Convergence they might be more friendly, but this book is so hot currently I still doubt they do anything.

 

Maybe a retailer can shed some light.

I'll bite...

DC had a fabulous concept that was trashed by a poly-bagging machine.

Having received a "tip" about the OA I ordered a TON.

I called in all my damages to Diamond.

I was refunded.

As would any shop that receives unsalable comics.

Unsalable = Trashed.

A tiny blemish is perfectly salable.

( Not to the cult sect on the CGC boards )

NOS4A2 / Wraith got picked up by AMC

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_sacat=0&_sop=1&_nkw=wraith%201%20idw&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

One night on Twitter Joe Hill asked me who would be a good fit to illustrate a new IDW horror project.

I said Charles Paul Wilson III

He said thank you.

Wow nothing like sending books out as 8.0. That really stinks, my variant from last week's is not perfect, but it would get a 9.4 or an outside 9.6.

I had to buy 9 copies to get 9.2's of the 3 different Harley's.

 

There is one copy, perfect spine, and a fold on the top right from the bagging process.

 

9.8's for these books will be rare rare rare.

 

Did you buy them from your LCS?

 

I pre ordered mine from DCBS, so hopefully mine are 9.8 candidates.

 

pre ordered mine from DCBS, so hopefully mine are 9.8 candidates

 

Translation:

I purchased mine sight unseen & have unrealistic expectations.

 

Yes, I would think DCBS is just another version of a local comic shop. No reason to think they would get books any different than everyone else, since it seems to be a production/delivery issue.

It's a production issue.

Poly-Bagging machine caused damage.

It's NOT a Diamond issue.

Wow nothing like sending books out as 8.0. That really stinks, my variant from last week's is not perfect, but it would get a 9.4 or an outside 9.6.

I had to buy 9 copies to get 9.2's of the 3 different Harley's.

 

There is one copy, perfect spine, and a fold on the top right from the bagging process.

 

9.8's for these books will be rare rare rare.

 

Did you buy them from your LCS?

 

I pre ordered mine from DCBS, so hopefully mine are 9.8 candidates.

pre ordered mine from DCBS, so hopefully mine are 9.8 candidates

Translation:

I purchased mine sight unseen & have unrealistic expectations.

Never seen this one here, Im pretty sure its not heating up or gonna heat up, but what the heck, I had a minute to kill, so here...

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Oxymoron-loveliest-nightmare-1-Larrys-Variant-Spider-Man-1-Homage-Ltd-1-000-/221961424010?hash=item33adee8c8a:g:3uYAAOSw0JpV3N3c

 

This was HOT for a second when it came out....

 

But please God, skip the Larry Variants !!!

Bait

Taunt

Troll

For the record, this isn't the 1st JSC Harley cover.

 

There is a Danger Girl Batman crossover where Harley is on the cover

 

http://dangergirl.weebly.com/uploads/2/0/8/1/208188/451317_orig.jpg

 

Well for the record it is a JSC Cover for Harley on a title with her name on it. not an out of continuity cross over.

 

And this is a Harley cover, not a cover Harley just happens to be tucked in the corner on. The variant is just too common to have much value, except if there is 9.8 value with the apparent defect. I think there is significant value in the OA copied still.

I'm happy with ten dollar bills.

I know that's below most of you.

So, I apologize in advance for wasting your valuable time.

( Clearly.

Print runs are meaningless when involving Harley or Deadpool. Please see New Mutants 98 with close to a million copies in circulation )_

For the record, this isn't the 1st JSC Harley cover.

 

There is a Danger Girl Batman crossover where Harley is on the cover

 

http://dangergirl.weebly.com/uploads/2/0/8/1/208188/451317_orig.jpg

.

Yep there she is.

Right hand corner, If you squint..

I'll give you sticklers a star on your foreheads.

Clearly, Harley Little Black book is in another class.

Keep on though...

/\/\

How many did you presell? Seemed to be moving pretty good.

 

Also, first Harley JSC is Batman / Danger Girl one shot.

Yeah...

She's in that multi-figure cover.

Somewhere...

>>I know they probably wont be worth anything<<

The first J Scott Campbell Harley cover.

Really?

Think about that for a minute.

Take a minute to process that...

THE most sought after modern DC character at shows & illustrated by one of the industry's top modern cover artists.

