Flash105 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So any speculation on what the 8.0 Savannah will bring? Can it crack 20K? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Easily...so make a strong bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 So you think dealer stock is that low on the book? And that many collectors are willing to sell? Does anybody lock books away anymore? What is the average hold time on high grade books in general? So your opinon is this book has to have another big price run to see a big increase in supply like we saw in 2009. I think that there will be a bunch of copies on the market in a couple of months again, but the big spike in 2009 also forced a lot of fence sitters (including me) to finally get a copy of SC #22 that will sit in collections for a long time now. It seems like that is the pattern with SA DC collectors - they buy a copy to keep for the long run. WRT high grade books, the best known copy of SC #22 to date (Clink 9.0) is locked up tight. I think that SC #22 is so hard to find in 8.0+ that if you can afford to hold it you will. That being said, over the next decade I expect a number of new HG GA and SA collections to hit the market as long time collectors or their heirs cash out. While these boards are a good representation of the active collector set, there are a lot of old timers with collections amassed in the 50s, 60s and 70s that have yet to resurface. I am hoping the next decade will see some forgotten gems come to market - even if I can't afford them, I can appreciate them. (thumbs u I'm waiting for you to pop-out a 6.0+ out of the blue for the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john72tex Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have no intention of selling my 5.0 unless I obtain a better copy at an affordable price. I don't think that will happen unless I find a time machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Loves Gwen Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Here's a question for you. Let's say there are 1000 copies of SC 22 for illustration sake. How many are in collectors hands? How many are in dealers hands? How many are for sale at the right price? How many are not for sale at any price? How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? It seemed like when AF15 went on a run that there was 7.5-8.5 for sale all the time. Now prices have stablized and they went back in hiding. Has the same happened to SC22? Is that the reason you don't see SC4 come up that often 6.0+ or is it really that tough of a book. This had me thinking. I'll make a fun and speculated guess. How many are in collectors hands? I would image there would be 800-1000 How many are in dealers hands? This is a sizzling book for dealers to flip 10-20 copies. How many are for sale at the right price? 700-900 copies How many are not for sale at any price? less than <5 How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? 3/4 of AF15's price. Let's do a fun blue label ratio test: 5.0+ Showcase 4 37.12% Showcase 22 29.10% Showcase 22 is more scarce in 5.0+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 6.0+ Showcase 4 5.07% Showcase 22 6.09% Showcase 4 is more scarce in 6.0+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.5+ Showcase 4 12.12 % Showcase 22 5.06% Showcase 22 is more scarce in 7.5+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the ratio test SC22 is more scarce in 5.0+ SC4 is more scarce in 6.0+ SC22 is more scarce in 7.5+ Here's a more concise way to put that: SC22 is more scarce in 5.0-5.5 SC4 is more scarce from 6.0 to 7.0 SC22 is more scarce in 7.5+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I have no intention of selling my 5.0 unless I obtain a better copy at an affordable price. I don't think that will happen unless I find a time machine. Not to mention it goes well with that awesome GL collection of yours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Here's a question for you. Let's say there are 1000 copies of SC 22 for illustration sake. How many are in collectors hands? How many are in dealers hands? How many are for sale at the right price? How many are not for sale at any price? How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? It seemed like when AF15 went on a run that there was 7.5-8.5 for sale all the time. Now prices have stablized and they went back in hiding. Has the same happened to SC22? Is that the reason you don't see SC4 come up that often 6.0+ or is it really that tough of a book. This had me thinking. I'll make a fun and speculated guess. How many are in collectors hands? I would image there would be 800-1000 How many are in dealers hands? This is a sizzling book for dealers to flip 10-20 copies. How many are for sale at the right price? 700-900 copies How many are not for sale at any price? less than <5 How much does the book have to escalate in value to get more to shake free? 3/4 of AF15's price. Let's do a fun blue label ratio test: 5.0+ Showcase 4 37.12% Showcase 22 29.10% Showcase 22 is more scarce in 5.0+ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 6.0+ Showcase 4 5.07% Showcase 22 6.09% Showcase 4 is more scarce in 6.0+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 7.5+ Showcase 4 12.12 % Showcase 22 5.06% Showcase 22 is more scarce in 7.5+ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- From the ratio test SC22 is more scarce in 5.0+ SC4 is more scarce in 6.0+ SC22 is more scarce in 7.5+ Here's a more concise way to put that: SC22 is more scarce in 5.0-5.5 SC4 is more scarce from 6.0 to 7.0 SC22 is more scarce in 7.5+ Wow, didn't think of that. