So who bought the VF Batman #1 for 100K?

[Socratic Wonder]

2 answers to 2 questions.

 

The Batman #1 was graded last week. It is not the "ugly" 8.0 copy.

 

The Detective 27 7.0, which we sold about 6 months ago, had been on the census for about 2 years.

 

S

 

Thanks for the offer on the book. Oh, thats right I wasn't offered the book. I guess it is probably because I do not collect Batmans

 

Batman Registry sets

 

I do not understand what your problem is with me but I guess I should just continue doing business with people who value good customers.

 

 

bullet's batmans are the best I have seen!

 

Where is the understatement of the year icon?

WOW!

[Dark Knight]

Would love to see a scan of the book

[nearmint]

Batman #1 + 1940 + CGC graded 8.0 + Unrestored + OW/W =

Couldn't think of a better place to spend $100,000 on a single book. The buyer must be thrilled...I know I would be

 

I have to agree. Seems like a fair price for a killer book.

[G.A.tor]

Batman #1 + 1940 + CGC graded 8.0 + Unrestored + OW/W =

Couldn't think of a better place to spend $100,000 on a single book. The buyer must be thrilled...I know I would be

 

I have to agree. Seems like a fair price for a killer book.

another pretty nice 8.0 sold or $80K a few months ago (thumbs u

[Crowzilla]

Speaking of ugly/nice 8.0s, this 7.5 is one of the best potential 8.0s I've seen.

Heritage 7.5

[batman_fan]

Speaking of ugly/nice 8.0s, this 7.5 is one of the best potential 8.0s I've seen.

Heritage 7.5

 

definitely a nice copy but te blue registration is off (similar to my copy) and it has a dark dust shadow.

[showcase4]

Speaking of ugly/nice 8.0s, this 7.5 is one of the best potential 8.0s I've seen.

Heritage 7.5

 

knowing 1st hand how tough CGC is on dust shadows and minor tears ( bottom edge / center / front cover ), this nice VF-ish looking book is probably capped at VF- for good with them.

 

Sure is nice though...especially structually

[Silver Surfer]

2 answers to 2 questions.

 

The Batman #1 was graded last week. It is not the "ugly" 8.0 copy.

 

The Detective 27 7.0, which we sold about 6 months ago, had been on the census for about 2 years.

 

S

 

Thanks for the offer on the book. Oh, thats right I wasn't offered the book. I guess it is probably because I do not collect Batmans

 

Batman Registry sets

 

I do not understand what your problem is with me but I guess I should just continue doing business with people who value good customers.

 

 

Maybe pick up the phone before making this post? Just a thought.

[Bullet123]

I have. I will be having a chat with Steve but he unfortunately is not the only dealer guilty of this but he happens to be the one in the crosshairs at the moment. As a salesman myself, I just do not understand those who claim to make a living from this hobby and the way they go about theie business. These are the facts

I buy high grade CGC slabs

I pay above guide for said CGC slabs

I am not afraid to set a GPA record for said CGC slabs if the book warrants it

I have done business with Steve and other dealers in the past.

It is no secret what I collect (my registry sets spell it all out)

 

I will do a deal with a dealer for several thousands of $$

 

Three weeks later I see another similar book that is within my collecting parameters advertised on their website without so much as a heads up that I might care. Its not like I collect High grade Marvels like ASM where everyone is clamoring for them. I collect some of the least collected (at least in high grade) names out there.

 

I would love to hear from other collectors out there if they have the same experience as I do. I am not interested in specific dealers names, just if they have had similar experiences.

 

 

[The Black Hand ®]

interesting that the Scoop! article did not reference PQ, almost as if it's not important, and only grade matters.

 

Stephen, if you don't mind sharing with us.....what was the PQ? I find it extremely relevant, especially on a 6 figure record breaking GA sale.

The pages were ow/white.

 

Don't know about you guys, but rigth there is $10k-$15k+ as far as I'm concerned.

Batman #1 + 1940 + CGC graded 8.0 + Unrestored + OW/W = :cloud9:

Couldn't think of a better place to spend $100,000 on a single book. The buyer must be thrilled...I know I would be

...and assuming you didn't pay $99,999.99 to acquire it, congrats to you too Metro

 

Steve

 

You do realise that color does not necessarily mean supple. I've had white paged books that were only just flexible, but not completely supple. I've had cream pages that were very supple. I had one off white paged book that was close to brittle. So , I think there needs to be an additional way to rate page quality, other than from the whiteness level. Any thoughts on this?

[G.A.tor]

interesting that the Scoop! article did not reference PQ, almost as if it's not important, and only grade matters.

 

Stephen, if you don't mind sharing with us.....what was the PQ? I find it extremely relevant, especially on a 6 figure record breaking GA sale.

