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Ok....who bought it !!?

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comix4fun

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Truly a great cover and a terrific #1 to own !

 

http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=545539&GSub=85233

 

 

Wasn't me... :grin:

 

I can think of only one reason it wouldn't be you. And that would be your going for something bigger and better (worship)

 

 

:devil: and hm

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I know competition must have been fierce on this one, and I heard where the bidding was going. I didn't read the series (I know, my loss), so the winner certainlyl wasn't me.

 

Plus, I'm more a fan of his KJ/Batman/Joker work. That being said, his art on Dredd was amazing from what I've seen.

 

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I know competition must have been fierce on this one, and I heard where the bidding was going. I didn't read the series (I know, my loss), so the winner certainlyl wasn't me.

 

Plus, I'm more a fan of his KJ/Batman/Joker work. That being said, his art on Dredd was amazing from what I've seen.

 

Accepted wisdom up to now has been that Killing Joke prices rules the roost but let's just say that Brian's Dredd work is now receiving some Serious love and attention. Kudos to the high bidder, a man of impeccable taste. (thumbs u

 

I've always thought his Dredd work was under appreciated compared to his "mainstream" work so we may be seeing some overdue catching up.

 

 

 

 

 

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There is little doubt that his KJ and WW pieces are far more desirable to collectors. The detail and craftmanship on those (and Camelot 3000) is simply breathtaking. I am guessing here, but that's probably because he switched to inking with a brush after Judge Dredd. hm I think several things probably contributed to this selling at an aggressive price. First, the lack of Bolland art available and secondly, as everyone knows, the historical aspect..... (worship)

 

As a side note, I foolishly sold my Bolland GL cover a couple of years ago because of some personal life changes. The dust has settled and I have regretted it every single day.. :cry:..I haven't been able to replace the Bolland with a piece that I find equal in terms of eye appeal and desirability.. :pullhair:..at least to me....and with prices escalating the way they have, I doubt I'll be able to afford one anytime soon..... (shrug)

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There is little doubt that his KJ and WW pieces are far more desirable to collectors. The detail and craftmanship on those (and Camelot 3000) is simply breathtaking. I am guessing here, but that's probably because he switched to inking with a brush after Judge Dredd. hm I think several things probably contributed to this selling at an aggressive price. First, the lack of Bolland art available and secondly, as everyone knows, the historical aspect..... (worship)

 

As a side note, I foolishly sold my Bolland GL cover a couple of years ago because of some personal life changes. The dust has settled and I have regretted it every single day.. :cry:..I haven't been able to replace the Bolland with a piece that I find equal in terms of eye appeal and desirability.. :pullhair:..at least to me....and with prices escalating the way they have, I doubt I'll be able to afford one anytime soon..... (shrug)

 

 

 

I don't think it's the brush as much as it's the characters. (especially since he didn't ink the interiors to C3K) Given the hobby that we are in Brian could draw the worlds greatest drawing of Goats and it would probably not sell for as much as a standard Joker or Batman piece.

 

The Dredd artwork is as strong as any KJ or WW piece out there. I have held these in my hands and there is no mistaking their perfection. It's just long overdue appreciation I think. Any fan of his work that takes the time to pick up the titan trades of Judge Child or Dark Judges stories won't come away thinking they have seen anything less than his best work.

 

As for the Green Lantern cover, I feel your pain. I had one of those covers and sold it off years ago to finance something else.

 

If you feel really bad, I have this hanging on my wall, you could always try to overwhelm me. :insane:

 

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Don't want to open a can of worms here, but my suspicion is Dredd prices are spiking right now, but I don't see this sector of his art increasing further over time. The fanbase is just not there in the same absolute numbers. As a second (or third) tier character, I suspect the demand will decrease over time, especially as those collectors who remember the series start to dwindle in numbers.

 

Does anyone seriously doubt that KJ will have more staying power and room for growth than Dredd? One of them is still in publication after 20 years :baiting:

 

I agree, Joseph, that Bolland's non-KJ art was serioulsy undervalued for a very long time. That's a testament to just how uniquely strong KJ was all-around, including the era it was produced, the art, the storytelling, the height of Batman and Moore's fandom craze, and the everlasting power of the Joker persona. Not to mention the continuity issues with the Oracle, Batgirl and Joker, whether or not this "origin" is in fact a true origin or hypothetical situation/reality.

 

Bolland is a tremendous artist, the artist's artist for lack of a better term, whose time has finally come.

 

Hari

 

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There is little doubt that his KJ and WW pieces are far more desirable to collectors. The detail and craftmanship on those (and Camelot 3000) is simply breathtaking. I am guessing here, but that's probably because he switched to inking with a brush after Judge Dredd. hm I think several things probably contributed to this selling at an aggressive price. First, the lack of Bolland art available and secondly, as everyone knows, the historical aspect..... (worship)

 

As a side note, I foolishly sold my Bolland GL cover a couple of years ago because of some personal life changes. The dust has settled and I have regretted it every single day.. :cry:..I haven't been able to replace the Bolland with a piece that I find equal in terms of eye appeal and desirability.. :pullhair:..at least to me....and with prices escalating the way they have, I doubt I'll be able to afford one anytime soon..... (shrug)

 

 

 

I don't think it's the brush as much as it's the characters. (especially since he didn't ink the interiors to C3K) Given the hobby that we are in Brian could draw the worlds greatest drawing of Goats and it would probably not sell for as much as a standard Joker or Batman piece.

 

The Dredd artwork is as strong as any KJ or WW piece out there. I have held these in my hands and there is no mistaking their perfection. It's just long overdue appreciation I think. Any fan of his work that takes the time to pick up the titan trades of Judge Child or Dark Judges stories won't come away thinking they have seen anything less than his best work.