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimik Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 I'm waiting for you to pop-out a 6.0+ out of the blue for the club. Right now I would only buy one if I could find it raw and for OSPG. Looking at the $$$ a 6.0+ would set me back, I would rather put that toward a pre-Robin Tec with a Batman cover or an Action under #20 with a Supes cover. (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hepcat Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 It seems like that is the pattern with SA DC collectors - they buy a copy to keep for the long run. That's me! I can't understand the fellows who say they're "collectors" but behave differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 26, 2011 Share Posted January 26, 2011 I'm waiting for you to pop-out a 6.0+ out of the blue for the club. Right now I would only buy one if I could find it raw and for OSPG. Looking at the $$$ a 6.0+ would set me back, I would rather put that toward a pre-Robin Tec with a Batman cover or an Action under #20 with a Supes cover. (thumbs u Never say never. I agree, those pre-Robin Tec and early Sup covers are really cool and nostalgic to collect. I did recall sometime last year on Ebay, there was a raw SC22 which look 6.0 that went for over $4K. I wonder if that copy ever got graded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeddieMercede Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 The Light Tan Showcase 24 9.0 is in the Feb Clink Auction. Wonder if there is a profit to be made off of this book. Surprised it didn't get resubbed for a PQ check. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B%26x%3D9%26y%3D12%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_876703&id=876703 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paperheart Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 The Light Tan Showcase 24 9.0 is in the Feb Clink Auction. Wonder if there is a profit to be made off of this book. Surprised it didn't get resubbed for a PQ check. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B%26x%3D9%26y%3D12%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_876703&id=876703 yes, by the boardie who snatched it off ebay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) The Light Tan Showcase 24 9.0 is in the Feb Clink Auction. Wonder if there is a profit to be made off of this book. Surprised it didn't get resubbed for a PQ check. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B%26x%3D9%26y%3D12%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_876703&id=876703 yes, by the boardie who snatched it off ebay Nice scan now and I wonder if the second buyer had second thoughts. Edited January 27, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noble Nostalgia aka Nikelspot Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 (edited) Here is a front and a back scan of the SC 22 CGC 6.0 Cr/OW. Please bare with my scanner. I will try to figure a better configuration. I think this one looks better than the one on Clink, and the page quality is slightly better too. Those marks on the left side of the scans are from my scanner, not the book. Edited January 27, 2011 by Nikelspot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boba Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 Slabs always give my scanner a problem. The plastic reflects back the scanner the lights. It looks a lot nicer than the photos in the listing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Slabs always give my scanner a problem. The plastic reflects back the scanner the lights. It looks a lot nicer than the photos in the listing! The Ebay SC22 6.0 listing photos is crappy! Edited January 28, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Here is a front and a back scan of the SC 22 CGC 6.0 Cr/OW. Please bare with my scanner. I will try to figure a better configuration. I think this one looks better than the one on Clink, and the page quality is slightly better too. Those marks on the left side of the scans are from my scanner, not the book. I like the shot you took of your SC22 for the club better than the scan. If you can make a better scan, the club can compare the two much better. Your copy does look better. The CL copy has tanning and lt/crm PQ which hurt that copy. Edited January 28, 2011 by showcase22gr1959 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masamune69 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 Here is a front and a back scan of the SC 22 CGC 6.0 Cr/OW. Please bare with my scanner. I will try to figure a better configuration. I think this one looks better than the one on Clink, and the page quality is slightly better too. Those marks on the left side of the scans are from my scanner, not the book. I like the shot you took of your SC22 for the club better than the scan. If you can make a better scan, the club can compare the two much better. Your copy does look better. The CL copy has tanning and lt/crm PQ which hurt that copy. It looks really nice. I guess it went down cause of the crease in the right corner (is it a crease? It looks like one). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masamune69 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The Light Tan Showcase 24 9.0 is in the Feb Clink Auction. Wonder if there is a profit to be made off of this book. Surprised it didn't get resubbed for a PQ check. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B%26x%3D9%26y%3D12%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_876703&id=876703 yes, by the boardie who snatched it off ebay Nice scan now and I wonder if the second buyer had second thoughts. I am pretty sure, it's gonna go for more than 2500$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase22gr1959 Posted January 28, 2011 Share Posted January 28, 2011 The Light Tan Showcase 24 9.0 is in the Feb Clink Auction. Wonder if there is a profit to be made off of this book. Surprised it didn't get resubbed for a PQ check. http://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fsearch.asp%3FFocusedOnly%3D1%26where%3Dauctions%26title%3Dshowcase%2B%26x%3D9%26y%3D12%26ItemType%3DCB%23Item_876703&id=876703 yes, by the boardie who snatched it off ebay Nice scan now and I wonder if the second buyer had second thoughts. I am pretty sure, it's gonna go for more than 2500$ For sure...but let's see if it breaks $6K for the seller to break even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
