The OFFICIAL $100,000+ Auction & Sales Thread

[Hedge Collector]

and don't forget that many of these "big" sales happen privately... I probaby know of or been involved in a dozen more 100,000 to 200,000 sales that have actually taken place, but that never make any lists, for a myriad of reasons (thumbs u

 

No doubt. As open as some people are about these things there are plenty of people who don't want this info made public (at least when it pertains to books they're involved in). I've heard from a few of them over the years I mean, I'm glad to have "secret" info over not having the info at all (it helps me understand the market a little better,) but I'd rather be able to share it.

 

Hi Rob, what are the reasons besides privacy to have this info kept quiet?

[G.A.tor]

and don't forget that many of these "big" sales happen privately... I probaby know of or been involved in a dozen more 100,000 to 200,000 sales that have actually taken place, but that never make any lists, for a myriad of reasons (thumbs u

 

No doubt. As open as some people are about these things there are plenty of people who don't want this info made public (at least when it pertains to books they're involved in). I've heard from a few of them over the years I mean, I'm glad to have "secret" info over not having the info at all (it helps me understand the market a little better,) but I'd rather be able to share it.

 

Hi Rob, what are the reasons besides privacy to have this info kept quiet?

I have provided a few to Rob, but sometimes folks want these transactions kept "private"...could be for personal reasons, could be for security reasons, could be for monetary implication reasons, etc, etc...

[rob_react]

and don't forget that many of these "big" sales happen privately... I probaby know of or been involved in a dozen more 100,000 to 200,000 sales that have actually taken place, but that never make any lists, for a myriad of reasons (thumbs u

 

No doubt. As open as some people are about these things there are plenty of people who don't want this info made public (at least when it pertains to books they're involved in). I've heard from a few of them over the years I mean, I'm glad to have "secret" info over not having the info at all (it helps me understand the market a little better,) but I'd rather be able to share it.

 

Hi Rob, what are the reasons besides privacy to have this info kept quiet?

 

From my end, if I'm asked to keep a transaction private, I do. Why would folks want these sales kept private? I have some ideas, but really, it's probably different in every case.

[VintageComics]

and don't forget that many of these "big" sales happen privately... I probaby know of or been involved in a dozen more 100,000 to 200,000 sales that have actually taken place, but that never make any lists, for a myriad of reasons (thumbs u

 

No doubt. As open as some people are about these things there are plenty of people who don't want this info made public (at least when it pertains to books they're involved in). I've heard from a few of them over the years I mean, I'm glad to have "secret" info over not having the info at all (it helps me understand the market a little better,) but I'd rather be able to share it.

 

Hi Rob, what are the reasons besides privacy to have this info kept quiet?

 

From my end, if I'm asked to keep a transaction private, I do. Why would folks want these sales kept private? I have some ideas, but really, it's probably different in every case.

 

I would think that one of the reasons is that some of these collectors don't need or want to toot their own horns. They just want the books and not the attention.

[tth2]

didn't the 9.6 JLA 1 break 100 K ?

No

[tth2]

and don't forget that many of these "big" sales happen privately... I probaby know of or been involved in a dozen more 100,000 to 200,000 sales that have actually taken place, but that never make any lists, for a myriad of reasons (thumbs u

 

No doubt. As open as some people are about these things there are plenty of people who don't want this info made public (at least when it pertains to books they're involved in). I've heard from a few of them over the years I mean, I'm glad to have "secret" info over not having the info at all (it helps me understand the market a little better,) but I'd rather be able to share it.

I recently traded my $100,000 Spawn #1 for a $50,000 X-Force #1, a $49,999 Wildcats #1 and $1 in cash in a private deal. Does that make the list?

[rob_react]

and don't forget that many of these "big" sales happen privately... I probaby know of or been involved in a dozen more 100,000 to 200,000 sales that have actually taken place, but that never make any lists, for a myriad of reasons (thumbs u

 

No doubt. As open as some people are about these things there are plenty of people who don't want this info made public (at least when it pertains to books they're involved in). I've heard from a few of them over the years I mean, I'm glad to have "secret" info over not having the info at all (it helps me understand the market a little better,) but I'd rather be able to share it.

I recently traded my $100,000 Spawn #1 for a $50,000 X-Force #1, a $49,999 Wildcats #1 and $1 in cash in a private deal. Does that make the list?