The pages were ow/white.

 

Don't know about you guys, but rigth there is $10k-$15k+ as far as I'm concerned.

Batman #1 + 1940 + CGC graded 8.0 + Unrestored + OW/W = :cloud9:

Couldn't think of a better place to spend $100,000 on a single book. The buyer must be thrilled...I know I would be

...and assuming you didn't pay $99,999.99 to acquire it, congrats to you too Metro

 

Steve

 

You do realise that color does not necessarily mean supple. I've had white paged books that were only just flexible, but not completely supple. I've had cream pages that were very supple. I had one off white paged book that was close to brittle. So , I think there needs to be an additional way to rate page quality, other than from the whiteness level. Any thoughts on this?

excellent point... the "suppleness" of paper is really what is the key... most "assume" that ow/white = most supple, but as you described, that is not always the case (most times, but not always)...experience is the only way to know, and feeling the paper... but, I believe cgc will designate even white paper that is slightly brittle as "slightly brittle"....so, in a slab, you can pretty much count on pq=suppleness.... it is raw books one but learn from

[The Black Hand ®]

In such a highly refined market, I wonder if a suppleness index could add or subtract from value. Might be something to look into.

[MrBedrock]

I wonder if a suppleness index could add or subtract from value.

If you are talking about breast augmentation, I am sure the doctor factors it into the price.

[G.A.tor]

I wonder if a suppleness index could add or subtract from value.

If you are talking about breast augmentation, I am sure the doctor factors it into the price.

will there be a perkiness factor too

[batman_fan]

I wonder if a suppleness index could add or subtract from value.

If you are talking about breast augmentation, I am sure the doctor factors it into the price.

will there be a perkiness factor too

 

You had me at perkiness

[tth2]

I have. I will be having a chat with Steve but he unfortunately is not the only dealer guilty of this but he happens to be the one in the crosshairs at the moment. As a salesman myself, I just do not understand those who claim to make a living from this hobby and the way they go about theie business. These are the facts

I buy high grade CGC slabs

I pay above guide for said CGC slabs

I am not afraid to set a GPA record for said CGC slabs if the book warrants it

I have done business with Steve and other dealers in the past.

It is no secret what I collect (my registry sets spell it all out)

 

I will do a deal with a dealer for several thousands of $$

 

Three weeks later I see another similar book that is within my collecting parameters advertised on their website without so much as a heads up that I might care. Its not like I collect High grade Marvels like ASM where everyone is clamoring for them. I collect some of the least collected (at least in high grade) names out there.

 

I would love to hear from other collectors out there if they have the same experience as I do. I am not interested in specific dealers names, just if they have had similar experiences.

 

Bob, unfortunately this is an oft-repeated story. Usually the only time you'll hear from dealers is if they have some inventory they're desperate to move. If it's a book they know lots of people want? Don't hold your breath!

[VintageComics]

I don't know Bob from Adam but If I was a well known hi grade GA collector, wouldn't I as a dealer call him? I mean why not? Only reason I can think of is if someone else was ahead of him on the list....

 

R.

 

 

[nearmint]

Exactly. Could have been a situation where a long-time customer called Steve and said "find me a nice Batman #1 8.0 and I'll gladly pay 100K."

[Bullet123]

I have. I will be having a chat with Steve but he unfortunately is not the only dealer guilty of this but he happens to be the one in the crosshairs at the moment. As a salesman myself, I just do not understand those who claim to make a living from this hobby and the way they go about theie business. These are the facts

I buy high grade CGC slabs

I pay above guide for said CGC slabs

I am not afraid to set a GPA record for said CGC slabs if the book warrants it

I have done business with Steve and other dealers in the past.

It is no secret what I collect (my registry sets spell it all out)

 

I will do a deal with a dealer for several thousands of $$

 

Three weeks later I see another similar book that is within my collecting parameters advertised on their website without so much as a heads up that I might care. Its not like I collect High grade Marvels like ASM where everyone is clamoring for them. I collect some of the least collected (at least in high grade) names out there.

 

I would love to hear from other collectors out there if they have the same experience as I do. I am not interested in specific dealers names, just if they have had similar experiences.

 

Bob, unfortunately this is an oft-repeated story. Usually the only time you'll hear from dealers is if they have some inventory they're desperate to move. If it's a book they know lots of people want? Don't hold your breath!

 

Tim,

 

I just do not get it. I do not collect Centaurs at all but just from reading these forums if I came across one I would know at least a few people to offer it up to first. I am not saying dealers should know who I am if I have never done business with them before, but I am talking about people whom I have spent thousands of $$ with who could not pick me out of a lineup of 2 a week after the transaction.

[tth2]

If they were good businessmen, they wouldn`t be comic book dealers.