 

As for the Green Lantern cover, I feel your pain. I had one of those covers and sold it off years ago to finance something else.

 

If you feel really bad, I have this hanging on my wall, you could always try to overwhelm me. :insane:

 

Bolland_GLCorps.jpg

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You know Chris, I had a chance to your GL cover twice...Once when you had it, then again when my buddy had it....Now it's locked in with my GL cover to another deep pocketed lawyer :baiting:

 

If you feel really bad, I have this hanging on my wall - Nothing like kicking a man when he's down Judas....... :jokealert:

 

Overwhelm you ?!....You mean like promise to mow your lawn from now till infinity.....and beyond !......No small feat, considering you're in Chicago and I am in Beantown !

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I'm surprised you feel that way about the dredd work hari... but as you said you didn't read it so I guess that's natural. I think those that did read those books have the highest opinion of it. I personally would struggle to think of a Bolland cover I like more than Dredd 1 - I like it better than the KJ cover in fact (kinda boring really) although of course its less valuable).

 

It may be kind of a cult series, I guess, but its a spooning well loved series that's fondly remembered and an "arresting" image...

 

 

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I'm surprised you feel that way about the dredd work hari... but as you said you didn't read it so I guess that's natural. I think those that did read those books have the highest opinion of it. I personally would struggle to think of a Bolland cover I like more than Dredd 1 - I like it better than the KJ cover in fact (kinda boring really) although of course its less valuable).

 

It may be kind of a cult series, I guess, but its a spooning well loved series that's fondly remembered and an "arresting" image...

 

 

To be clear, I'm speaking purely objectively, not subjectively, since I have NOT read the series. I do have it on my list of "must read" series, though. And, from an artistic standpoint, the art is as good or better than anything else I've seen him do. Just wanted to clarify these points.

 

Hari

 

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I certainly wouldn't be interested in this Judge Dredd cover...

 

 

Not everyone likes the same thing, that's the beauty of our hobby and of art appreciation in general.

 

You might not like what I like, and I might not like what you like. (what do you like btw?)

 

To me, this Judge Dredd cover is one of the most memorable covers of the last couple of decades. It helped to introduce a character that has been a staple of British comics for about 40 years to American audiences.

 

It's hard to find an artist with more technical skill than Bolland, and this cover clearly and concisely captures the essence of the character and draws the reader in for a closer look. To collectors in the UK they may love Dredd more than Spider-man and if you read these stories, look at this art, and realize the history the character enjoys you might understand their point of view.

 

After reading the Judge Death/Dark Judges Saga I realized immediately I was reading one of the best comic stories ever. So the demand for this artwork doesn't shock me in the least. If more American readers took the time to read the stories and take in the lovely artwork they might realize that as well.

 

Best,

Chris

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Love the Judge.

 

Love this cover.

 

What's interesting is that this #1 cover, the highest price ever achieved for a Bolland JD piece, is from a reprint, not from the original run.

 

Which just speaks to the fact that Bolland's best cover work for this character was under the Eagle imprint.

 

Whether these values are sustainable is another issue...there's just no question that this art is amazing.

 

For Hari and those who haven't read the classic JD stories, I thoroughly recommend the recent telephone-book reprints from the UK.

 

Here's a recent ode to Dredd by Garth Ennis:

 

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2009/08/24/garth-ennis-when-2000ad-was-the-future/

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Does anyone seriously doubt that KJ will have more staying power and room for growth than Dredd? One of them is still in publication after 20 years :baiting:

 

 

Hari

 

Hari,

You need to take the time to read those books my man. This is a wee bit off.

 

Oh No...I feel a rantrant coming on.

 

 

Do realize that Dredd stories are still being published in the UK and have been for the last 32 consecutive years?

 

Do you realize that Dredd stories have been constantly in print in the US over the last 26 years?

 

Do you realize that Dredd has appeared in nearly 2000 issues since his 1st appearance?

 

Killing Joke is a wonderful one shot story. But it was out of print for most of the last 20 years until they released the anniversary hardcover. Being in print in 1988-1990 and then out of print until 2008 doesn't mean it's "still in publication". "Back in publication" yes.

 

Not only is Dredd one of the most enduring characters of British comics, he's spent more time in publication in America than KJ. Beginning in 1983 Dredd stories began running in the US and stayed in publication until the late 1990's. At the same time the TPB's of all the great stories have continued to go back to the presses over and over and over again which has kept Dredd "still in publication" in the US for the last 25 years without a break .

 

As well Dredd has now been optioned to an American comic book publisher to begin printing new stories with new covers by Bolland and others. A new Judge Dredd film is in production along with another video game built around the Dredd universe.

 

Judge Dredd isn't just another character, an entire comics universe was built around this character. It's a universe that still lives and breathes today and has been for over 30 years non-stop. With the amount of love, fandom, and success the universe and the character has enjoyed in his 32 year unbroken streak I doubt he is going to fade away anytime soon. He's a fricken Icon to millions upon millions of fans.

 

The KJ one shot is great, iconic, wonderful. So are these early Dredd stories. I think there is room for both to exist in the world. Especially since one of them has proven to be consistently successful for over 3 decades and been the subject of comic, novel, film, audio book, video game, toy and merchandising non stop over that period.

 

Just saying. Dismissing Dredd as something that isn't still around, isn't still influential, isn't still popular, and isn't iconic, is an error.

 

Best, :foryou:

 

Chris

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I stand corrected. I'm very American-centric, I admit. Your post explains more fully why these prices are being realized, so thank you for that.

 

I guess time will tell in terms of staying power, as these pieces (especially panel pages) may eventually hit the secondary market.

 

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