 

Done.

 

 

Seriously? If one of those books was worthy, I'd include the whole narrative. I do that with the Church Tec #1

 

OS 27 reported $150,000 trade. To be honest, I’m only now including it for completeness’ sake. First off, it’s “trade” which you have to take with a grain of salt anyway. Secondly, if it’s really VG/FN, then is it really a $100,000 book right now, no matter the pedigree?

[tth2]

Yup, that`s why only private deals reported by highly reliable sources can be trusted, and even then, I would just about exclude any deal involving trade.

[rob_react]

Yup, that`s why only private deals reported by highly reliable sources can be trusted, and even then, I would just about exclude any deal involving trade.

 

I do, for the most part, ignore trades. I usually just list them in the notes column, as it's still a data point.

 

Private deals, it depends on who the information comes from and the scale of the deal, but I'll sometimes hold out publishing it until I get a second source. Even then I don't always trust them, but there's only so much I can do. I'm not going to ask for canceled checks.

[buttock]

didn't the 9.6 JLA 1 break 100 K ?

No

 

It didn't break $100K through pedigree, but what did Doug pay for it? I just heard the story from the seller and for the life of me can't remember what he said he got for the 1, 2, &3. It might have been $100K for all three, but maybe more?

[tth2]

didn't the 9.6 JLA 1 break 100 K ?

No

 

It didn't break $100K through pedigree, but what did Doug pay for it? I just heard the story from the seller and for the life of me can't remember what he said he got for the 1, 2, &3. It might have been $100K for all three, but maybe more?

When did you get so interested in mere SA books?

 

It might have been around $100K for all 3.

[Superman2006]

Here is a look at some of the => 100K sales that I've tracked over the years.

 

Why do so many of the books seems to have the same selling price? Seems a little odd.

 

4 of the books each sold for $126,500

 

2 of the books each sold for $120,750

 

3 of the books each sold for $116,512.50 (I think 1 of these Action #1's is actually just a duplicate entry)

 

2 of the books each sold for $107,550

 

 

I think this should explain what you're seeing:

 

$126,500 = $110,000 + 15% Buyers Premium

$120,750 = $105,000 + 15% Buyers Premium

$116,512.50 = $97,500 + 19.5% Buyers Premium

$107,550 = $90,000 + 19.5% Buyers Premium

 

When bidding reaches high levels like those above, the bid increments on Heritage increase to fairly large amounts (probably like $2,500, $5,000, or $10,000, depending on how high the bidding is at, although I believe bidders have the chance to cut the increment in half, once per book), so it's not too surprising to see the sales above scattered between $90,000 to $110,000 plus buyers premium...

[slym2none]

Is it fair to put the buyer's premium in with the sale price? The seller doesn't see any of that...

 

I know, I know - six of one, half-dozen of the other.....

 

 

-slym

[tth2]

Is it fair to put the buyer's premium in with the sale price? The seller doesn't see any of that...

 

I know, I know - six of one, half-dozen of the other.....

 

 

-slym

Yes, because that reflects the total price that a buyer was willing to pay for the book.

[Domo Arigato]

I think this should explain what you're seeing:

 

$126,500 = $110,000 + 15% Buyers Premium

$120,750 = $105,000 + 15% Buyers Premium

$116,512.50 = $97,500 + 19.5% Buyers Premium

$107,550 = $90,000 + 19.5% Buyers Premium

 

When bidding reaches high levels like those above, the bid increments on Heritage increase to fairly large amounts (probably like $2,500, $5,000, or $10,000, depending on how high the bidding is at, although I believe bidders have the chance to cut the increment in half, once per book), so it's not too surprising to see the sales above scattered between $90,000 to $110,000 plus buyers premium...

That makes sense. Thanks, Superman (I wonder if this is how Jimmy Olsen felt every time he said that).

[rob_react]

Is it fair to put the buyer's premium in with the sale price? The seller doesn't see any of that...

 

I know, I know - six of one, half-dozen of the other.....

 

 

-slym

Yes, because that reflects the total price that a buyer was willing to pay for the book.

 

Buyer's premium is part of the price.

[G.A.tor]

Is it fair to put the buyer's premium in with the sale price? The seller doesn't see any of that...