Will this book be a Suicide Squad #1 or Batman #1?

No.

Could this book be a Suicide Squad #6 or Harley #1?

Absolutely.

When the dust settles these will be $10-$25 wall books that sell forever.

Yesterday I set up at NY Winter-con.

Brought 17 various opened copies with the staple ding.

They didn't last until noon at $10 ea. 3 for $25

NOBODY can resist that cover....

The vindictive lunatics here that didn't buy that particular book will strike out via their anonymous internet monikers.

Beware.

Green Label

 

1 of 1 distributed from Diamond. One of those situations that irritates me about grading. IMO it has to be a 10 Gem Mint or a 0. There is not better nor worse.

Kind of like that My Little Pony one of a kind that only got a 9.6.

 

 

The 1 of 1 has nothing to do with what grade it is. What if it got run over by the UPS truck, would it still get a 9.8 just because it is the only one? Grade isn't a relative statement based on the population, or at least it shouldn't be.

 

The 1 of 1 should matter for label color. If DC kept adequate records and the book had some level of serial number or something (not saying they do, saying they could), the 1 of 1 sketches should be eligible for SS. It is certainly a more secure system than that WD 100 debacle from a few years ago that were eligible for yellow labels even though there was zero chain of custody.

If DC kept adequate records

You are aware that comic buyers that slab their books are a cult minority.

Might be 1% of DC's customer base.

I hardly think they're factoring the CGC crowd into their marketing.

They printed 100 unique comics, had them sketched on by their employee's & are distributing them in an unorthodox fashion.

If one of these shows up to be graded, It CAN'T be anything else.

CGC should update their policies.

Antiquated system.

Ive opened 3 bags thus far, all bent up books

The poly bagging machine on the first wave has been a mother foughcker.

There are 100 Harleys Little Black Book original sketch editions.

10 ea randomly inserted into blind bags for :

12/2: HARLEY'S LITTLE BLACK BOOK #1 - J. Scott Campbell

12/2: GREEN LANTERN #47 - Darwyn Cooke

12/9: BATMAN #47 - Alex Ross

12/9: GREEN ARROW #47 - Tim Sale

12/16: JUSTICE LEAGUE #47 - Jim Lee

12/16: HARLEY QUINN #23 - Bruce Timm

12/23: SUPERMAN #47 - Lee Bermejo

12/23: JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #6 - Joe Madureira

12/30: THE FLASH #47 - Terry Dodson

12/30: WONDER WOMAN #47 - Amanda Conner

The blanks they are drawn on were produced for this promotion.

They are NOT available anywhere else.

Not yellow labeling these simply illustrates an antiquated system.

The Woods just got picked up by Universal.

 

We knew this on October 8th. Don't rely on CHU for late-breaking news.

. Well, "we" didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. Unfortunately, not everyone has been around here as long. No reason to post comments like that and I see them all the time.

 

This is one of the nastiest collector communities on the internet....

 

Indeed. And one of the best at the same time..

 

With all the Google+ & Facebook groups, blogs that have popped up recently, honestly, these boards are just mediocre now.

 

definitely lost the fastball here.

It's now just a third rate place for information, used to be tops.

 

The core collectors of this site are BY FAR the best in the biz. I've created lifelong friendships with members from these boards in a little over a year. I have 1-2 friends off of facebook and don't even mess with google+ groups. If you think differently maybe you're going about it the wrong way. It's not all about what's hot ATM..

The core collectors of this site are BY FAR the best in the biz

Sluuuurp....

*shrug*

Look at my posts...

It's NOT all about 'hot"

I've got plenty of friends on here.

If you can't see the constant hostility from vindictive lunatics...

You're blind.

<3

The Woods just got picked up by Universal.

 

We knew this on October 8th. Don't rely on CHU for late-breaking news.

. Well, "we" didn't, otherwise I wouldn't have posted it. Unfortunately, not everyone has been around here as long. No reason to post comments like that and I see them all the time.

 

This is one of the nastiest collector communities on the internet....

 

Indeed. And one of the best at the same time..

With all the Google+ & Facebook groups, blogs that have popped up recently, honestly, these boards are just mediocre now.

definitely lost the fastball here.

It's now just a third rate place for information, used to be tops.