 

I know, I know - six of one, half-dozen of the other.....

 

 

-slym

Yes, because that reflects the total price that a buyer was willing to pay for the book.

 

Buyer's premium is part of the price.

agreed...it is not 6 one way, and half dozen the other, it is all 12 one way... the BP is part of the price, just removed from what the consignor gets paid, but doesn't affect the fact "that" is what the book sold for

[Hedge Collector]

Just for the record, couldve wouldve shouldve been $100k books, but the interest is just not there for now.

 

MF 52 fell short of reserve with only $85k, and is relisted for sale at $150k.

 

Sensation 1 fell short of reserve with only $80k, and is relisted for sale at $130k.

 

Cap 1 sold for $85k.

 

 

[tth2]

Just for the record, couldve wouldve shouldve been $100k books, but the interest is just not there for now.

 

MF 52 fell short of reserve with only $85k, and is relisted for sale at $150k.

 

Sensation 1 fell short of reserve with only $80k, and is relisted for sale at $130k.

 

Cap 1 sold for $85k.

 

For all the myth about GA being for "real" collectors, the reality is that quite a few big ticket GA books get put up for sale regularly and trade hands like a hot potato, destroying their mystique and value. The MF 52 is a classic example. When it first came up on Heritage, it generated a lot of buzz. Multiple sales later, the reaction is "oh, it`s that book again."

 

I must admit to being surprised at the Cap 1 price.

[gpanalysis]

here's our list:

 

$317,200 Action Comics (1938) #1 CGC 6.0

$273,125 Flash Comics (1940-1949) #1 CGC 9.6 Edgar Church (Mile High)

$255,000 Detective Comics (1937) #27 CGC 7.0

$205,000 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 9.0 Pay Copy

$201,250 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 9.0 Pay Copy

$195,000 Action Comics (1938) #1 CGC 4.0

$179,250 Showcase (1956-1978) #4 CGC 9.6

$172,500 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 8.5 Denver pedigree

$170,000 Detective Comics (1937) #27 CGC 6.0

$161,000 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 9.0

$160,200 Showcase (1956-1978) #4 CGC 9.4

$155,350 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 8.5 Denver pedigree

$150,000 Amazing Fantasy (1962-1996) #15 CGC 9.4 White Mountain

$143,400 Action Comics (1938) #7 CGC 8.0

$130,000 Superman (1939-1986) #1 CGC 5.5

$126,500 Amazing Fantasy (1962-1996) #15 CGC 9.4 White Mountain

$126,500 Detective Comics (1937) #38 CGC 9.4 Allentown pedigree

$126,500 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 8.5

$126,500 All-Star Comics (1940-1978) #3 CGC 9.6 Edgar Church (Mile High)

$121,000 Action Comics (1938) #1 CGC 2.5

$120,750 Action Comics (1938) #1 CGC 5.5

$120,750 Detective Comics (1937) #38 CGC 9.4 Allentown pedigree

$119,500 More Fun Comics (1936-1947) #52 CGC 9.2 Larson pedigree

$118,977 Amazing Fantasy (1962-1996) #15 CGC 8.5

$116,513 Walt Disney's Comics and Stories (1940) #1 CGC 9.4

$116,513 Action Comics (1938) #1 CGC 8.5 (MP)

$111,328 Fantastic Four (1961) #1 CGC 9.4

$110,100 Amazing Spider-Man, The (1963) #1 CGC 9.6

$110,000 Amazing Spider-Man, The (1963) #1 CGC 9.6 White Mountain

$107,550 Marvel Mystery Comics (1939-1949) #9 CGC 9.4

$107,550 Detective Comics (1937) #38 CGC 9.4 Allentown pedigree

$107,000 Batman (1940) #1 CGC 8.5 Kansas City pedigree

$104,200 Amazing Spider-Man, The (1963) #1 CGC 9.4

$101,575 Marvel Comics (1939) #1 CGC 8.0 Larson pedigree

$100,500 X-Men, The (1963-1981) #1 CGC 9.6 Pacific Coast

$100,000 Detective Comics (1937) #27 CGC 7.5 (SP)

$100,000 Batman (1940) #1 CGC 8.0

$100,000 X-Men, The (1963-1981) #1 CGC 9.6 Pacific Coast